Pot of soil Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, GSZZ said: Its better, especially as you're combining it with top watering. Are you using a coir mix by chance? Like perlite or pebbles mixed with coir? These kind of mixes are impossible to hand water and get enough to the plants, without doing what you're doing IE you keep watering until they stop wicking it back up and then dash whats left in the saucer, but long term that causes loads of issues and its loads of work. Cheers @GSZZ Im glad I asked, as I had started to do that quite a bit. At the minute I'm just using canna coco profestional plus in 3.5 inch pots. I've decided to go with the hempy bucket style of growing which will see me using pebbles when I get round to making them Im guessing that until they are put into the hempy buckets, I need to either A)water more frquently B)water with a watering can and rose to slow down the process, instead of the current tactic which is to use a jug. Sorry for hijacking the thread (puts hand up and dips neck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 ph meter arrived today, just calibrated it so ready to knock up a measured feed when the lights come back on, they are still looking good, but i don't want to over water, i doubt the root balls are that big yet but will have a look at the base of the pots and see what i think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyd79 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 19/01/2024 at 13:48, GSZZ said: Do you mean how, rather than where? I use drain trays, either individual or large ones, that are plumbed to a brain bucket that pumps the waste water to a collection tank that (ideally) I drain onto the garden, but sometimes it has to go down the drains for safety as it can be a bit suss dumping lots of buckets onto the garden, especially at this time of year. Alternatively, I use plant pot saucers turned upside down with holes drilled in them, placed into a larger tray and place the plants on those, when they're watered it collects in the tray but the plants aren't sat in it - I can then collect that run off later with a pump, wet/dry vac or a big sponge and a bucket and dispose of as aforementioned. You've explained how you water/feed very well but do you not think that your making a lot of work for yourself? I agree watering to run off is beneficial which I do every feed but only a slight run off so i know the pot is watered through. The need to remove the excess for a lot of peoples grow rooms is a ball ache. Reducing your feed towards the end of flower and a few plain waterings at the end reduces the salt build up. Some people don't flush they just taper down. Do you think people growing in soil using chemical fertilisers are clearing the run off after every feed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSZZ Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 16 minutes ago, lennyd79 said: You've explained how you water/feed very well but do you not think that your making a lot of work for yourself? I agree watering to run off is beneficial which I do every feed but only a slight run off so i know the pot is watered through. The need to remove the excess for a lot of peoples grow rooms is a ball ache. Reducing your feed towards the end of flower and a few plain waterings at the end reduces the salt build up. Some people don't flush they just taper down. Do you think people growing in soil using chemical fertilisers are clearing the run off after every feed! Dress it up as much as you like Lenny mate, but the issue here is you cant be arsed which is fine mate, I am a very lazy grower myself also, but there is a point where you stop giving the plant what it wants, and start giving it what you want, cos its easier. Crack on dude, you do you, but feeding from the bottom continously, never exchanging the stale gasses/air inside the pot, or flushing away excess salts, is not the right way to grow the best quality/yielding plants possibe, but hey, if you're happy with what you're doing keep filling them trays up pal Edited January 20 by GSZZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyd79 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, GSZZ said: Dress it up as much as you like Lenny mate, but the issue here is you cant be arsed which is fine mate, I am a very lazy grower myself also, but there is a point where you stop giving the plant what it wants, and start giving it what you want, cos its easier. Crack on dude, you do you, but feeding from the bottom continously, never exchanging the stale gasses/air inside the pot, or flushing away excess salts, is not the right way to grow the best quality/yielding plants possibe, but hey, if you're happy with what you're doing keep filling them trays up pal Manners please? I was just discussing a topic between ourselves so no need to go on an ego rant. Edited January 20 by lennyd79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 right, so getting this feed malarkey mixed and measured is a peice of piss, especially as the ionic lands at around 6.1 without adjustment atm, now i just need to gauge how much, i fed at 1.5 again today but reckon i should be at 1.6 . a few spots developing on the leaves still, but looking pretty good still, all things considered. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 (edited) On 18/01/2024 at 19:01, Arthur Mix said: I’d also not be at that EC level yet maybe 1.3 or 1.4. I’m presuming that you had these in coco all along and not changed from compost to coco ? sorry mate, i missed your post. i am still feeding at 1.5, and they were potted up from coco/compost mix. e2a, i've still got that three bottle grow nutes, i think that was nova max from TA, perhaps that would be better, it was for soft water. Edited January 21 by ratdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 thanks @mikeydoughnut will do. this change has inspired me to carry on with the build @Revive although slightly smaller, i don't want to feel too cramped in my bed at night here's the carcase, it's a 1x1m room with 500mm space then the cupboard in the wall which is about .7m2. space is at a huge premium, so i'm working with stuff in my way 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revive Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) @ratdog good to see your little plan is up and running again still plenty big enough for your needs I'm sure, like you say your gonna be a bit cramped otherwise. what's the plan for the cupboard door rats? I see it opens inwards into the new space. are you using the cupboard as a separate area or is it going to be opened up as 1 space? Looking forward to seeing it all take shape brother, should keep you busy for a while Edited January 21 by Revive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 21 minutes ago, Revive said: what's the plan for the cupboard door rats? I see it opens inwards into the new space. they will be removed, and it will be one big space, easier to heat and extract without fucking around. yes, will keep my mind busy thinking about this and that, i wanted to secure into the ceiling, but it's concrete and even the sds drill says "fuck that man!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindSoup Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Rent yourself one of these buh. Be careful though, I very nearly ended up with a nail in my jugular using one to fasten 2x4s to I beams. . No more nails is probably a more sensible idea . Edited January 21 by MindSoup 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latigid aikon Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MindSoup said: Rent yourself one of these buh. Forget that toy, get one of the American things that use bullets to fire nails into walls edit: sorry, I see that is what that is, I didn't think you could get them here? Ramset is the one I've seen before. Edited January 21 by latigid aikon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindSoup Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 TBF I only ever used one in NZ, so they might not be available here . But yeah, serious bit of kit, drive a 4 inch nail straight into concrete or through 10mm of solid steel. The nails do have a habit of deciding they'd rather fly at you than into the wall though, I eventually refused to use it without a hefty pay rise, I can see why they might not be allowed in certain places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revive Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ratdog said: wanted to secure into the ceiling, but it's concrete and even the sds drill says "fuck that man With a decent drill bit it shouldn't be a problem dude.. or you could have stuck it with polyurethane glue like lumberjack..only issue would be the mess it left if you had to remove it ever. I use the stuff all the time and it bonds to anything really well not like shitty grip fill, no nails or pink grip Goes off in about 10 mins and won't move after 24hrs Edited January 21 by Revive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latigid aikon Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, MindSoup said: I can see why they might not be allowed in certain places. TBH I thought they were USA only but it looks like you can get them here too. However it looks like the non-USA ones use a special cartridge whereas in America you can get ones that use standard .22 blank rounds, presumably because you can buy them anywhere easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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