Guest roger Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think I may have phrased it wrong, as I agree with you, they are as valid as eacother, I wouldn't go quite that far mate Maybe atheism is getting a bit more reactionary, but I'd suggest that this is in line with religious voices getting louder in certain parts of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roger Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cant help but feel Atheists are a little arrogant, but then i do err on the side of Agnosticism. They might say they know better than god, so I suppose you are right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baked Ben Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) I think I may have phrased it wrong, as I agree with you, they are as valid as eacother, I wouldn't go quite that far mate Maybe atheism is getting a bit more reactionary, but I'd suggest that this is in line with religious voices getting louder in certain parts of the world. Well, I don't want to cause any offence on here, so will say valid, rather than pissing 99% of people on here off by saying they're both invalid B) Yeah I agree that it is because of rising voices in religion, but what exactly are they trying to achieve? Very complex subject, but love having a good debate about it, I'm about to spark up too, so I'm sure in 30 minutes I'll just be preaching peace love and sublime unity! Edited November 18, 2008 by Baked Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roger Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Well, I don't want to cause any offence on here, so will say valid, rather than pissing 99% of people on here off by saying they're both invalid B) Express yourself, no one would take offence outside of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawberry Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cant help but feel Atheists are a little arrogant, but then i do err on the side of Agnosticism. Why arrogant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff Adder Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Can I have a return ticket please? *shows NUS card* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff Adder Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 fucking Christians, Scientologists, Muslims or whatever, they are all the same and they all need fucking locking up in a nut house togetherhow anyone can believe ANY of that shite is beyond me? basing your life around some old fictional stories from donkeys years ago is about as gullible as it gets IMO Amen brother! And killing in the name of religion has got to be one of the biggest hypocrisies ever yet its hugely popular amongst the masses! Why can't we all just get along and be stoned and merry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grandad Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i'm atheist but did you know the power that was used for us to arrive where we are today. something collided with planet earth and a piece broke off, its now our moon which we could not survive without, after performing this wonderous task another life form evolved, so another great object was hurled at planet earth and the dynasaurs were wiped out and then we evolved, somebody took lots of trouble just for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambium Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Update... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...to-streets.html Atheist buses denying God's existence take to streets Atheist adverts declaring that "there's probably no God" have been placed on 800 buses around Britain after an unprecedented fundraising campaign. By Martin Beckford, Religious Affairs Correspondent Last Updated: 11:27AM GMT 07 Jan 2009 The campaign's modest £5,500 target was met within minutes and more than £140,000 has now been donated Photo: PA Organisers originally hoped to put the message on just a handful of London buses, as an antidote to posters put up by religious groups which they claimed were "threatening eternal damnation" to non-believers. But after the campaign received high-profile support from the prominent atheist Prof Richard Dawkins and the British Humanist Association, the modest £5,500 target was met within minutes and more than £140,000 has now been donated since the launch in October. Enough money has now been raised to place the message – "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life" – on 200 bendy buses in the capital for a month, with the first ones taking to the streets . A further 600 buses carrying the adverts will be seen by passengers and passers-by in cities across England, Wales and Scotland, from Aberdeen and Dundee to York, Coventry, Swansea and Bristol. In addition, two large LCD screens bearing the atheist message have been placed in Oxford Street, central London, while 1,000 posters containing quotes from well-known non-believers will be placed on Underground trains for two weeks starting on Monday. They feature lines doubting the existence of God, and celebrating the natural world, written by Albert Einstein, Katharine Hepburn, Douglas Adams and Emily Dickinson. It is the first ever atheist advertising campaign to take place in Britain, and similar adverts are now also running on public transport in America and Spain. Ariane Sherine, a writer who first thought of the atheist bus adverts, said: "You wait ages for an atheist bus, then 800 come along at once. I hope they will brighten people's days and make them smile on their way to