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Bee Keeping

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2 hours ago, borderboy said:

in a bird box it will msot likely be bumble bees not honey

and if it is honey bees they dont move out  theyre there for ever pretty much

 

very depressed to find out they are wasps

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I am shocked that no-one has shared this yet!

I have also always wondered, does any keep bees and see them buzzing around their grows? 

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34 minutes ago, LavenderPunk said:

 

I have also always wondered, does any keep bees and see them buzzing around their grows? 

 

 

Bee`s are not interested in plants that spread pollen by the wind mate

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On 8/27/2017 at 5:03 PM, ratdog said:

 

Bee`s are not interested in plants that spread pollen by the wind mate

 

Bees aren't interested in pollen at all its the nectar they want

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@NezA

 

Where did you hear that mate? bee larvae that are chosen to become future queens are fed royal jelly, royal jelly is secreted by female worker bees, it`s comprised of pollen and chemicals from the glands of worker bees

 

 

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@ratdog

 

"Honey bees collect pollen and nectar from a variety of flowering plants, including milkweed, dandelions, clover, goldenrod and a variety of fruit trees. Only workers forage for food, consuming as much nectar from each flower as they can. After foraging, worker honey bees return to the hive and pass the collected nectar to another worker. This worker holds the nectar on her tongue until the liquid evaporates, creating honey. The honey is then stored in a cell within the hive."

 

Indeed pollen does play a role but a limited one in general its nectar they're after

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1 minute ago, NezA said:

 

 

 

Indeed pollen does play a role but a limited one in general its nectar they're after

 

 

Yes mate, but you are missing the point of the first post, they do not collect pollen from wind blown plants like weed. They need it to be stationary, if a plant blows it on the wind it doesn`t need insects. 

 

The post is out of context if you take it alone, it was in response to someone thinking bees would be collecting pollen from weed plants, they don`t. 

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13 minutes ago, ratdog said:

 

 

Yes mate, but you are missing the point of the first post, they do not collect pollen from wind blown plants like weed. They need it to be stationary, if a plant blows it on the wind it doesn`t need insects. 

 

The post is out of context if you take it alone, it was in response to someone thinking bees would be collecting pollen from weed plants, they don`t. 

 

We're on the same page mate but the primary reason for the disinterest in cannabis is that cannabis does not produce nectar their primary food source. 

 

"The cannabis plant is mostly wind pollinated and therefore has not evolved to attract bees. It does not produce a smell that would attract bees, nor is it colorful and finally, and most importantly, it is unable to provide a reward in the form of floral nectar. As those familiar with Apis mellifera know, it is nectar and not pollen that is required by bees to make honey. But the male plant does provide pollen in some circumstances."

 

My point was cannabis produces pollen, males produce tons of it. If Bees were interested in pollen alone they would still be attracted as males get covered in the stuff regardless of the fact it gets spread by the wind plenty of it stays on the plant.

 

I personally think that cannabis has instead evolved to attract humans and we do the rest for them. 

 

I understand the point you were making though it's just you hadn't covered all perspectives the reasons are all linked though and we are saying the same thing.  

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1 minute ago, NezA said:

 

We're on the same page mate but the primary reason for the disinterest in cannabis is that cannabis does not produce nectar their primary food source. 

 

 

Yes, the same as grasses and other plants that let their pollen blow on the wind, most trees included, they would be wasting energy producing nectar. 

 

I was just saying that plants that "spread pollen by the wind" don`t attract insects for pollination, I could have gone into detail but my original post seemed to cover the issue. 

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@ratdog

 

I read it as though it was the pollen they were after lol and was thinking "I'm sure it's nectar they're after" 

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Great stuff here from Paul Stamets and team. I won't recreate the whole thing here, but for all you bee enthusiasts, well worth a read. Fomes is found somewhat abundantly throughout any remaining woodland in the UK, and sporadically on trees in built up areas. Reishi can be grown very easily on woodchips/debris. Stamets has theorised this for some time based on nis own observations, so this confirms the link between the loss of woodland habitat and the rise in bee viruses. Possibly the virus that near enough wiped out the native UK black bee, can be in ked to widescale deforestation at the time. Dunno, have to check the dates, just a thought.

 

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Extracts of Polypore Mushroom Mycelia Reduce Viruses in Honey Bees

Scientific Reportsvolume 8, Article number: 13936 (2018) | Download Citation

Abstract

Waves of highly infectious viruses sweeping through global honey bee populations have contributed to recent declines in honey bee health. Bees have been observed foraging on mushroom mycelium, suggesting that they may be deriving medicinal or nutritional value from fungi. Fungi are known to produce a wide array of chemicals with antimicrobial activity, including compounds active against bacteria, other fungi, or viruses. We tested extracts from the mycelium of multiple polypore fungal species known to have antiviral properties. Extracts from amadou (Fomes) and reishi (Ganoderma) fungi reduced the levels of honey bee deformed wing virus (DWV) and Lake Sinai virus (LSV) in a dose-dependent manner. In field trials, colonies fed Ganoderma resinaceum extract exhibited a 79-fold reduction in DWV and a 45,000-fold reduction in LSV compared to control colonies. These findings indicate honey bees may gain health benefits from fungi and their antimicrobial compounds.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-32194-8

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Well it's purely anecdotal and a manifestation of my imagination really, but the Isle of Wight disease that near enough wiped out the black bee from the UK did occur in the early 1900s, the point of maximum deforestation in the UK. It was only when the FC became a real thing during the war efforts, the the UK started to increase woodland cover. Good and all, but the trees and more specifically the planting regime and management don't, and have never really produced mushrooms of this sort. It's mature, multi aged mixed broadleaf i.e. native woodland that encourages these types of tree polypores. 

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