dotcotton Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Godspeed, Thank you for the kind words, nice of you stop by and comment. Your plants are looking lovely, really wishing I had some Cream Caramel in there. personally if there are nodes waiting to fill a space with a fan covering, id chop the leaf off. I've taken a closer look at some of the offending fan leaves and noticed that they usually have a shoot attached at the base. Won't popping the fan leaf off take the shoot with it? So what is the official line on scrog pruning, yay or nay? Guess I've got more reading to do Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphip Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I try to never pull the fan leaf off Dot. If you want to remove it then use a pair of scissors and cut about an inch away from where the leaf joins the stalk. Can't answer about the Scrog as I am a virgin for now. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks Hip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK. Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The way I see it, tomorrow or Friday I'll be trimming my plants down and healthy or not.. Two thirds of the plant will go, however, your method is the exact opposite, your plants need energy supplying EVERY bud site meaning it needs energy from the top to the bottom of the plant, seeing as there's a leaf under every node that would tell me (and this is just me) that the leaves feed the buds? Again just based on what I've gathered so far I think that makes sense I would just move it out the way mate CK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Nicely CK, That sounds perfectly logical to me and that's how I rationalised it before asking, just needed some confirmation. I'll do a bit more reading to see the pros and cons of each school of thought, and report back if I find anything of interest. Many thanks, Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphip Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Would you be able to train the budsites up, and when big enough, place the leaf below them but still above the net. (If you get what I mean.) Be interested how you go Dot. Is this your first attempt at Scrogging? Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Heya Hiphip, This is my first attempt at growing altogether The method that you have suggested is basically what I'm doing and seems to be working fine with the SAD and J47, but the blackjacks are incredibly bushy, there are fan leaves everywhere This being my first attempt, I think it's best just keep on top of things and tuck the leaves where possible. One thought I had is that the smothering fan leaves might be a good thing. As in, the shaded bud sites will be encouraged to reach for the net a little faster in order to compete for the light. Does that make sense? Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphip Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Heya Hiphip, This is my first attempt at growing altogether The method that you have suggested is basically what I'm doing and seems to be working fine with the SAD and J47, but the blackjacks are incredibly bushy, there are fan leaves everywhere This being my first attempt, I think it's best just keep on top of things and tuck the leaves where possible. One thought I had is that the smothering fan leaves might be a good thing. As in, the shaded bud sites will be encouraged to reach for the net a little faster in order to compete for the light. Does that make sense? Dot Wow. First attempt. OK. DO NOT PANIC. Think of the big leaves as sugar factories. The more surface area that gets light the better the resin production. However, if there are to many then humidity will rise causing concerns of a different kind. If you feel the need to remove some of the bigger ones then cut them. The plant will be fine. DO NOT PANIC. There's a whole load of very experienced growers on these boards so keep asking and you will have the answers. Stay safe and secure and get ready for the ride. All the best of luck Dot. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Wow. First attempt. OK. DO NOT PANIC. Making me panic now But seriously, thanks a lot, that makes good sense. I've been keeping a close eye on humidity and will probably be seeking a solution in a few weeks once in flower. Dot Edited March 1, 2012 by dotcotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Update 6th March 2012 It has been a week since my last update and I believe that we have finally reached the last day of veg. The net has filled fast and by my rough estimation has now reached the 70% target. There have been issues with the Wilma delivering enough feed and water to the plants. The Black Jacks started to develop dry, lifeless leaves and branches, coupled with slowed down growth. This has hopefully been resolved now with a 60 min on/15 min off schedule. Current EC 1.2 Some pics... Scrog before training Scrog after training BJ#1 61 days from seed BJ#1 is doing better now, growth had really slowed down and the leaves were twisting and almost brittle to the touch for a few days. I'm worried it may be getting root bound (I don't know if this is possible in hydro?) It certainly has more roots than pot space, judging by the wads of roots appearing from the base of the pot. BJ#2 61 days from seed Pretty much the same story as her bigger sister, but picked up and doing well now. SAD 61 days from seed SAD is doing great, it has almost overtaken the previous front runner BJ#1 ad at the moment she seems unstoppable. Also shooting out wads of roots into the Wilma table. J47 82 days from seed J47 is coming along nicely, certainly the petite lady amongst the heffas. I'm not expecting much yield from her, but it would be nice to sample the strain anyway. Some roots are protruding out of the bottom but not very much. Thanks for looking, as always, all comments/observations/advice very welcome. Dot Next up some flowering questions... Edited March 6, 2012 by dotcotton 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I am concerned that the long veg may cause issues with the seemingly crowded root zone. Drainage apeears to be suffering a little and I am worried that the pots might be getting water logged (see pics). Would anyone recommend some cautionary measures such as H202 or enzyme supplements? Root growth, SAD (front) and J47 (back) Also, some advice on how to make the flip to 12/12 would be great, I have read that I should change the nutrient solution to a 50/50 grow and bloom mix for the first three weeks. Is this correct? Anything else to note? I'm popping down to the hydro store in a few days to pick up some Ionic Boost PK 13/14, any other recommended additives/nutes for the flowering stage that I should get while I'm there? All I have at the moment is Grow, Bloom and planning to get some Boost. Many thanks, Dot Edited March 6, 2012 by dotcotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Dot's Switched the Tea Leaves Day 1 Flower The girls have had their first 12 hour sleep and they appear to be in really good spirits. Temps didn't drop below 19C and humidity maxed at 58%, so I'm pretty pleased with that for now. They are on 12 hours feed during lights on and EC seems happy at just under 1.2. I only updated yesterday, so there's not much more to say. I took some lazy flash photos with lights on, so apologies if they're less than decent. Group Shot. Clockwise from bottom left, J47, BJ#1, BJ#2, SAD Jack 47 Black Jack #1 Black Jack #2 SAD Rogue SAD root Edited March 8, 2012 by dotcotton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK. Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hey Dot buddy Gotta love that root gunning for the main source 12/12 eh.. It's gonna get busy now mate, reckon ya can fill that net? They certainly seem to be enjoying themselves now Just a quick one mate, what size is the net 1msq? ATB CK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcotton Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Alright CK, Good to hear from you mate. I'm a little worried that I've over vegged actually, which I've heard can be counter productive in a scrog. Everyone keeps saying to expect them to double or even tripple during stretch. If true, I don't know where they'd go The net is 1.2 sqm, planning a Scrog yourself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CK. Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 One day Dot I will do one.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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