Dianfem/Intense Nutrients Comp - Blueberry Cookies and Orange Juice. Budget Compost Grow.

[2Fat2EatThat]

Welcome to the space edition.

 

 

 

Hey Chaps,

 

You may have seen my low level mental meltdown in here and other places about my fall and intense vertigo issue which has seriously fucked me over although I'm getting used to it a little now.

 

Basically as soon as I move enough to need any balance or at more than snail speed I throw up. All my medication levels have been fluctuating as I'm not keeping them down very well making life even more enjoyable for me.

 

It's time to admit that most of the physical work I require is done by the wife as I'm not really capable but over the last few weeks since my fall she has been an angel,thanks Mrs 2fat. (shes far from fat unlike me)

 

 

 

 

This update is a week late,apologies, but its taken me that long to get it done in bits,laid down doing it when I can. I'm so glad I started using a standard layout update as it saves time. Its being tweaked each time but it will settle with more use.

 

Here it is then,update time - 

 

Date of stats- Friday 29th November.

 

Time of day - 15.37

 

Grow day - 34

 

Flower day ------

 

Light schedule - 18/6

 

Temperature

 

Lights on - 25.9c

 

Lights off -20.3c

 

Humidity - 52%

 

Intense Nutrients Organix per litre -

 

 

Amount given - 350ml every 3 days

Preventative/supportive foliar feeds -

 

Seaweed Extract misted @1ml per litre once every week.

 

Neem Emuslion misted.

 

Top Dressing of Diatemacious Earth.

Update details -

 

Having pulled the runt plant from last update there have been no dramas. It has been replaced by a new seedling but shes gone straight into her final pot to stay with her group. All the plants really fired into life and have developed good roots so have now potted them up to final pots.

 

Here are Orange Juice 1's happy roots -

 

 

 

 

Each new pot recieved 1tsp of OG granules-

 

 

 

 

Here she is all done -

 

 

 

 

First night in new pots -

 

 

 

 

Roll call of plants,Orange Juice first -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blueberry Cookies next -

 

 

 

Replacement-

 

 

 

 

Training progress -

 

Many plants have now been topped down to one node, like this -

 

 

 

Im choosing a node on each plant hat looks solid with good connections to the main stem, not always the first one. Using an equal pair of branches to train from will ensure shared priority on the plants resources providing equal sized colas.

 

 

 

 

Next training step -

 

The pair of branches from the chosen node will be topped and in time topped again to yield 4 colas on each side. I cannot explain the bondage that will happen without pictures, I've tried and it confused me, but, is actually quite simple with pics.

 

 

 

That's it for today and I really hope to be feeling a little better by next week as this is exhausting.

 

Have a great weekend folks.

 

All I want for xmas is a better year next year but for now it's another afternoon feeling like I have a tequila hangover,nice.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by 2Fat2EatThat

[highway_017]

25 minutes ago, 2Fat2EatThat said:

Welcome to the space edition.

 

 

 

Hey Chaps,

 

You may have seen my low level mental meltdown in here and other places about my fall and intense vertigo issue which has seriously fucked me over although I'm getting used to it a little now.

 

Basically as soon as I move enough to need any balance or at more than snail speed I throw up. All my medication levels have been fluctuating as I'm not keeping them down very well making life even more enjoyable for me.

 

It's time to admit that most of the physical work I require is done by the wife as I'm not really capable but over the last few weeks since my fall she has been an angel,thanks Mrs 2fat. (shes far from fat unlike me)

 

 

 

 

This update is a week late,apologies, but its taken me that long to get it done in bits,laid down doing it when I can. I'm so glad I started using a standard layout update as it saves time. Its being tweaked each time but it will settle with more use.

 

Here it is then,update time - 

 

Date of stats- Friday 29th November.

 

Time of day - 15.37

 

Grow day - 34

 

Flower day ------

 

Light schedule - 18/6

 

Temperature

 

Lights on - 25.9c

 

Lights off -20.3c

 

Humidity - 52%

 

Intense Nutrients Organix per litre -

 

 

Amount given - 350ml every 3 days

Preventative/supportive foliar feeds -

 

Seaweed Extract misted @1ml per litre once every week.

 

Neem Emuslion misted.

 

Top Dressing of Diatemacious Earth.

Update details -

 

Having pulled the runt plant from last update there have been no dramas. It has been replaced by a new seedling but shes gone straight into her final pot to stay with her group. All the plants really fired into life and have developed good roots so have now potted them up to final pots.

