Hello my fellow stoners, how are we today? Good, im glad to hear it! Well im back with another diary. Dinafem Mark very kindly gave me some seeds to grow out earlier in the year (purps#1 and purps moby dick). Due to my own stupidity and a cheap shite EC pen, I ended up pulling them in a rage. I had a few seeds left which I planted, but also had to pull, due to a security scare, and the fact that my set up wasn't set up all that well. So I decided to do it properly, and start from scratch. First I built a big fuck off room to house my new prisoners/victims plants er plants. Because I had previously promised Mark I would do a diary, I felt that I had unfinished business with the mobys, so went out and spent my own cash on a replacement purple moby beans......I know...…..the extravagance, but needs must. While I was at that I also decided to run some of my old favourite Super lemon hazes (I will try not to include them in this diary, but ive got to show you something later on …...no …..not that.....some plants.) So to my set up. Room is approx. 2.4 metres wide by 4.2 m long, ceilings are 2.4 high For these I will be using my newly constructed RDWC system, built from 60 litre totes, 40mm returns and 22mm top spray bars Its all run from a hailea HX 8840, which, to be perfectly honest is a bit on the small side, but it was cheap. Ive supplemented this poxy pump with a hailea airpump, with 1 stone per pot. The air stones aren't really needed, but I thought it would get them going in early veg. Ive ordered a chiller, as the temps are too high in the rdwc, its getting delivered today. Mobys on the left, not so super lemons on the right, its chalk and cheese. for the super lemons they are in 4x mega bubblers (60litre) , with 2 stones per pot run off a hailea 60l/min pump Ive got 4x lumii digita 600w dimmable ballasts with adjustawing shades, run off a timer box. RVK 8 inch A1 intake, 2x 12 inch RVK outtakes, both controlled from variac controllers. one runs at a pre set 50%, the other ramps up and down according to temps. Humidifier and dehumidifier when needed 2 oscillating fans Ionic nutrients, bluelab truncheon and ph meter, ph down all the usual shit, you know. Anyway the seeds were cracked, all the dinafem stuff cracked and were transplanted in to root it cubes, and into the propo with a scoosh every morning and night to keep them alive. they were in here for a week,The Dinafem stuff got out of the cubes in a day and started to reach for the lights, great stuff. while I tried to get the greenhouse seeds super crap lemons to germ. I eventually managed to get 5 of them, out of a 10 pack of seeds , to crack. one went into the cube and refused to do anything, at all. They eventually broke the surface, by the time the Mobys were needing into the net pots. I held them back a week till the not so super lemons tried to catch up. I eventually decided to get them into the room, after trying it out for a day or two to check temps etc. Temps were too high with the lights at 600, so ive had to turn them down to 400 till my air cooled hoods arrive (and yes, I know air cooled hoods are generally crap, but needs must. At 400w the fans are sitting on idle, which is great for outside noise, and the way I want to keep it. SO they have now been in the room for 10 days, and ive just topped the mobys at 4 nodes, so they will probably take a few days to recover before going for it again.. So far they look great, apart from a little fan burn, and are very consistant in size and development. As for the Not so super lemons, well, have a look, they are all different sizes, with 2 underdeveloped runts, which I will give another week or so, and if they don't start growing properly, they will be seeing the compost bin. neeedless to say, I should have gone with the quick Kush instead of these bloody things, but hopefully 2 of them will provide some decent smoke. I wont be doing them again tho, im fairly sure of that, just look at them, they look pathetic compared to the mobys. Enough of my drivel, heres some pics, of the mobys, they look pretty much identical pheno wise, so far, which is nice. These are in flood and drain net pots, big 10 inch jobs, with a nice flat rim, so they wont topple when they get big, which should help. And the not so super lemons, looking all over the place. the 2nd and 3rd ones looks decidedly ill to me. oh well, too late to start more, i'll just put up with it. these are in 200mm nets so they are at least 1/3rd smaller than the mobys. Currently being fed at 0.5ec, ph is 5.7 Last week they were started at 0.4ec, ph 5.8. So let the journey begin...………………………... And the award for the longest opening post goes to...……..me.

helloha my fellow herbalists, I was just sitting here thinking about lighting set ups. If/ when I start again I was looking at doing less plants, but much bigger. Last time I did a biggie in hydro, it outgrew the tent, and I ended up using my lights vertically. These were 2 x 600s with adjustawings on their vertical axis, with the lamp holder at the bottom. What I did notice was the increase in yield, (26 odd ounce from one plant, 4/5 week veg-cant remember) with zero crappy wispy buds lower down the plant. So I was thinking about doing the same next time. so having say 4 trees with 4 x 600HPS on their sides, and turning the plants every few days I reckon id need 3 metres square floor area for this Obviously I would need more room, and I imagine the heat would be a bit higher (tho I don't remember this being the case when I did it last) I remember Heath Robinsons hydro grows were using verts on flip flop timers, and of course the Canadian tree surgeon Remo uses verts. Has anyone grown like this before, and what was your verdict? id probably do better with a scrog, but its not good on my poor knackered back