Butane Honey Oil

[Dr feelgood]

58 minutes ago, potato1356 said:

And The first of 9 Ken's kush (my #4 pheno - most sativa dominant, berries, woody, plum) - plucked and now being frozen ready for a live resin extraction!!!

she came out at 540g wet flower, grown in organic soil under basic HPS in a cold loft - she's done exceptionally well! 

 

 

Pictures of the results soon.....

We await with baited breath,

[catfish]

what kinda yield would you on average get from said amount?

 

i know there are too many variables. for a 100% accurate answer , but you must have an idea or something ?

 

or is it just so varied ? keep up the screen licking work .

[potato1356]

13 hours ago, catfish said:

this sounds like the start of a dodgy joke

who's joking?  

 

10 hours ago, catfish said:

what kinda yield would you on average get from said amount?

 

i know there are too many variables. for a 100% accurate answer , but you must have an idea or something ?

 

or is it just so varied ? keep up the screen licking work .

Now this is a huge topic of discussion, and something I've been investigating, but not prioritising myself - quality must come first, so most of my processes result in big drops in yield compared to the basic open blaster....

open blasting at room temp will give you the most (amount of shit extract you've ever seen hahaha)

open blasting frozen at past -40 will drop yield but improve quality. 

If you can pre-vac your tube and hold butane in it via valves you can soak - increases yield depending on duration and temperature. dropping temps to -100 will further de-wax the extract which would drop yield, and the longer the soak the more it de-waxes. 

then closed loop would be the next upgrade - nice increase in yield and purity.

Depending on what you do with your extract at the end also affects yield - purging too hard or too hot will reduce yield and rip lots off lovelies away, and diamonds are almost half the equivalent yield compared to shatter - just finished watching a series on advanced purge tech too - they showed many accidental ways to turn your shatter into wax - I'm amazed I've only fucked it up like that once!

So - just under 20 oz wet - roughly 4-5 ounces dry if I go with the 20-25% weight estimate - is that accurate?? anyone?

So from 4-5 oz I'd be aiming for 25-35g extract from prime dry flower. When I say prime - I mean crystal coated monster shit. 

But this aint dry flower - it's live resin. 

So roughly half of that. 

I'll be stoked with 15g, gutted with less than 10. 

The truth of the yield question - the material you run is EVERYTHING. If you run anything even remotely average on the trichome front, expect shit returns. The only 'average' strain I've done that gave an insane return was a white widow which yielded a perfect amber 29g sheet from 100g dry flower! Insane that one though. 

So basically - return rates from hydrocarbon extraction are as long as a piece of string 

Hope that helps? 

Peace oooottttttt X

[catfish]

cheers for the reply , i though as much the more you refine a product the less you get . although the quality goes through the roof.

 

so out of decent material 20-30% tops . it w would seem is the answer . so dismonds will be 15% at best or have i read that wrong?

 

im simply get myself up north. being a soft southerner i may have to wait till summer .

[potato1356]

2 hours ago, catfish said:

cheers for the reply , i though as much the more you refine a product the less you get . although the quality goes through the roof.

 

so out of decent material 20-30% tops . it w would seem is the answer . so dismonds will be 15% at best or have i read that wrong?

 

im simply get myself up north. being a soft southerner i may have to wait till summer .

Pretty much - but this is a VERY rough estimate - everything is dependant on the material quality. Go for uber frosty strains only as a rule. 

I'm changing the way I do this run - opting for a very loose packing method and closer to breadcrumb consistency post freeze. 

It'll be 3-4 tubes I reckon. 

I also deep froze my gas chamber and added 6 tins of distilled butane to the system - operating at full capacity - 12 tins or 3.6L solvent. 

Come north in summer next year sir, you're more than welcome, I'll take you to a few of our clubs  
 

[catfish]

i like your style brother. keep up the sterling work. very kind of you .

[potato1356]

Well today has been spent with a professional photographer/videographer shooting the rig and the process of making extract, so you guys have some incredible pictures coming up!