 

Here are Orange Juice 1's happy roots -

 

 

 

 

Each new pot recieved 1tsp of OG granules-

 

 

 

 

Here she is all done -

 

 

 

 

First night in new pots -

 

 

 

 

Roll call of plants,Orange Juice first -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blueberry Cookies next -

 

 

 

Replacement-

 

 

 

 

Training progress -

 

Many plants have now been topped down to one node, like this -

 

 

 

Im choosing a node on each plant hat looks solid with good connections to the main stem, not always the first one. Using an equal pair of branches to train from will ensure shared priority on the plants resources providing equal sized colas.

 

 

 

 

Next training step -

 

The pair of branches from the chosen node will be topped and in time topped again to yield 4 colas on each side. I cannot explain the bondage that will happen without pictures, I've tried and it confused me, but, is actually quite simple with pics.

 

 

 

That's it for today and I really hope to be feeling a little better by next week as this is exhausting.

 

Have a great weekend folks.

 

All I want for xmas is a better year next year but for now it's another afternoon feeling like I have a tequila hangover,nice.

 

 

Looking Fab.. if you don't mind some questions how old are they and what's the benefit of topping them like that?

sorry to hear about your health mate. hope you can get it under control and it isn't causing you too much pain or discomfort. If you only vape.. might be worth getting a glass piece? I used to vape but moved
on to a glass piece. in my case a decent glass bong and i find i get more high TBH. but i really liked a volcano etc although that's out my price range.

[Amnesia]

Looking good in here @2Fat2EatThat They not hanging around for sure.

[Dinafem-Mark]

On 29/11/2019 at 1:33 PM, Intense Nutrients Matt said:

Hi bro don't worry about weekly updates etc your health and wellbeing are far more important 

Sounds like your having a proper shit time of it and I know from my missus how disabling  the side effects from upping medications can be 

Hope you can get used to the new doses quickly and I'm always here if you need to chat or vent etc 

Anything I can do to help just let me know bro I'm only ever a pm away 

All the best

Matt 

 

I second that

 

@2Fat2EatThat If it turns into a self help thread that's cool mate. I'm sure other members have had similar issues so if you need to let it out do

 

Better out than in

 

I'll drop you an email buddy Just to catch up and see how your doing 

 

All the best

 

Mark..

Edited December 2, 2019 by Dinafem-Mark

[2Fat2EatThat]

@Dinafem-Mark I'm doing better mate,sorry for my dramatics over the last few weeks it just all went nuts for me,you know how it goes. Take it easy man.

 

 

Hey People,

 

Hows everyone?

 

I hope everyones well and keeping chilled as we roll on into xmas.

 

I tried to leave my medical life out of 420 but when every single part of my life is affected by it, including my growing, it's hard to make up any old excuse as to why I've vanished for a couple of weeks when it's the last thing I want to do.

 

But, Im slowly getting myself back on track after my "episode" and feeling a bit better than I did last week thank f**k. I hate it when my body let's me down as its invariably when I need it most like coming up to christmas or getting stuck into this competition for instance.

 

My methods may be left field and it may look like I'm almost messing about at times but I take this way to seriously and it always gets twisted up and obsessive as most things in my life do.

 

I've faded away from 420 before through ill health and family crap but this time round it's all on me and my times now 100% my own to do what makes me happy and growing makes me happy so let's get on shall we.

 

How the world has looked to me over the last two weeks -

 

 

 

Update time.

Date - Wednesday 11th December.

 

Time of update 12.54pm

 

Grow day - 47

 

Light schedule - 18/6

 

Temperature Lights on - 27.1c
                       Lights off - 20.5c

 

Humidity - 53%

 

Intense Nute type and levels per litre -

 

 

Amounts given -  450ml every 3 to 4 days 

 

 

Preventative foliar feeds -

 

Neem Emulsion mist.

 

Epsom Salts mist at 1 flat teaspoon pr litre.

 

 

Update details -

 

As youll see in the photos below everything's healthy and settling into the big pots. 

 

They do look a bit tortured but its mid training and will come good.

 

I have an issue to report and that is I've had a visit by Fungus Gnats. The fight back has begun and is detailed below.

 

You may be aware I had a runt BBC that needed replacing. I got in early with a replacement but its quite a way behind as it turned out. 

 

So I've decided to hold her and the smallest of the Orange Juice back for my next grow giving me one of each strain. 

 

As I mentioned a while back that diary will be called 'Growing the Railway' and will make a different partner diary to this one.

 

Now I have those two plants vegging I can start it quite soon.

 

So from this point on there will be four plants rolling through this diary now.

Accompanying images  -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Training progress -

 

Nothing new has happened as yet other than continued defoliation and a little wire spreader to hold a gap.

