Rock Dust.

[Wiz]

Ahh yeah I think your right man, it is the SEER'S stuff. All good good, will order later.

That's my checklist complete!! :wink:

Rockdust -

Rootgrow -

Trichoderma spores -

mollasses and seaweed extract -

Thanks Felix top fella

[established1976]

what about bat shit felix any detrimental affects on the other stuff?

[Davey Jones]

Established just a point, don't mix nutes with mollasses as it can burn roots, even mollasses alone can burn roots so be carefull.

Did you know mollasses is a nutrient base i.e nutrients are made from it and looking at a bottle of bio grow quite a proportion must be mollasses!!!!!!!

Bat shit now I am no expert but I had some I bought ages ago I added some by sprinkling it on top and I watered it in with mollasses well the buds grew excellent and I noticed only improvements but it could be coinidence.

The taste is better as well but I notice with my weed it tastes best when its fresh just after its dryed slowly the stuff I managed to cure tasted harsher, must of been me that fuked up.

Regards

EM2

[NewCrytstals]

Well high all,as title says i got a tub of rock dust today,,as i hear ppl going about it on here,well im 5 weeks into veg this time,was wondering can i use this now and how do i use it? and what does it do ,,,,,regards,,,Oss.

[established1976]

Well high all,as title says i got a tub of rock dust today,,as i hear ppl going about it on here,well im 5 weeks into veg this time,was wondering can i use this now and how do i use it? and what does it do ,,,,,regards,,,Oss.

mix it into your compost when you next pot up, you may want to get some rootgrow too

[NewCrytstals]

Thanks Established76,,yeah il get root grow and do that thanks,,,Oss.

[NieChris]

Just searched for this but I can't find a vendor in the UK - does anyone know if this is available over here?

[Randal Graves]

pinetum rock dust is what you want in the uk iirc

[Bish]

Well high all,as title says i got a tub of rock dust today,,as i hear ppl going about it on here,well im 5 weeks into veg this time,was wondering can i use this now and how do i use it? and what does it do ,,,,,regards,,,Oss.

Merged your thread with this one. Have a read

[capetonian]

Good evening people. I'm just trying to offer my help,

My best results have been achieved by mixing together the following listed items. I also apply the biobizz liquid fertilizers and superthrive, though I find I don't need to use that much when the grow medium has been properly innoculated(sp?).

A good product that is available in England is Vita link Bio Pak. It's a dry spore mix that you through into the soil. I can highly recommend it.

Rock dust (finely ground)

VAM spores (dry spores)

Seaweed extract (liquid)

Bat guano (fine powder)

Trichoderma spores (liquid)

Rock phosphate (mixed with vermiculite)

Composted worm castings

ROCK DUST COMPOSITION & APPLICATION

APPLICATION

A little goes a long way, so use rock dust sparingly and remember that twice

as much isn't necessarily twice as good. At the same time note that it will never

burn your plants, nor leach out the soil, even at overdose levels.

It is unlike regular water soluble fertilisers, so conventional thinking doesn't

apply, as we're focusing on feeding the soil, and not the plants directly. The

longer it is in the soil, the more the fungi & micro-organisms will have chance

to assimilate it and make it biologically available.

One always has to add ample amounts of organic matter (compost) to the soil

as it is imperative to build both the soils mineral & organic base. Along with soil

biological life these form the basis of the ANIMAL - MINERAL - VEGETABLE triad

that builds fertile soil, Nature's Way.

The following are rough guidelines only, as soils vary tremendously & thus individual

requirements will differ. It enhances & completes your current fertilising regime,

rather than replacing it outright. Twice yearly applications, along with ample

compost will suffice for most.

Seedlings - 1 Teaspoon per seedling

Pot plants - 1 Tablespoon per 5liter capacity

Trees - 500g to 1kg per tree

Shrubs & roses - 1 to 2 Cups per plant

Flower & veg beds - 500g to 1kg per square meter

Compost - 10kg per cubic meter of raw material

Agriculture - 500kg per hectare

Planting mixes - 2% of total volume of mix

COMPOSITION

Herewith composition breakdown of the major elements. This was an X-ray fluorescence spectrometry test

indicating the major elements as the oxides they occur naturally in the rock as.

