Private Clinics/Prescriptions

[twigs]

43 minutes ago, iShouldCoCo said:

 

Ah Twigs, I have been expecting you

 

 

if ‘good’ means being assured by written law your not going to be arrested and being able to grow my meds in peace i’m ‘A ok’ with it..  but..

the cannacard can’t do that and i can’t afford prescription cannabis and the consultations for us.. so.. I guess i’m still a law breaker because I simply can’t afford the luxury of being legal  

 

HOW MENTAL IS THAT! were will that train stop?

 

speeding, stealing.. murder? shall we give out ‘murder cards‘   imagen the ad’s for that  free knife with every card! 

 

mental..

 

 

 

[iShouldCoCo]

3 minutes ago, twigs said:

 

 

if ‘good’ means being assured by written law your not going to be arrested and being able to grow my meds in peace i’m ‘A ok’ with it..  but..

the cannacard can’t do that and i can’t afford prescription cannabis and the consultations for us.. so.. I guess i’m still a law breaker because I simply can’t afford the luxury of being legal  

 

HOW MENTAL IS THAT! were will that train stop?

 

speeding, stealing.. murder? shall we give out ‘murder cards‘   imagen the ad’s for that  free knife with every card! 

 

mental..

 

 

 

I'm thinking good being forward momentum towards 'normalisation' and some semblance evidence based drug policy, with more accessible treatment pathways and less criminalisation of medical users. Perfect being all our individual ideas of an ideal world.

It's still early days, but I saw this bit in the Cancard FAQ and thought of you:
 

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Does the scheme cover home growing?


We are focusing on simple possession while we are in the process of working in the background on the amnesty project. This may be something we fold in as our work with the police and the CPS continues. 

We understand that supply is safer and can be more personalised if the option for home growing were open to patients, and after all, this is how this project began. We will be updating everyone as discussions around this turn into workable solutions later in the year.
 
However, if you are caught cultivating cannabis - Cancard will provide key information to officers at the scene and the CPS upon interview, this should go a way to demonstrate intent and question if it is in the publics best interest to pursue a charge.

 

Well, yes - speeding - you are unlikely to be prosecuted in certain mitigating circumstances, stealing same (depending on the situation), and murder - well, government sanctioned killing is a thing - so all those things exist prior to this quirk of human history and some of them even have a card Cancard seems to have been founded for people exactly in your situation (eligible but can't afford private prescription).

[twigs]

17 hours ago, iShouldCoCo said:

However, if you are caught cultivating cannabis - Cancard will provide key information to officers at the scene and the CPS upon interview, this should go a way to demonstrate intent and question if it is in the publics best interest to pursue a charge

 

I can provide probably 100 times more info as to why I shouldn’t be arrested than the ‘key information’ in the cannacard blurb could ever wish too..

 

but it still won’t stop my door going through or charges being given..

 

because it (the card) (and my explanation) are only a ‘plea’ (begging) to not arrest or charge.. because the law hasn’t changed

 

its no different to the cannathist poster you could print off from yesteryear.. 

 

all i’m doing is pointing out the fact that the card can offer no guarantee against arrest because the law hasn’t changed.. 

 

in every case that goes to court the cps weigh up what’s going on, and still press ahead with charges, even on tiny amounts of weed - (probably more so now because they have a legal pharma canna market to protect)

 

..as a side thought, are there any examples of the card working in real life.? that could at least set a precedent (if it goes to high court?)

 

sorry for being a stick in the mud   but i can’t see the card offering us any protection in our situation (maybe the mrs. but not me as i have no recent script history, i’ve always sorted myself out, i have med records proving i broke my back but no ongoing pain management prescriptions)

 

But I also don’t think that because you need it medically you should be more protected - it’s still medically active as a protectorate if your using it recreationally..

 

as in it never stops being medically active

 

again sorry   its just my opinion mate, the idea of giving all our details over to a stranger offering protection when the law hasn’t yet changed doesn’t sit well with me.. you giving everything up with no guarantees.. gambling

 

Id rather sit tight, keep my money and not throw the dice, the owner of the casino always wins..

 

[Diddy]

Im kinda getting the vibe here that Twigs and some others are not really up for "taking one for the team" lol. All/most of us hope this leads to the promised land of decriminalisation. But with most/all of us having learned the mantra "No tell, No sell, No smell" and can produce our own meds for a fair bit cheaper than the prices quoted coupled with the fact that we have endeavoured to be annon/secure. This is aimed at some of us for sure but it really will be taken up by those who until now had to go abroad to get oil and were risking it through customs ect. These people are the torch bearers for now. 

It's aimed at consumption and possession for now and that's fine. IMHO when that become "normal" then we can start making noises about grow trials say in a co-op sort of charity way. But imho that comes at the very earliest a year or two after the above scheme is fully up and running.

[itsmeithink]

On 13/09/2020 at 8:51 AM, blackpoolbouncer said:

I'd love a script, just for legitimacy when out and about. Sadly because I've not been through the mill with the docs for my anxiety/depression and other things cannabis helps me with I believe it have little chance of passing the criteria because in most cases for my conditions I've not tried 2 or more prescription medicines. 