 

They're only a couple of weeks into deep 11 litre pots so growth will be sluggish up top for a while.

 

When the time comes I will be crossing the four flowering branches back across to their opposing one and holding them like that with some bondage.

 

Done like this the plants take up as little area around them as possible giving me maximum number space. 

 

Growing from one node also means each bud will receieve equal resources during the grow yielding even sized colas.

 

It's just a bit different but will become clear soon enough with a picture or two.

 

The two plants that are being held back for the next diary -

 

 

 

 

Its now time for hardcore bug fighting!!!

 

To try and stamp on them whilst they're still on the beach head I'm going in guns blazing and using everything in my armoury.

 

Here goes....

 

The first step In my battle with Fungus Gnats is to dress each pot quite heavily with Diatemacious Earth. It's safe to use it like a layer of garden sand as its inert but will break down in time releasing a good form of Silica that's usable by the plant. It also retains moisture extremely well and helps keep things aerated.

 

My second move in battle is to sit a small tub of water,cider vinegar, sugar and washing up liquid in each pot.

 

The sugar and vinegar draws the gnats in and the washing liquid kills them as soon as they drink.

 

Third on my list of Gnat WMD's is good old fashioned yellow sticky bug paper available literally every where.

The fourth front of skirmish is to make sticky bug killers.

 

The tutorial for which is next  --

 

Many types of bugs use the main stem as a highway up and down it for all sorts of bohemian Aphid frivolities, the rampant little bastards. 

 

 I use a little neat Neem oil routinely on young stems but If bugs show up, once the stems are a good size I make these sticky traps now.

 

I use a layer of tin foil to protect the stem from being in contact with the paste,not that it should create any issues its just to be safe.

 

The ingredients.

 

It requires neat Neem oil, Diatemacious Earth, Icing Sugar and Fairy liquid with some plain old cooking tin foil and a small plate or tray- 

 

 

 

 

Cut a piece of tin foil, with enough width to cover the main stem from compost surface to the first node and long enough to go round the main stem 5 or 6 times, like this -

 

 

 

 

Wipe Neem Oil totally over 1 side of the tin foil and put it to one side.

Place a little oil on the stem itself,just enough to make it a little sticky and no more. Carefully wrap the tin foil around the stem building up a good few layers.

 

Once done gently squeeze it to better fit it to the shape of your stem, not to hard though,like this -

 

 

 

The tin foil is carefully wrapped so it can expand if its needed by the plant.

 

The paste recipe is -

 

 

Stir that really well, I use a plastic plant label, until it's totally mixed and smooth,like an epoxy resin or fish paste..... ahh 70's fishness mmmm  

 

Lets call it Neem paste as we carry on then. Here it is all mixed -

 

 

 

 

Using the plant label, I coat all of the tin foil with the paste. Spread it liberally until it looks like this -

 

 

 

 

 

I've now made a trap that will not only passively catch any critter climbing over it but because it has sugar in it will attract any flying bugs who end up snared by the oil, being slowly torn to shreds by the Diatemacious Earth as they're finished of by the evil Fairy Liquid.

 

Because its oil based it's surprisingly water resistant and will take some good splashes or mists. It can be replaced easily enough but will last a few weeks with a light infestation.

 

The plate of left over Neem Paste has also been laid out in my veg space. In a day or two I will go photo it and report back to show its effectiveness.

 

That's all I have for today but I'd like to finish of by wishing you all a happy christmas.

 

Enjoy my intensely cheesy xmas gif -

 

[Intense Nutrients Matt]

Love the Xmas gif

Looks like your going to war with a proper potion 

 invaders must die

Hope you get everything killed off and soils all happy again soon bro

All the best mate 

Matt 

 

[Dinafem-Mark]

On 11/12/2019 at 9:29 PM, Intense Nutrients Matt said:

Looks like your going to war with a proper potion 

 invaders must die

 

It looks like he's well prepped for way brother 

 

On 11/12/2019 at 2:58 PM, 2Fat2EatThat said:

sorry for my dramatics over the last few weeks it just all went nuts for me,you know how it goes

 

We all get a rough few days from time to time mate. Never say sorry, nice to see you back and getting creative 

 

@vince noir rock n roll star This ones right up your street buddy, tin foil hats in play

 

@2Fat2EatThat Really nice to see you back mate

 

All the best

 

Mark..

[vince noir rock n roll star]

[Dinafem-Mark]

4 minutes ago, vince noir rock n roll star said:

 

 

All the best

 

Mark..

[highway_017]

What is going on in here?

[2Fat2EatThat]

 

Hey People,

 

Here we are then 1 week from Christmas and nearing 1 week of conservatism. I'm not sure if that's good or bad but time will tell.

