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Doctor Warns Brothers That The Use Of Marijuana Is Negatively Affecting Their Brains

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19 minutes ago, The Pharm said:

I don't quite understand 

Your spelling was flawed but, my point is, how can cannabis be accused of killing someone when they were on the edge due to meth or coke?  

 

It's like saying cause of death big dipper.

 

Despite the deceased being close to overdose on coke or meth.

 

Take a near fatal dose of cocaine and then go on the the most tempestuous ride at the fair.  What kills you?

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12 minutes ago, bartman said:


Who would qualify, in your professional opinion?

Those with epilepsy or multiple sclerosis. Or a patient receiving radiotherapy and is exhibiting chronic side effects. Or palliative treatment. Cannabis will only be prescribed as a last resort, after trying systemic drugs. 

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Just now, The Pharm said:

last resort


There you go again. Bless lol 

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I feel it is sad state of affairs that cannabis is the last resort...

 

or why we have to choose to be legally ill/dead or illegally well/alive....

 

wait for what some research which will show what we allready know? probably more of possitives if anything I would imagine

 

the results of traditional meds especially for epilepsy and pain are well know poisons,benzons and all the clasics,I work in mental health and I am surprised some of  my clients are alive just by looking at their MARS sheet

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1 minute ago, Phoenix said:

Take a near fatal dose of cocaine and then go on the the most tempestuous ride at the fair.  What kills you?


too much blue candy floss ?

 

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5 minutes ago, The Pharm said:

Those with epilepsy or multiple sclerosis. Or a patient receiving radiotherapy and is exhibiting chronic side effects. Or palliative treatment. Cannabis will only be prescribed as a last resort, after trying systemic drugs. 

And what about physical spinal injury?

Am I not an excellent example?

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@As you were folks, it's the fucking tax man again.  Hes also evading his own fucking tax.  Growing his own fucking money and being a general cunt.  

 

If I was a doctor I'd stick my neck out of the parapets.  But I'm not. Cannabis and the medical world is not united.

 

Money is the reason.

 

Id agree to differ but youd probably charge me for the consultation, refuse me cannabis and continue growing your own.

 

Whilst making a profit out of me and denying me medicine yet probably growing it for you hipster wife.

 

Sleep well Gavin

;)

@The Pharm

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5 minutes ago, Joolz said:


too much blue candy floss ?

 

Saddam's hair.

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36 minutes ago, The Pharm said:

People will claim anything to get their hands on those type of drugs, there are specific rules, I am not prepared to break them, also, patients typically require referral to specialists

Those types of drugs????

sorry, the post only mentioned cannabis.

You pathetic moron..... sorry for being angry.

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28 minutes ago, The Pharm said:

In some cases, depending upon the level of treatment they require, it depends on their capacity to tell me what they want, if they are critically unwell I must act in their best interests and if I have to use force to deliver emergency care I am required to do so. If its a case of having a steroid injection or something of the sort, typically a nurse of carer/parent can comfort the patient, in that situation I cannot use force. 

 

Indeed. I've found, though, in my limited experience (in patient care), when the the patient has capacity (it's not for us to define, is it? We are to presume they have it) they're often treated the same as everyone else. Given the differences in their cognition, this has at times... not enough care was taken to put the information in a way they can understand. Seems dodgy ground that, in terms of consent to treatment. I'm not suggesting people are forced...but...I've seen docs present info in quite manipulative ways, guiding the patient to the 'right' choice. This to me, is counter to their right of autonomy. Even if it's a piss poor choice, those in social care cannot deny that choice.

 

Also, nurses saying 'sign this', and busying away.... Oh man. I know they're busy, but... wow. For someone that can't read/write, this is a shitshow.... that little under qualified me has to try and mitigate!

 

When they lose capacity (intubated and can't write/read for example, proper assessments done), the care gets much better. Quite epic in fact.

 

I suppose this is the feedback I often can't give :D

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12 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

Your spelling was flawed but, my point is, how can cannabis be accused of killing someone when they were on the edge due to meth or coke?  