 

I'm A ok 100% physically and mentally looking after myself with my cannabis. I certainly ain't gonna start taking a rake of prescription drugs so I can get a piece of paper. Even if they did work. They are a shite alternative to the product that currently works very well for me. 

 

I feel like I've faced huge battles that I've managed to conquer with nothing but determination and self healing and a bit of cannabis to keep me on the level. I've done incredivlbly well over the years to lead a normal life without taking prescription meds and now I'm in a penalised position as diagnosed sufferer that's never had any prescriptions because I have some thing that works(cannabis) but I can't get a prescrition for cannabis because I've been taking cannabis which meant I didn't need to take prescription drugs. 

 

 

It's incredibly backwards.

m8 I tried citalopram in 2017 then tried sertraline in 2020, was on trt therapy in-between till I developed a blooclot between my liver and stomach in 2019 and was hospitalised for 9 days and then on anticoagulants for 8 months to get rid of the clot, was very scary tbf, but the idea I get out of this to help you on your prescription is:

I tried citalopram and got shit side effects so stopped them after 2 weeks

tried sertraline got shit side effects within 2 weeks so stopped them.

= 2 different meds to combat your illness.

you could easily wrangle the system to suit your needs, sad how it has to be done but needs may

[blackpoolbouncer]

@itsmeithink thanks for the advice mate. This has occurred to me and may be an option. 

Ive been on the constant merry go round of anti depressants with worse side effects than the depression with my ex long enough to know they aren't gonna do me any good. Citralopram was one of them. I forget the rest. 

Could be an idea to get a couple of scripts for anti depressants if for nothing more than to tick a couple if boxes for this. 

 

 

 

Still, it's a chunk of money to hand over but it does offer a small amount of safety and I suppose if the unthinkable shpuld ever happen and the door goes off, medicinal need excuse can't not be used or dismissed. 

 

Certainly opens up a new legal avenue. 

How do police know the weed in your pocket is home grown or prescription? I guess they don't. 

 

 

I'm a bit torn. Every single person/friend or family know what I'm up to and bar the mother in law. Every ones already cool and accepts that that's just me. It's not something I have to hide at all in my daily life and I rarely leave the property. 

 

Got loads I feel like getting off my chest and venting but this probably isn't the place. 

 

Fuck prohibition 

[itsmeithink]

39 minutes ago, blackpoolbouncer said:

@itsmeithink thanks for the advice mate. This has occurred to me and may be an option. 

Ive been on the constant merry go round of anti depressants with worse side effects than the depression with my ex long enough to know they aren't gonna do me any good. Citralopram was one of them. I forget the rest. 

Could be an idea to get a couple of scripts for anti depressants if for nothing more than to tick a couple if boxes for this. 

 

 

 

Still, it's a chunk of money to hand over but it does offer a small amount of safety and I suppose if the unthinkable shpuld ever happen and the door goes off, medicinal need excuse can't not be used or dismissed. 

 

Certainly opens up a new legal avenue. 

How do police know the weed in your pocket is home grown or prescription? I guess they don't. 

 

 

I'm a bit torn. Every single person/friend or family know what I'm up to and bar the mother in law. Every ones already cool and accepts that that's just me. It's not something I have to hide at all in my daily life and I rarely leave the property. 

 

Got loads I feel like getting off my chest and venting but this probably isn't the place. 

 

Fuck prohibition 

 

if you already had citalopram and others prescribed , then you probably already qualify 

if ever u need to vent or need someone with a similar mindset, I only leave my place for absolute nessecities hardly ever for pleasure  , im only a DM away m8

[Pot Luck]

I too am slightly torn about the whole Project Twenty21, on the one hand it would be nice to be able to smoke up without hiding.. 

 

On the other, will i end up trapped in a system? One that destroys any hope of a “mom & pop” style cannabis business (one i’d like to start myself) by signing up for handouts from huge pharmaceutical companies.

 

Are we now in the process of handing over control from the Police to the Corporations?

[itsmeithink]

36 minutes ago, Pot Luck said:

I too am slightly torn about the whole Project Twenty21, on the one hand it would be nice to be able to smoke up without hiding.. 

 

Would be a lovely feeling I bet 

 

36 minutes ago, Pot Luck said:

On the other, will i end up trapped in a system? One that destroys any hope of a “mom & pop” style cannabis business (one i’d like to start myself) by signing up for handouts from huge pharmaceutical companies.

 

who knows m8, but we have to take a step forward at some point imho

 

36 minutes ago, Pot Luck said:

Are we now in the process of handing over control from the Police to the Corporations?

 

Yes we are m8 unfortunately 

[iShouldCoCo]

6 hours ago, itsmeithink said:

 

if you already had citalopram and others prescribed , then you probably already qualify 

if ever u need to vent or need someone with a similar mindset, I only leave my place for absolute nessecities hardly ever for pleasure  , im only a DM away m8

 

Snap! I guess here we are, in a kind of wonky peer support group... I think there are probably a lot of self-identified 'recreational' users who are actually self-medicating for conditions such as depression and anxiety... looking back, I was certainly one. I have only realised I'm a fucking mess in the past couple of years after some life events pushed me to the brink... thank god for my dog and my camera or I suspect I would NEVER leave these four walls.