 

My initial thoughts on Intenses products.

 

 I've so far used them all at suggested levels 99.9% issue free. The .1% you ask? I have the tiniest amount of tip burn on Orange Juice number one ,its barely there and shes the only one with it so I imagine it's a slight pheno thing and shes a little sensitive.  

 

Many grow products on the market are routinely used at half suggested doses. To be able to use products "exactly as it says on the tin" makes for a far easier nutrient system to follow for many growers. 

 

Other than that miniscule bit of burn, I'm pleased to report that the products have been excellent in use, plants are healthy from stem to tip, foliage is a lovely colour and root development is next level.

 

 

 

 

The one and only problem area for me is that I'm a permanent "dont have two penny's to rub together" grower which means I'll never be able to buy them as regrettebly its excellent quality is matched by its price. 

 

So if you can afford them,buy them! (and buy me some for xmas)

 

 

 

 

Let's dive into some growing,here comes the update - 

Date - Thursday 18th December.

 

Time - 11.32am

 

Grow day -55

 

Light schedule - 18/6

 

Light timings - on 2am off 8pm

 

Temperature Lights on - 26.6c
                       Lights off - 20.9c

 

Humidity - 51%

 

Intense Nutrients Organix per litre -

 

 

 

 

Amount given - 400ml every 4 days

Weekly foliar feeds -

 

Neem emulsion.

 

Epsom Salts @ 1 teaspoon a litre.

 

 

 

Update grow details -

 

Growth has picked up now and I have fine roots at the bottom of my deep pots,good work Intense Foundation!

 

Remember, I have 4 plants in here now and the other two are crossing over into my next diary after this one.

 

I've dealt the Fungus Gnats a decent death blow with my myriad of traps and have also re-deployed  a Fungas Gnat WMD.

 

Having forgotten most of what I learnt before my break from growing. I suddenly remembered about my hoover bug destroyer. I take my standard hoover with the small nozzle fitted, fix a piece of old tights over the end and duct tape it on.

 

 

 

 

The covering means you will suck up the gnats but wont rip the shit out of every fan leaf it goes near,trust me it does

 

Now I'm up and about more again. I open my space two or three times a day and quickly heave the plants out asap, bugs and all, before shutting it again to stop re-entry.

 

As soon as they're out, I fire up the hoover to seek and destroy any flying or crawling Gnats who break cover.

 

I then shake the plant and tap the pots to stir up any others hiding and its job done.

 

 

 

 

Once the plants are done, I open the space and go through it with the hoover picking up randoms.

 

Just make sure you put a bit of tissue over the end of the nozzle when you switch the hoover off or you'll swear alot!!

 

By constantly removing mature Gnats you interrupt the life cycle pretty well and over a few weeks deal with the problem nearly entirely.

 

I'm currently a week into hoovering and as I said above numbers have fallen sharply.

 

 

 

 

Update Images -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Training progress -

 

I know I've said in my last couple of updates that my training twist will be in place,but, as you've seen in my photos no training has taken place.

 

I've been neck deep in my shitty life and  christmas organisation,as I'm sure you have to. All will become clear over the holidays when I can sit back,chew a few walnuts,unwrap some quality street and drink even more cups of tea than normal at which point I will be on the case.

 

At least they've had a solid veg that should reward me with a good crop.

 

 

 

 

There we are then,I'd like to wish you all a happy christmas in whichever way you celebrate. I dont celebrate I just feel relief that I dont have to think about it anymore. 

 

I've had a shit storm of a year or two and I've found myself in some places even Hawkins Radiation couldnt escape from.

 

Luckily, I discovered a crack of light to head towards in the shape of my wife and family,or what's left of them at least and I had a pathway back.

 

Take care of you and yours and enjoy life,it really doesnt last long.

 

Respect and best regards to you all.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by 2Fat2EatThat

[vince noir rock n roll star]

crackin stuff 2fat ..keep on keeping on .

[2Fat2EatThat]

Firstly,apologies @Dinafem-Mark and @Intense Nutrients Matt I had a bit of a break, actually enjoyed xmas and time slipped by. I'm feeling quite a bit better now and am back in the game for 2020!!

 

Normal weekly service is resumed.

 

 

Brothers of the 20's,

 

Here we are again.

 

Hopefully you've all had a good festive break without dramas.

 

Personally,mine was pretty good. My messed up body has returned to some sort of normality and I'm planning for a whole years growing starting from today so let's get on it.

 

This has become a data dump more than a normal update as I've got a little behind with it but am back on track from today.

