catweazle1 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 26 minutes ago, ratdog said: i really think this is the way forward for my shitty water, seeing the way they have responded so quickly is amazing. don't be put off mate, the main cause of the thread was my own stupid fault letting them get cold If you are hit with a cold spell in your growroom, for whatever reason, take the moisture level down to just damp at root level. Hold that until the temp issue is sorted. Same applies to all particulate media. If you want to grow sub-20c, perlite is a must to prevent the water blocking the air spaces. That moisture doesn't disappear/evaporate as quickly as in warm conditions, so the roots starve of air whilst they are drowned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, mikeydoughnut said: get yer truncheon out mucka I was thinking about buying one recently but more for a perlite hempy bucket. When I hear about the amount of nutes people throw away with coco is one of the reasons I get put off. I suppose you can ofset that by buying the 10ltr bottles/biggest ones you can buy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, KC said: When I hear about the amount of nutes people throw away with coco is one of the reasons I get put off. me too mate, it irks me already, i'll start using in the polytunnel in the spring and i wouldn't be going down this route if it wasn't for my shitty water. i was just looking at the girls and already have a female, it was the first most vigorous plant to get going, she's a beauty, hopefully she's a keeper. those best starters are usually male for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot of soil Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) On 23/01/2024 at 11:33, KC said: These coco threads always put me off trying coco, compost just seems so much easier Good luck with the build ratty It was the same for me as well, it sounded far to technical and advanced but low yields, poor tasting smoke and higher electricity prices have made me try it. I've found this thread quite well timed to be honest and very helpful with good nuggets of knowledge so thanks @ratdogfor documenting your grow Im only 4 weeks in, but all my rooted clones are still alive and some even been potted up. I've learnt to water more often Water to runoff If the ec is higher coming out of the pot is higher then whats going in, before flushing or lowering ec, see if the problem can be fixed by watering even more often I think I might have over done the water to run off thing and I am a bit worried ive washed out the pre buffering agent as from 3 liters of feed I had 1 liter of run off to get rid of and the pots are no more then 2 liters and there was only for of them, but I'll get better at judging 30 percent im sure. Good luck with the grow @ratdog as soon as my buckets are here im going to be making hempys as well Edited January 24 by Pot of soil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot of soil Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 If the ec run off, is coming out, a lower reading, then the ec going in Eg 1.5 in and 1.3out Is it saying I can up the feed, I haven't come to that conclusion, I've just read it, but as with everything worth double checking imo Also if my water was tested and the results said 7.4ph Why is it coming out of my 100l storage water butt @8.4, as its just meaning I'm having to us more phdown. @3ml (just under) a liter, my hard water nutrients bring it down to 6.5 ph, alright I only have to use a few drops but still from what I've read it's best to use as less of it as you can. Whats bothering me is why is it going up. What is causing it and can I stop it Not sure if anyone knows But using nutrients at 2ml a liter means I have to use a lot more drops so if I can do something to fix it. It would probably be a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyd79 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 23/01/2024 at 11:33, KC said: These coco threads always put me off trying coco, compost just seems so much easier Good luck with the build ratty Coco can be as easy as soil. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippy One Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 23/01/2024 at 11:33, KC said: These coco threads always put me off trying coco, compost just seems so much easier Good luck with the build ratty Coco, beanstalk pellets, nasty hard tap water, done. E.C can fuck off. Runoff E.C can fuck right off, ph is just the sound the letter F makes, leaving truncheons and ph meters superfluous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippy One Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, lennyd79 said: Coco can be as easy as soil. You're wrong, soil is a cunt. Can't overwater coco. Nutrient deficiencies can be fixed in 24hrs with coco. Smaller pots can be used too. Soil 0 - Coco 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSZZ Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Got to agree with @Slippy One in that I never understood the whole "soil is easier" thing, its proper not so easy for someone not clued up on how to "read" the signs of a plant and a pot of soil to fuck it up by over/under watering or over/underfeeding. You can still over/under feed in coco but its easier to fix, and as long as the coco isn't sat in its own filth and the pot can drain, you'd have to really try hard to over water it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyd79 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Well to be honest yeah I switched to coco years ago because I was finding soil a ball ache at times. I have soft water and when I went to coco I chanced it with not bothering with PH or EC meters and everything was spot on. Reading the plants is much easier in coco I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Well I still think compost is a piece of piss. As long as you can pick the pot up it's easy to know when to water and not using hps makes reading the plants a hell of a lot easier, you've just got to be on it a bit earlier with nutes.. If you're working with a known cut it's even easier. Maybe the problem with compost is there are so many different brands/mixes and they'll differ slightly. Anyway, I'm off topic so I'll shut up now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdog Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 compost really isn't that hard if your water is ok, my ec at the tap is .2 so proof that not using mineral supplements is a proven disaster i foolishly listened to people telling me i didn't need cal mag, and i felt that i was missing something, but now i'm on coco i have to use cal mag i can handle either, but now i've invested in the coco stuff i'll ride it out, it does seem logical to mix nutes with cal mag taken into consideration and ec measured, and the plants seem to be happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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