[twigs]

On 14/09/2020 at 1:31 PM, Diddy said:

 

Im kinda getting the vibe here that Twigs and some others are not really up for "taking one for the team" lol.

 

 

sometimes it better to be on the outside looking in..

 

got this the day before yesterday from a friend

 

 

from an old couple that have been together forever..

 

im not a hero by any stretch, but i’m constantly helping in every way I can, setting up grows for people, info etc, ive been in 3 raids and had weapons pointed at me from both sides all wanting weed

 

I’ve broke my back got a poorly wife (slowly getting better) and a family to look after and work as much as i psychically can.. i can’t afford to through myself on any swords dude.. like you say this is for seriously ill people who have no other options/higher profile because of their debilitating illness..

 

[itsmeithink]

7 hours ago, twigs said:

 

sometimes it better to be on the outside looking in..

 

got this the day before yesterday from a friend

 

 

from an old couple that have been together forever..

 

im not a hero by any stretch, but i’m constantly helping in every way I can, setting up grows for people, info etc, ive been in 3 raids and had weapons pointed at me from both sides all wanting weed

 

You are doing yourself short m8, I reading between the lines ( hope ive read you right through posts ive seen) see you are on the breadline, and despite this continue to use your knowledge to help others, what else defines a hero but the selfless gratitude of offering your knowledge to help others for no reward 

 

I’ve broke my back got a poorly wife (slowly getting better) and a family to look after and work as much as i psychically can.. i can’t afford to through myself on any swords dude..

 

I seriously wish you and your wife and all your family all the best and hope karma rewards you with the same as you offer others.

 

like you say this is for seriously ill people who have no other options/higher profile because of their debilitating illness..

 

 

im not seriously ill I don't think tbf ,but I do gratefully qualify and have been accepted to receive flower and oils at my cost.

I just have a mental health issue which is "anxiety/depression" that really Messes with my day to day family/life activities.

I have to be honest and say they are mainly self caused, as I drink wine to relax and sleep and this exasperates the hangover/anxiety the next day,

its a self driven constant loop caused by me and me only ( rows =have a drink, insomnia=drink, relax = drink ,it goes on )

but I have been unable to find decent stable canna meds to help me with this problem despite growing my own twice,

by the time im used to the effects im out in a caravan with no way to toke up, so back on the wine 

my situation is a nightmare for me but a dream for someone else, we rent our house out from April till end of October as airbnb to earn an income so my grow time is limited big time, especially when I had to remodel the new house which took 2 years plus.

 

ive got some decent hashes ( red Lebanese ,Maroc double zero, royal afghani ) that may help but im stuck as to smoke them as we are in a 2 family bubble in next door caravans  ( in laws ). and they don't really do cannabis at all its quite frowned upon

its really all courses for all horses tbf, im hoping/betting all my chips that once they see im getting it legally they change their mind on consumption but who knows 

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by itsmeithink

[twigs]

thanks for your kind words @itsmeithink  

 

ah..im just an agitator dude that doesn’t know when to stop   

 

it’s people like joolz and jeff or anyone that have put their actual name to the cause that should be applauded 

 

cheers mate   

 

 

[Clean Green]

This feels like landmark stuff. It may be that I tend to frequent mainly the outdoor section and some of the news and rarely venture elsewhere into other uk420 realms. This feels almost like a cusp of something massive though, a shift into the new unknown, like the scales are at (no pun intended) tipping point. Peoples dedication to the one common cause is beautiful and poignant to the times.
I signed up to the cancard today. It feels right, a little risky but morally sound to me. I do qualify, been using herb since age 16, on and off - mostly off! last 8 years more medicinal than I realised. A recent diagnosis has made all the pennies drop and brought sanity to my guerilla antics obsession of self sufficiency. Prohibition makes you feel an alien in your own world when all along our ancestors have used healing plants for 99.9 % of our collective past. It’s happening, haphazard and with the expected financial twists and turns yeah, but at least the initial rumblings of the decrim’ monsters belly are audible 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Clean Green

[Mystery_420]

I'm thinking I might go down this avenue

Over the last year my pain has been getting worse, been given 3 different  pain prescriptions, and the dr has said if my next one doesn't work they're going to be looking at opiods.

I know weed helps, it's why I smoke it. but I've only ever been able to get small amounts (which is why i am here and want to grow), and since March due to my health issues, i can't obtain it any more (I'm not going out and now have nobody where I can get it from).

 

My concern is that by getting prescribed weed (which I think i would qualify for) is that I'll get put on some sort of list for some inspection which will mean I can't grow weed. Or make it more likely my place will get looked at?

Is this me just over worrying?

 

What are the actual rules if it gets prescribed? For instance, lets say I get 30g per month for £150 (I can't really afford this, but would prefer this to opioids) and I've got 6oz or something in my house from a grow, would this be ok or will the police assume anything over 30g is unreasonable?