 

 

 

 

So, Its Wednesday 1st January,I've just destroyed a monster roast Beef dinner, and heres my first update of 2020.

 

Time - 11.32am

 

Grow day - 79

 

Light schedule - 18/6

 

Temperature Lights on - 27.1c
                        Lights off - 21.0c

 

Humidity - 56%

 

Intense Nutrients Organix used -

 

 

Amount - 400ml every 8-9 days or as far apart as I can bear to push it. 

 

As an extra counter measure to fight the Fungus Gnats I've been running an extreme dry wet cycle for the last 3 weeks. Gnats and their larvae need and like moisture to live and grow. So by drying pots right out to the max it not only encourages good root growth but helps to control Gnat numbers.

 

Combined with the super weapon hoover, sprays, traps and swatters it's part of a 100% natural defense,it just takes a while to get on top of the little gits.

 

Foliar feeds - Epsom Salts @1tsp per litre.

                        Neem Oil Emulsion.

 

 

Update details -

 

As part of my budget based grow Im flowering under two base model Mars Hydro LED lights. I've now fitted them to my hanger and the plants are now vegging under them.

 

 I removed my much loved Blackdogled to make sure I stick to the plan and dont get a little tempted for a boost in the last couple of weeks of flower! Hope your listening Mars hydro

 

Welcome to a .......

 

 

 

It looks like a tent but is infact the fossilised remains of one stapled round the inside of my timber built space.

 

Update images -

 

They look battered but bear with people,bear with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This Blueberry Cookie was way to stocky to torture it my way so I just topped a couple of times and am letting it roll. Looks brutal but will be good,honest it will!.

 

 

 

Training progress -

 

My "technique" starts with defoliation,rolls into supercropping with hst and near total defoliation to finish. 

 

The goal is to have 2 flowers in each corner yielding 8 equal sized flowers from a plant that's as compact as possible. 

 

I use a 5cm split piece of silicon hose and zipties or string to hold the supercropped branches in place. The hose holds them firmly to set in place whilst allowing them space to thicken and grow during flowering. 

 

Tying alone doesnt work well as it needs to be replaced regularly to allow for growth and gets darn annoying.

 

Mini tutorial - 

 

1 - Select the right place to supercrop so that when folded and fixed in place the branch sits with the chosen pair of flower sites correctly at each end. Then defoliate below your chosen flowering branches  -

 

 

 

 

As I have stupidly weak hands and let the plant go a bit to long. I needed some extra manipulation to soften the stem. I carefully used pliers to loosen the fibres before bending which worked really well as it turns out - 

 

 

 

 

 3 - Fold the pinched branch across to its opposing branch so the selected pair of flower sites are at each end -

 

 

 

 

4 - Roughly measure the length of hose,cut it and split down the side before clipping it over the branches and zip tying in place with your chosen flower sites sticking out -

 

 

 

 

5 - Remove most of the remaining foliage other than the chosen flowering branches and a couple of fans for comfort. They will be removed later and you should have a plant that looks as abused as this -

 

 

 

 

 

Once theyve grown a touch they'll need a little training to level the flowering branches up but that's all the proper training done.

 

The plant is now symmetrically trained and will supply those resources evenly to each flower.The supercropped bend will trigger a hormone response to aid repair that will boost things further and strengthen the structure.

 

Other than yielding equal sized colas. Using this technique keeps the main bulk of the plant and its flowers within the rim of the pot rather than hanging out the sides that takes up so much more space and is like controlling a drunk Octopus at times.

 

 

Not looking so battered today -

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks complicated but it really isnt. It's a couple of toppings, some squishing, bending,tying and trimming.

 

Next step - leave to veg for a couple of weeks to arrange the flower sites then flip, no biggy.

 

Happy new year, peace and respect to you all.

 

Oooooh glitchy -

 

 

 

Edited January 1, 2020 by 2Fat2EatThat

[Intense Nutrients Matt]

glad to see you back and in better health bro

some brutal training going on but it will pay dividends I am sure mate

thanks for the update to the diary and good luck in 2020

atb 

matt 

[Dinafem-Mark]

On 01/01/2020 at 4:34 PM, 2Fat2EatThat said:

Firstly,apologies @Dinafem-Mark and @Intense Nutrients Matt I had a bit of a break, actually enjoyed xmas and time slipped by. I'm feeling quite a bit better now and am back in the game for 2020!!

 

No apologies needed brother 

 

It's been the festive season and by the sound of things your coming back refreshed 

 

Starting to get interesting in here with that aggressive training work, interesting times ahead 

 

Happy New Year mate and best wishes for 2020. It's going to be a great year

 

All the best

 

Mark..