soto Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, bartman said: That’s about it for me. No ifs buts or unlesses. Just that. And certainly no card supremacy say no to card supremacy. I said unless because if you have a legal script and using the medicine in public, it's highly likely you'll eventually get accosted by the police because some nosey tabloid reading member of the public tried to grass you up. You can always show your prescription to the police but it makes more sense to have one card (MedicannID) recognised by the police which can achieve this. I also think this kinda provides you with more legal protection in the sense that if they do decide to take any action, they'll be more in the shit if you've shown them both your prescription and the MedicannID Edited January 28, 2021 by soto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soto Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Sorry I have only just read through the whole thread. Avoid telling your GP practice anything about Cancard or whether you're using cannabis medicinally. You don't have to, just get hold of your Summary of Care Record, it'll have all your conditions on there and will enable Cancard to determine whether you would normally be eligible for a legal medicinal cannabis script. Please do read the FAQs on their site as it explains all this. And no I do not work for cancard or have any association with them whatsoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustin Jieber Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 hours ago, syrus420 said: people have even been get Compensation for there grow rooms been taken n the harassment caused . do you have any evidence of this? cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustin Jieber Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 hours ago, syrus420 said: people have even been get Compensation for there grow rooms been taken n the harassment caused . do you have any evidence of this? cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_machine Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, soto said: Avoid telling your GP practice anything about Cancard or whether you're using cannabis medicinally. You don't have to, just get hold of your Summary of Care Record, it'll have all your conditions on there and will enable Cancard to determine whether you would normally be eligible for a legal medicinal cannabis script. Hey @soto while I generally agree with you, I came to the conlcusion last year that maybe it was time for some people to stick their head above the parapet and take a bit of risk. To my mind if we all want the law to change it will eventually require that some people do this. I think I am in a good position to take this risk so my plan this year has been to stick my kneck out and if the police arrest me for it to fight it in court. I should also add that both my GP (prevous one and current one) and the specilaists at guys and st. thomas who treat me, are all aware I use cannabis for medical reasons, and I do this with their full support. I wrote about this more in another thread last year, but that is the plan. We will have to see how it goes. greenie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growinggold Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 @syrus420 thanks for sharing bro, it's still good to know all available and cheaper options. @green_machine how much will this be setting you back? We talking hundreds or thousands? Also thanks for taking the risk and keeping us in the loop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid the Seedkiller Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, green_machine said: Hey @soto while I generally agree with you, I came to the conlcusion last year that maybe it was time for some people to stick their head above the parapet and take a bit of risk. To my mind if we all want the law to change it will eventually require that some people do this. I think I am in a good position to take this risk so my plan this year has been to stick my kneck out and if the police arrest me for it to fight it in court. I should also add that both my GP (prevous one and current one) and the specilaists at guys and st. thomas who treat me, are all aware I use cannabis for medical reasons, and I do this with their full support. I wrote about this more in another thread last year, but that is the plan. We will have to see how it goes. greenie I'm in a similar position mate. Funny thing is my GP is big time anti cannabis, even tries to blame some of my conditions on it, but my psychiatrist told me very firmly, "if it helps you, you keep doing it". Makes me laugh how disconnected the two fields are. GP's are just jack of all trades, master of none, and they just tow the line they are given regarding things like cannabis. Its only when you begin to see specialists in their fields that they become aware of the benefits. I'd love to know if anyone has a GP who is pro ganj. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrus420 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, soto said: That Medicancard is a bit of a joke, it's not recognised by police, no police force has been briefed on it so how is it helping you avoid prosecution if it doesn't even do this from the outset? Arguably medicancard was set up to make money off the back of Cancard. There is no need for another scheme for illicit medicinal cannabis use and calling it medicancard is really unhelpful given there's another scheme for those with legal medicincal cannabis prescriptions called medcannid. Also there's no mention on the Medicancard website as to whether the information they receive gets encrypted. That's a big red flag there if you ask me, especially given the way cancard handles and encrypts the data they receive is partly why they have to charge people for the cards. Just why does medicancard need to charge £19 per card? The police force / cps do know about the card for starters .. the do not store your data your data is deleted once your card has been set out .. 