As well as this, we will be making a documentary capturing the evolution of cannabis culture as it stands right now in the UK - interviews with extract makers, growers, retailers, patients and experts in various fields - coverage of events and political action etc etc. 

I expect it to be between 25-45 minutes long, and we plan on touring and screening it in canna clubs around the uk within a year of this date  

 

[potato1356]

Et voila - Ken's kush #4 - 1 of 9 plants...

[potato1356]

As well as this, I decided to give up on this attempt at diamonds - My tech wasn't on point when I filled the mine, and the early stages were poorly handled in hindsight....

I chilled the mine to eliminate pressure and off gassing while taking it apart....



So I get a creme 10/10 live resin sauce anyway!



I'll be refilling the mine and trying again next week....

 

[potato1356]

Finally - the rig with new valve, ghetto bubblewrap sleeve for the tube (means 50% drop in ice loss so far - gonna try it with aluminium bubblewrap next) - nitrogen ready. 

Every part of the system is frozen in dry ice and isopropyl is added to the bottom container only. 
 

[vortex]

On 26/02/2009 at 11:08 AM, Danklord said:

I get what your saying, plastic was probably a stoopid idea. i was just trying to think of way to avoid the scraping process entirely. Maybe i'll give it a go with a non stick baking tray next time.

Thats a wicked idea for carrying BHO through customs tho B)

 

what about using that waxy baking paper stuff ... nothing should leach from it  and  its freezable ... when frozen you should be able to just peel the hardened oil from the paper ?

[potato1356]

I fired my photographer (me) and got a professional to document a live resin run - here are a couple of raw shots - everything needs tweaking and many more in the set, as well as a short film in the works. 

[Donkeybong]

Quick snap of some Tangie pollen run I did yesterday: 

 

 

Managed a decent return, 8.4g from a Z. I’ve done this run backwards to normal, usually we do room temp extraction and then winterise/refine the solution from there to get a few decent dabs and be left with lipid rich / less high inducing extract for caps (don’t dab that shit  ) this was run at around -30, as still got a bucket load of caps from the last few runs. 

[potato1356]

12 hours ago, Donkeybong said:

Quick snap of some Tangie pollen run I did yesterday: 

 

 

Managed a decent return, 8.4g from a Z. I’ve done this run backwards to normal, usually we do room temp extraction and then winterise/refine the solution from there to get a few decent dabs and be left with lipid rich / less high inducing extract for caps (don’t dab that shit  ) this was run at around -30, as still got a bucket load of caps from the last few runs. 

once you winterize your extract, how do you remove the iso???

Why winterize after extracting at room temp? aiming to pull all the waxes out then separate em and use for the caps normally? 

wouldn't this pull a shit tonne of undesirables in?

are you bho extracting pollen? 

sorry if any of this sounds critical in any way - not meant like that, simply intrigued 

[Donkeybong]

Hello @potato1356 normally we do extractions for caps, and decant off some of the good bits so the caps don’t get the Mrs too waved, so normally I run the column at room temps, blast that into a frozen container, then drop that in the freezer for 24 hours, decant about half the clear stuff for dabs then the rest gets left in the container, purged, decarbed, weighed, mixed up and capped. I use the term winterised loosely, because it’s kinda what we are doing but not in the normal way. 

 

It gives nice well rounded lipid rich caps, we used to do hash/pollen caps but the Mrs would have upto 8 of them in a day and sleep like a log, this way she has 2-4 and can be quite active but her minds mellowed, with dabs on hand if she needs to blast off. In an ideal world she’d be on RSO or summat, but we get what we can and work with it and she’d probably still want dabs anyway!! 

 

Regards to the “undesirables”, most of it is desirable in a cap for us, we run pollen to limit the green matter and room temp soaks don’t go beyond 5 mins with good stuff, which usually melts down instantly. 

 

Yes I am BHO extracting pollen, I think that covers everything. Seeing people do hash roisin made me think of it. 

 

I think I’m the only person that runs BHO looking for that dirty stuff everyone tries to steer well clear of so most people find it quite interesting. It works well for the Mrs and easy enough to do.