 

It's like saying cause of death big dipper.

 

Despite the deceased being close to overdose on coke or meth.

 

Take a near fatal dose of cocaine and then go on the the most tempestuous ride at the fair.  What kills you?

no one is talking about fatal overdose by the way.just by simplly your heart being tired and other physicological issues cannabis can start the cardiac arrest

to think cannabis can never cause anything is childish,no you can't directly overdose.If you smoke 2g bag a week you are safe,I am talking mainly about these extracts which are really strong,try to eat 250mg edible or two and you are there in no time.Maybe we talking apples and pears here @Phoenix

 

I came up with the meth/coke idea as it is very common for people to end their time on uppers smoking weed....and if you up for too long and some racy sativa hits you and you already in fragile state of mind you will very likely experience psychosis like symptoms-not everyone but it is very common especially in places where you can go jail for having drugs on you even small qauntities the paranoia is 10x normal

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1 minute ago, joba said:

no one is talking about fatal overdose by the way.just by simplly your heart being tired and other physicological issues cannabis can start the cardiac arrest

to think cannabis can never cause anything is childish,no you can't directly overdose.If you smoke 2g bag a week you are safe,I am talking mainly about these extracts which are really strong,try to eat 250mg edible or two and you are there in no time.Maybe we talking apples and pears here @Phoenix

 

I came up with the meth/coke idea as it is very common for people to end their time on uppers smoking weed....and if you up for too long and some racy sativa hits you and you already in fragile state of mind you will very likely experience psychosis like symptoms-not everyone but it is very common especially in places where you can go jail for having drugs on you even small qauntities the paranoia is 10x normal

I'm genetically prone to sudden adult death syndrome.  Arythmias of the heart.

Sudden ones.  I dont do uppers but enjoy cannabis at my own calculated risk.  I also drink and smoke tobacco.  I'll give them up in reverse order.

I dont disagree @joba I was just relating to your post as it was common sense and individual risk/reward.

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7 minutes ago, joba said:

no one is talking about fatal overdose by the way.just by simplly your heart being tired and other physicological issues cannabis can start the cardiac arrest

to think cannabis can never cause anything is childish,no you can't directly overdose.If you smoke 2g bag a week you are safe,I am talking mainly about these extracts which are really strong,try to eat 250mg edible or two and you are there in no time.Maybe we talking apples and pears here @Phoenix

 

I came up with the meth/coke idea as it is very common for people to end their time on uppers smoking weed....and if you up for too long and some racy sativa hits you and you already in fragile state of mind you will very likely experience psychosis like symptoms-not everyone but it is very common especially in places where you can go jail for having drugs on you even small qauntities the paranoia is 10x normal

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear @joba I agree with you.

It's the grey area when someone is 99% drunk and walks onto a road.  Killed by a car?

Cause of death. Car.

Not really.  Alcohol is the cause.

 

Cannabis will always, so long as it's illegal, be the straw that broke the camals back.

 

But truly , it's the bales of money is the issue.

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in my opinion there is much more to it than just THC /CBD -is the other cannabidiols.For example indica like mazar kush is strong but comapre to lemon haze is different.THCV maybe for example,on sativas not hungry,active,but prone to anxiety very easily

indica on other hand and I have few which i like,I am like in xanax state of mind,hungry and can fall asleep anytime in 15min

 

the CBD in today's hybrids are minimal-0.1% ussually,some indicas have 1%

the oil I made from dinfem CBD+ tested 45% CBD,3%THC

 

as mentioned before i had the luxury of experimenting but not everyone can do so,there is more to it

 

 

@The Pharm

 

on Bedrocan webside there is a research which shows CBD increases THC levels in plasma 2 fold for example,that's why I try to make my oils 2;1 THC/cbd or 3:1

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11 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

Money is the reason.

 

You've hit the nail on the head there I reckon. It's profit that drives pharma not some jackanory about a sick sibling.

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