Dinafem-Mark Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 @The Green Lampost Divorce Gateux is quite catchy Congrats on hitting the 50 post mark my friend All the best Mark.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Surely “Affair dessert” comes before divorce gateau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nl5 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Rampa Green said: Surely “Affair dessert” comes before divorce gateau Or ‘cake on the side’ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooting Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Someone has actually stopped you stealing genetics are reselling them as your own? Progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nl5 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, tooting said: Someone has actually stopped you stealing genetics are reselling them as your own? Progress! Yea all the other seed breeders make there strains from scratch every seed is hijacked from someone else’s work, the good breeders acknowledge the origin imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooting Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Same strains, same names, straight up theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooting Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, nl5 said: Yea all the other seed breeders make there strains from scratch every seed is hijacked from someone else’s work, the good breeders acknowledge the origin imo. Old-timers work in made from plants selected by him over years. Neville collected seeds across the globe and made new strains. Even the glorified hackers that make up most of the (in)breeders in the USA make more effort than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I’m sure the clone was given to dinafem, not stolen. Mark, I hope you wore your balaclava during this clone heist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, tooting said: Old-timers work in made from plants selected by him over years. Neville collected seeds across the globe and made new strains. Even the glorified hackers that make up most of the (in)breeders in the USA make more effort than this. Smile was created with a clone of Camden poison, which ot1 doesn’t know a great deal of its history x with a plant he called Celia. Doesn’t make him a thief or does it? I’d say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nl5 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, tooting said: Old-timers work in made from plants selected by him over years. Neville collected seeds across the globe and made new strains. Even the glorified hackers that make up most of the (in)breeders in the USA make more effort than this. I’m pretty sure if you ask ot1 he’ll tell you his work was for the love of the plant not monetary, the original breeders of these American strains used bagseed from who knows what and sell them for hundreds a pack, there the 1s in the wrong if anyone is imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooting Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Rampa Green said: Smile was created with a clone of Camden poison, which ot1 doesn’t know a great deal of its history x with a plant he called Celia. Doesn’t make him a thief or does it? I’d say no as if that's the same thing. I know how Smile was created as well as the man can recall. Years of work and selection almost entirely via him. There's a difference between using ingredients to make your own cake and reselling a finished cake some else made that you sprayed silver on and resold. Have they ever actually made anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooting Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, nl5 said: I’m pretty sure if you ask ot1 he’ll tell you his work was for the love of the plant not monetary, the original breeders of these American strains used bagseed from who knows what and sell them for hundreds a pack, there the 1s in the wrong if anyone is imo. I never speculated on *why* he did it but I'm sure you're correct there. What value to the community does selfing these clones and selling them as if they're the real thing provide. They're not anyway as I'm sure you're aware, an S1 is rarely a good representation of the original strain just look at fems version of Cheese. Nothing like it any of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nl5 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, tooting said: I never speculated on *why* he did it but I'm sure you're correct there. What value to the community does selfing these clones and selling them as if they're the real thing provide. They're not anyway as I'm sure you're aware, an S1 is rarely a good representation of the original strain just look at fems version of Cheese. Nothing like it any of them. The American strains are full of hermie traits aswel, the whole lot belong in the bin far as I’m concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooting Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, nl5 said: The American strains are full of hermie traits aswel, the whole lot belong in the bin far as I’m concerned. My favourite clone is American. It's stable enough in my room, but quite possibly seeds from the same pack aren't, this isn't in different conditions. I agree basically though, most of them aren't really breeding they're just hacking on a larger scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) With decent company’s, Even selfed plants would get some kind of selection and back crossing. But imo you are correct with regards to the strain names, I would choose a variant name even without patents involved. Unlike big Buddha who thought he should own the name cheese lol. Cheese was never selfed, it was crossed with a male afghani in most cases due to infertile pollen and many companies lied about that. Edited May 10, 2019 by Rampa Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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