SYZYGY Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Some people are happy using what they know works for them, others are keen to experiment to improve. I'm a luddite at the best of times and tend to romanticise old-school ways of doing things. I'd feel a bit affronted by someone telling me their new-fangled way was somehow better than what I was doing. As I've got older though I'm more open to getting the most from my endeavours with new technology. Vaping for example - smoking joints worked just fine but there seemed a more efficient and tasty way to enjoy my weed. I invested, tested, compared, and then made a conclusion. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Mix Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 @dubitup here’s a thread on it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigs Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 hours ago, LA LUNA said: The threads called LED vs HPS pros and cons. Not make twigs upgrade by force sorry 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbivore9 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Has anyone here had any of these new improved panels in constant use and without failure for the 3+ years needed to recoup the outlay yet?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenvigilante Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 25/04/2020 at 7:13 PM, erbivore9 said: Has anyone here had any of these new improved panels in constant use and without failure for the 3+ years needed to recoup the outlay yet?. cant do 3 years bro but have boards going over 2 years old without any apparent drop in performance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetCaravan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 24/04/2020 at 8:27 AM, Grassisgreener said: I think this is the right catergory I use hps myself but LED looks interesting what’s the pros and cons to them both I’ve seen some good grows from led and hps My kingbrite boards crush my old HPS and my initial burple/MH setup. Cost me about 700 for 1200W. I'd say LED is better, but loads of old school growers still prefer HPS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeyezman Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Pro: HPS has low barrier to entry. A digital ballast can have a dial selection for 400/600/1000watt bulbs. The flexibility helps with temps. In late summer/fall use 400W then by time bloom is here, so is winter, so the 1000w bulb goes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetCaravan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Redeyezman said: Pro: HPS has low barrier to entry. A digital ballast can have a dial selection for 400/600/1000watt bulbs. The flexibility helps with temps. In late summer/fall use 400W then by time bloom is here, so is winter, so the 1000w bulb goes in. A gavita pro 1000e costs about 530. 2 600w Ali boards cost 500-700 depending on what you want, with Cree, without etc. LED is cheaper if you use your head and source them wisely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenvigilante Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Redeyezman said: Pro: HPS has low barrier to entry. A digital ballast can have a dial selection for 400/600/1000watt bulbs. The flexibility helps with temps. In late summer/fall use 400W then by time bloom is here, so is winter, so the 1000w bulb goes in. thats what i love about the leds. u can dim them right down to 10% and anywhere upto 100% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simple Jack Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 For small scale grows, LEDs are a no brainer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeyezman Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 6 hours ago, PlanetCaravan said: A gavita pro 1000e costs about 530. 2 600w Ali boards cost 500-700 depending on what you want, with Cree, without etc. LED is cheaper if you use your head and source them wisely. I wasn't thinking Gavita.... I was thinking tradition single end HPS..... I paid $200 only for mine and still going after 5 years and 8 full grows. I forget how much more tech EU has US for at home grows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanbuds Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just my 2 pence, I've just started my first grow with 2 x LEDs telos 10 (300w each) which I just upgraded with the new kit out to make it a pro, much nicer light on the eye now btw, not grown for years and only had experience with hps, it's been a double learning curve this time. A big pro for me is the light is so much easier to see what's going on with the girls, it's early days(1st week flower) but I would say they are good as 2 x 600 hps progress wise. Heating has been a thing though, had to get electric blanket and then a heater too and I'm indoors. Got a heater from a well known hover company it's expensive but it's amazing. Totally didn't do enough homework on my lights and I hadn't found you guys then but it's all learning hey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snypie Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I have no luck with Led. I bought a 375w led strip kit two years ago. Since then all grows fails. I can't grow a plant more than 1 month. Deficiency and all shit appears. I will trash it and going back to cmh. I am very sad that i lost 2 years and around 3000 euros for new systems, seeds etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Military Grade Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Snypie said: I have no luck with Led. I bought a 375w led strip kit two years ago. Since then all grows fails. I can't grow a plant more than 1 month. Deficiency and all shit appears. I will trash it and going back to cmh. I am very sad that i lost 2 years and around 3000 euros for new systems, seeds etc. Sounds more like user errors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snypie Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sgt Smash said: Sounds more like user errors. For example? I run it half power and above 60-70 cm from the plants. Nowdays i used luxmeter also. For seedlings 15000 lux and increased to 19000. But after 2-3 weeks always crispy leaves and no growth. No matter it is soil coco or hydro. With cmh i always get good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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