Major Elements (weight %)

SiO2 48.58

TiO2 0.91

Al2O3 16.32

Fe2O3 9.30

MnO 0.18

MgO 6.36

CaO 12.11

Na2O 2.32

K2O 0.58

P2O5 0.15

Cr2O3 0.02

The following elemental analysis was done by SGS Lakefield Research Africa.

ELEMENT TEST & DETECTION LIMIT RESULT

As – Arsenic IMS12Q - 2ppm 5.1ppm

B – Boron CP40D - 50ppm <50ppm

Bi – Bismuth ICP40D - 20ppm <20ppm

Ca – Calcium ICP40D - 10ppm 54000ppm / 5.4%

Cr – Chromium ICP40D - 10ppm 160ppm

Cu – Copper ICP40D - 10ppm 65ppm

Li – Lithium ICP40D - 10ppm <10ppm

Mn – Manganese ICP40D - 10ppm 1000ppm

P – Phosphorus ICP40D - 53ppm 700ppm

Pb – Lead ICP40D - 30ppm <30ppm

Sr – Strontium ICP40D - 5ppm 240ppm

V – Vanadium ICP40D - 10ppm 170ppm

Zn – Zinc ICP40D - 10ppm 68ppm

Zr – Zirconium ICP40D - 10ppm 110ppm

Al – Aluminum ICP91B - 0.02% 7.98%

Ba – Barium ICP91B - 0.02% 0.03%

Fe – Iron ICP91B - 0.02% 6.45%

K – Potassium ICP91B - 0.02% 0.63%

Mg – Magnesium ICP91B - 0.02% 3.20%

Si – Silicon ICP91B - 0.1% 24.6%

Ti – Titanium ICP91B - 0.02% 0.50%

Th – Thorium IMS40B - 0.5ppm 3.8ppm

Tl – Thallium IMS40B - 0.2ppm <0.2ppm

W – Tungsten IMS40B - 0.5ppm 1.6ppm

U – Uranium IMS40B - 0.2ppm 1.0ppm

Au – Gold FAI313 - 0.02ppm <0.02ppm

Pt – Platinum FAI313 - 0.02ppm <0.02ppm

Pd – Palladium FAI313 - 0.02ppm 0.03ppm

Ir – Iridium FAI363 - 0.13ppm <0.13ppm

Rh – Rhodium FAI363 - 0.02ppm <0.02ppm

Ru – Ruthenium FAI363 - 0.02ppm <0.02ppm

C – Carbon CSALA01 - 0.01% 0.25%

S – Sulphur CSALA06 - 0.01% 0.11%

Be – Berillium IMS40B - 0.5ppm 0.95ppm

Sc – Scandium IMS40B - 0.5ppm 16ppm

Co – Cobalt IMS40B - 0.5ppm 41ppm

Ni – Nickel IMS40B - 5ppm 89ppm

Ga – Gallium IMS40B - 2ppm 24ppm

Ge – Germanium IMS40B - 0.5ppm 0.57ppm

Rb – Rubedium IMS40B - 1ppm 19ppm

Y – Yttrium IMS40B - 0.2ppm 26ppm

Nb – Niobium IMS40B - 0.5ppm 12ppm

Mo – Molybdenum IMS40B - 0.5ppm 1.9ppm

Ag – Silver IMS40B - 2ppm <2ppm

Cd – Cadmium IMS40B - 0.5ppm <0.5ppm

In – Indium IMS40B - 0.1ppm <0.1ppm

Sn –Tin IMS40B - 0.5ppm 1.6ppm

Cs – Cesium IMS40B - 0.2ppm 1.1ppm

Hf – Hafnium IMS40B - 0.1ppm 2.7ppm

Ta – Tantalum IMS40B - 0.1ppm <1ppm

Se – Selenium IMS12Q - 5ppm <5ppm

Te – Tellurium IMS12Q - 2ppm <2ppm

Sb – Antimony IMS12Q - 1ppm <1ppm

Hg – Mercury IMS12Q - 3ppm <3ppm

La – Lanthanum IMS90A - 10ppm 25ppm

Ce – Cerium IMS90A - 1ppm 39ppm

Pr – Praseodymium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 4.5ppm

Nd – Neodymium IMS90A - 0.2ppm 18ppm

Sm – Samarium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 4.0ppm

Eu – Europium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 1.2ppm

Tb – Terbium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 0.83ppm

Dy – Dysprosium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 4.6ppm

Ho – Holmium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 1.0ppm

Er – Erbium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 2.6ppm

Tm – Thulium IMS90A - 0.1ppm 0.29ppm

Yb – Ytterbium IMS90A - 0.2ppm 2.2ppm

Lu – Lutetium IMS90A - 0.1ppm <0.1

TEST FOR SOLUBLE SILICON

Si – Silicon ICP84B - 0.3mg/l 460mg/l

Edited May 12, 2008 by Owderb

[Cannalingus]

Hi all of you!

I see the great benefits from RD, but for cannabis in pot-culture on short cycle i don't wanna use too much of it. (Only if recycling the soil would I use it.)

