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just switched to coco and not going well


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13 minutes ago, MindSoup said:

only ever used one in NZ, so they might not be available here lol

Use them many times onsite for cladding RSJ,s with timber..dangerous tool if not used correctly..

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The nail gun and misuse of said item has to be in my top 5 horrific things I have witnessed on a building site. Apprentice joiner "pretending" to fire one at his pal on site. Except he DID activate the thing and a nail did go straight through his pal's kneecap. Put me right off my lunchtime sandwich that did.

The worst was seeing a fellow park fall from step ladders no more than 4-5 feet....landed on his elbow which didn't take it too well...bone sticking out the lot. The arm was gone within 24 hours and the building site looked like a scene from CSI....horrific stuff. 

One of the questions I was asked as a witness was "Was X wearing his hard hat and safety boots at the time"...To which I replied yes when i saw him he definitely had his safety gear on...like the HH and boots would have saved his fucking arm....Scumbags were already looking for a way out of paying the poor fucker compo. 

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21 minutes ago, Diddy said:

arm....Scumbags were already looking for a way out of paying the poor fucker compo. 

Always the fucking way mate lol.

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watered to run off this time and the ec of the run off was higher 2.2 than the feed going in 1.6.

 

should i lower the ec going in?

 

plants look happy

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@ratdog

 

Sounds like you've got a build up in the coco bud,

I would flush through with ph'd fresh warm water

then check run off again.

 

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48 minutes ago, ratdog said:

watered to run off this time and the ec of the run off was higher 2.2 than the feed going in 1.6.

 

should i lower the ec going in?

 

plants look happy

 

Just now, stu914 said:

@ratdog

 

Sounds like you've got a build up in the coco bud,

I would flush through with ph'd fresh warm water

then check run off again.

 

 

Do not flush them. Your first action when the run off EC is coming out higher than input is to add more irrigation events, as coco drys up the salt loses its vessel of water until the next irrigation event so the run off EC comes out higher. Add more irrigations, if the run off EC doesnt decrease, then lower your EC input - don't flush them unless its at the end of the cycle, you run the risk of washing away the buffer, so the next time you feed them the media starts drawing nutrients that would otherwise be going to the plant and it leads to tail chasing.

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Exactly what Mikey said, keep everything the same just increase the amount of times you're watering them, if run off EC doesn't go down (or not all the way back to input) thats when you can start reducing the input EC.

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Also make sure you're getting 10-20% runoff. When I find my EC creeping up it usually down to the plants drinking more and my automated fertigations not being long enough to get enough run off

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thanks guys, i wouldn't say they are really drinking more atm apart from maybe a couple of the bigger ones (this is the first time i've watered them thoroughly, and still not all of them, only the ones with the lighter pots) so i'll deal with them first and see what EC is, the rest are not far off i would imagine

 

 

:)

 

e2a, some more needed a good soak this morning, so things are going in the right direction, i've started adding cal mag, they just need it with this nutrient and new growth is look great.

 

need to crack on with the other grow room now, they are galloping along lol

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These coco threads always put me off trying coco, compost just seems so much easier lol

 

Good luck with the build ratty :v:

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Most o my issues are environmental usually too bloody cold which will fuck up coco soil or hydro tbh lol

Coco is generally fairly easy if yer environment is spot on 

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On 19/01/2024 at 17:33, ratdog said:

the stroppy one is still sulking, so will get binned if it doesn't buck up its ideas.

Aye, fuck the bitches that don't play ball.. I think, given, how few we grow compared to proper breeders, we can't afford to have iffy ones.  I'm planting about 50 to find 9. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, KC said:

These coco threads always put me off trying coco, compost just seems so much easier lol

 

Good luck with the build ratty :v:

 

 

when i was adding cal mag to compost nutes it would throw them out of whack, now i'm adding cal mag before the nutes and counting the N in the cal mag as part of the feed it looks like that's fine as long as the EC is the same with or without cal mag, if that makes sense lol the new growth looks like it likes it any way.

 

i really think this is the way forward for my shitty water, seeing the way they have responded so quickly is amazing. don't be put off mate, the main cause of the thread was my own stupid fault letting them get cold lol

 

for years i always thought it looked too complicated, now after a week of feeding i'm starting to understand the ec/ph stuff, in fact my mixed nutes are at ph 6.2 without having to adjust so that's a bonus for having shite water lol

 

i'm going to take friday off and get the cupboard operational and then finish the build on saturday, the plants are growing so fast i might have to do something before that lol

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