19 pound cover your Solicitor which will handle your case for you bargain really .. does cancard provide u with your own case worker who are experts in cannabis Prosecution cases ? You should know all this if you have been keep such a close eye on it. Are u following outlaw n the progress he is making plus all the weed he gives out to key works ? Edited January 28, 2021 by syrus420 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrus420 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Bustin Jieber said: do you have any evidence of this? cheers. No links sorry just testimonial in the book n on Instagram n one person I follow who got 2500 in comp after they took his 4 plants n equipment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrus420 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, Sid the Seedkiller said: I'm in a similar position mate. Funny thing is my GP is big time anti cannabis, even tries to blame some of my conditions on it, but my psychiatrist told me very firmly, "if it helps you, you keep doing it". Makes me laugh how disconnected the two fields are. GP's are just jack of all trades, master of none, and they just tow the line they are given regarding things like cannabis. Its only when you begin to see specialists in their fields that they become aware of the benefits. I'd love to know if anyone has a GP who is pro ganj. My GP is totally against it to dude .. i also had a specials who stopped referring me for further treatment after I told her I used cannabis.. gps are just trained to sell drugs there not interested when u tell them u are self 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_machine Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Costs haven't been ridiculous yet @growinggold So far I have had an intial consultation, follow up and prescription from sapphire medical, the total costs for this have been around £450.00. I wanted to do this to have a documented trail to show that I am covered under the current cannbis laws, however, even though they have reduced the costs for medicinal cannabis, long term this is still cost prohibitive for me so it is not something I could continue. I have also spoken to and instructed a barrister who specilises in Cannabis laws on a public access basis. This has proven to be a little expensive and so far I have spent around another £700 on this. Of course if this does go to court, costs will quickly increase but we (my wife and I) have discussed this and are prepared for what might happen. As I said I think I am in a good position to do this, because of my condiiton we don't have children so I have no dependents relying on me, we own our house and I am a researcher and lecturere at a universty and both the head of our department and the HR department know that I use cannabis for medical reasons so if I was busted it should not affect my job. The eventual goal, when I feel I am as protected as I can be, will be to inform the police about what I am doing and see what happens. Ideally they will charge me and we will then go to court and can argue this out there hopefully clarifying the law for medical patients throughout the UK. However, there is a strong possibility that they might choose not to prosecute, which in its own way would also be a solution to other med users. It is still early days so we will have to see what happens, but quite frankly I am sick and tired of hiding in the shadows, just for using a medicine that allows me to live a relatively normal life. greenie 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growinggold Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Power to you @green_machine your methods, reasoning and plans are amazing. Costs are quite high then. I will remain in the shadows. I really wish you all the best and being at forefront of this is really pioneering. so credit again to you, your family and work. Please please work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltySativa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I've taken a similar stance to @green_machine I'm with Sapphire Medical, only short term as extra proof I'm eligible. I applied for Cancard on their opening day (30th Nov), been approved and paid for the card, but still awaiting delivery. They've confirmed the card deliveries have been delayed due to Covid lockdown, but no eta as yet. Once I have my card I'll look to wind down with Sapphire as its just too expensive. Will announce when my card finally arrives! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soto Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, syrus420 said: The police force / cps do know about the card for starters .. the do not store your data your data is deleted once your card has been set out .. 19 pound cover your Solicitor which will handle your case for you bargain really .. does cancard provide u with your own case worker who are experts in cannabis Prosecution cases ? You should know all this if you have been keep such a close eye on it. Are u following outlaw n the progress he is making plus all the weed he gives out to key works ? Apologies for overlooking the legal cover but I'd assume that people in this position will be eligible for legal aid? My understanding is that for simple possession many people represent themselves and get help from both the duty solicitor and organisations like Release. The main problem I see with Medicancard is that it's not endorsed by the police, and correct me if I'm wrong but neither is the database they hold encrypted. I may be wrong on that last point but considering just how much it costs to achieve this, I find it hard to believe they are doing this. For e.g. it was only a massive discount from the company that sets up these servers that made it possible for Cancard to set it up without the cards beginning to become a bit expensive. Edited January 28, 2021 by soto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soto Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, green_machine said: Hey @soto while I generally agree with you, I came to the conlcusion last year that maybe it was time for some people to stick their head above the parapet and take a bit of risk. To my mind if we all want the law to change it will eventually require that some people do this. I think I am in a good position to take this risk so my plan this year has been to stick my kneck out and if the police arrest me for it to fight it in court. I should also add that both my GP (prevous one and current one) and the specilaists at guys and st. thomas who treat me, are all aware I use cannabis for medical reasons, and I do this with their full support. I wrote about this more in another thread last year, but that is the plan. We will have to see how it goes. greenie Hi Greenie, I agree that it's good to be open about cannabis use, especially if the medical professional you're talking to is quite sympathetic to your cause. I just think people need to be aware of potential consequences of doing this. For example, you can be denied certain treatments on the NHS if you're using illegal drugs, counselling for example. The DVLA can also be informed about your cannabis use. Edited January 28, 2021 by soto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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