Remember Cannabis accumulate heavy metals and minerals and hemp is used to heal toxic soils after environmental disasters and pollution. Some of these elements are present at pretty high levels in the basalt. (aluminum, lead, thallium, etc...-maybe cadmium too and these are very toxic if ingested/inhaled regularly.)

Someone mentioned how 1kg is enough for about 2600sqm of farmland, so be wise and use this sparingly even though it is cheap.

[Randalizer]

Remember Cannabis accumulate heavy metals and minerals and hemp is used to heal toxic soils after environmental disasters and pollution. Some of these elements are present at pretty high levels in the basalt. (aluminum, lead, thallium, etc...-maybe cadmium too and these are very toxic if ingested/inhaled regularly.)

Hiya Cannalingus,

Thanks for the heads up. Can you cite sources for the claims you mention above. I've heard stories of the russians using hemp to absorb radioactive elements from the soil around Cherbonyv (sp?).

tanky

[Cannalingus]

No, I cannot do that right now and I'm not sure I wanna bother doing it either. Just wanted to make you all aware that it shouldn't be used in heaps and heaps at least...

Anyways: It is just pretty common for plants to accumulate those elements and I know people have been ill from too much in their system.

Only thing regarding toxic pot is from what I have read online and in magazines or newspapers.

(Lead and cadmium levels are higiher from crops in areas close to heavy traffic roads. In my country there is a certain zone of some meters along roads where all crop is bought by government because it is non useable.

[Randalizer]

well without sources to cite I'm afraid most of your claims just sound like scare mongering techniques, ya know? I don't doubt plants can pull bad shit out the ground, but I'm much more worried about lettuce that grows by highways than I am pot grown in rock dust.

[Cannalingus]

all I say is that i would use it sparingly and not any amount over what is really needed for good bacterial growth. (There are minerals that will absorb free radicals exuded from chemical procecces in the soil and maybe the bacteria can reduce possible harm. Maybe there ain't no harm, ut it is a known fact that cmoking tobacco and hemp from toxic soils are bad. Wheter rock-dust let potted plants rech these levels are unknown, but I'd at least compost it a little first and use sparingly.)

Hell I use Bio Bizz premix which has it's amounts of rock dusts/granite dusts in it, so it's no aim to scare anyone. I just say that all organics should also be applied wiseely.

I dunno why there is so bad to grow with and consume water that run from quarries and mines either, but I don't do it because of possible high levels of elements I do not want.

My philosophy in organic/bio growing indoors is to supply the plants/and good bacteria with what they need in the purest and best available form and then add some grains of other elements known to be present in most good soil and forestbeds. (fruit extracts and other crap from manure to guano).

BYW Here are a few links to metal and cannabis at google. read if you like.

http://www.google.no/search?q=cannabis+%2B...lient=firefox-a