work." The campaign has even been welcomed by religious groups for increasing the profile of debate about faith, and although there was tight security outside the launch event by the Royal Albert Hall, the campaigners have not received any threats from fundamentalists. Paul Woolley, director of Theos, a theology think tank which donated £50 to the cause, said: "The posters will encourage people to consider the most important question we will ever face in our lives." Some atheist supporters of the campaign were disappointed that the wording of the adverts did not declare categorically that God does not exist, although there were fears that this could break advertising guidelines. Prof Dawkins, the renowned evolutionary biologist and author of The God Delusion, said: "I wanted something stronger but with hindsight I think it's probably a good thing because it makes people think. It's just food for thought – people will have conversations in pubs when they see these buses." Hanne Stinson, chief executive of the British Humanist Association, said the adverts were "overwhelmingly positive" and were intended to reassure agnostics and atheists that there is nothing wrong with not believing in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) If a week old baby dies, does it go to heaven or hell? It must go somewhere according to religions. If it goes to heaven or hell for supposed eternity does it stay a week old baby, do things age in heaven or hell? You can see how fucking stupid these questions are and how stupid the belief in those religions are. People accuse the jews of ruling the world well they have done through the fuckin bible. Zeitgiest gives the best explanation using the history of a figurehead and belief system dating back to the egyptians used for control of the masses. rest of post withheld Edited January 7, 2009 by Archangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The Jesus Fish, as it is known, is a chromed plastic fish with the word 'Jesus' or some symbol of the Christian faith inside it. It is placed on the trunk or in another conspicuous spot. The Jesus Fish appears on a startling array of cars, but is most often seen on minivans, luxury cars like Cadillacs and Lincolns driven by blue-haired old ladies. In England, it most often appears stuck to the back end of a Volvo, driven by a nondescript lady in glasses and a cardigan. About five years ago, some non-Christian people got tired of the Jesus Fish and made their own version. It had legs, and the word 'Darwin' inside the fish body. The Darwin Fish took hold slowly at first, but has finally taken its place beside the Jesus Fish as one of the most common car decorations. The Jesus Fish people, however, are greatly disturbed by this and wish to make their feelings clear. To that end, they devised the Truth Fish: A Jesus Fish with the word 'Truth' inside the fish body. Its open mouth is devouring a Darwin Fish. The Darwin Fish camp responded with the Snappy Truth Fish send-up. It consists of an Evolution Fish (a Darwin Fish with the word 'Darwin' replaced with 'Evolution') doing something rather nasty to a Jesus Fish. The Jesus Fish camp have yet to react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraglor Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The Jesus Fish, as it is known, is a chromed plastic fish with the word 'Jesus' or some symbol of the Christian faith inside it. It is placed on the trunk or in another conspicuous spot. The Jesus Fish appears on a startling array of cars, but is most often seen on minivans, luxury cars like Cadillacs and Lincolns driven by blue-haired old ladies. In England, it most often appears stuck to the back end of a Volvo, driven by a nondescript lady in glasses and a cardigan.About five years ago, some non-Christian people got tired of the Jesus Fish and made their own version. It had legs, and the word 'Darwin' inside the fish body. The Darwin Fish took hold slowly at first, but has finally taken its place beside the Jesus Fish as one of the most common car decorations. The Jesus Fish people, however, are greatly disturbed by this and wish to make their feelings clear. To that end, they devised the Truth Fish: A Jesus Fish with the word 'Truth' inside the fish body. Its open mouth is devouring a Darwin Fish. The Darwin Fish camp responded with the Snappy Truth Fish send-up. It consists of an Evolution Fish (a Darwin Fish with the word 'Darwin' replaced with 'Evolution') doing something rather nasty to a Jesus Fish. The Jesus Fish camp have yet to react. why don't the darwin team just get a man with a fishing rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gen131 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 kids say the darnedest things. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gen131 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 sorry for getting on the bus, mates. would the bus be going by comedy central. thats where i want to get off. the bus. get off the bus jethro. scraglor; thought your retort was keen. gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Love the lack of conviction "probably" its all me meme with that Richard Dawkins! That's what I thought at 1st, but the probability of a God is 0% as you need evidence to prove a probability. So it kinda works, but yeah they should have lost the word probably. Religions aren't memes they are memeplexes (a number of memes that join together) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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