phenom Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We need to be more like other countries and change the law on cannabis not only will it boost tourism /tax and if we allow weed shops it could help with jobs BUT our MPs refuse to even talk about it or ignore your messages or letters about it. Who is STOPPING it is it big pharmaceutical who use CBD in their medicine and would lose millions if you could buy CBD products in the shops or do MPs NOT want to be know as the one that pushed for cannabis change. I know many cannabis campaigners that have marched, done petitions, held cannabis picnics to help raise how cannabis helps with both psychical and mental health ( me being one of them ) and it would be a lot BETTER then alcohol or tobacco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blerie420 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 An underlying factor on a lot of the points is our cultural standpoint on change. Sure we have outlying examples that disprove my point, but there's a reason on the world stage were seen as archaic, draconian (no I didn't get a big word calendar for xmas lol) and stuffy. It's a big part of our islands image. Not just me personally, but a lot of people I know who dare to freely think are often cast out in our society. We can speak English and get by in most other countries thanks to colonialism, the fact that we continue to do so, is because of our indignation of having to accept ideas outside of our perceive norm as a society. That's not the whole picture to why it's still illegal but I personally feel it plays a part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 @phenom I totally agree that the pharmaceutrical indusrty probably has a large part to play but it's not because of cbd, you can actually buy cbd products now quite easily. THC is the one they don't like, it could cost them a fortune as it can help so many ailments, they'd be fucked. Even the legal thc markets try to tell you prescribed weed is ok but not the stuff you can buy illegally. I suppose they're correct in a way, there's some nasty weed out there. That's why we should all grow our own if possible. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hole in the clouds Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 hours ago, KC said: @phenom I totally agree that the pharmaceutrical indusrty probably has a large part to play but it's not because of cbd, you can actually buy cbd products now quite easily. THC is the one they don't like, it could cost them a fortune as it can help so many ailments, they'd be fucked. Even the legal thc markets try to tell you prescribed weed is ok but not the stuff you can buy illegally. I suppose they're correct in a way, there's some nasty weed out there. That's why we should all grow our own if possible. It costs an extortionate amount of money and about 10 years to bring a molecule to market. You then have the patent on that molecule for ten years before other companies can start using it. Cannabis pharmaceuticals either need to be a different molecule or some unique form of delivery for them to be of any interest. Only extremely rich people like bill gates will invest the money required for a non profit medicine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenom Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 13 hours ago, KC said: @phenom I totally agree that the pharmaceutrical indusrty probably has a large part to play but it's not because of cbd, you can actually buy cbd products now quite easily. THC is the one they don't like, it could cost them a fortune as it can help so many ailments, they'd be fucked. Even the legal thc markets try to tell you prescribed weed is ok but not the stuff you can buy illegally. I suppose they're correct in a way, there's some nasty weed out there. That's why we should all grow our own if possible. @KC we see many shops or places online that says it has CBD in it's product or super strength and you're right it's the THC that is missing and that would make a difference and i would love to walk into a shop and buy edibles with THC in them. I have messaged my MP/ Home office even the PM about changing the law on cannabis but heard nothing i would love to go to the shop and buy the weed i need BUT i don't think it will ever happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Volteface is a PR outfit with a 'disruption' methodology, who's mission is - to me, at least - not exactly what you'd call user centric (that's us). They state quite clearly they are about the interests of the 'cannabis industry'. Their funding model is not donations, as it used to be, but industry sponsorship. The entire tone is in line with that. Not for us, but for them - to fill their own pockets and that of their clients. They may be all for lagalised cannabis, a lot of self interested cunts are these days. "...We also wanted to do something which could help address the challenges faced by the medical cannabis sector and utilise our content platform which has continued to go from strength to strength in terms of its reach and SEO. Structurally we also wanted a company which could grow and scale through investment and procurement of new work (something which was impossible with the old donation model and structure)." https://volteface.me/heritage-and-evolution-of-volteface/ "In this new and ever evolving environment you need services which are dynamic, flexible and most importantly - can bridge the gap between you and your stakeholders." https://www.voltefacestrategy.com/ It has a smell. 80/20 - it can fucking do one. Nah. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) "Clickbait is a text or a thumbnail link that is designed to attract attention and to entice users to follow ("click") that link and read, view, or listen to the linked piece of online content, being typically deceptive, sensationalized, or otherwise misleading.[2][3][4] A "teaser" aims to exploit the "curiosity gap", providing just enough information to make readers of news websites curious, but not enough to satisfy their curiosity without clicking through to the linked content. Clickbait headlines often add an element of dishonesty, using enticements that do not accurately reflect the content being delivered.[5][6][7] The "-bait" suffix makes an analogy with fishing, where a hook is disguised by an enticement (bait), presenting the impression to the fish that it is a desirable thing to swallow.[8] " We should probably just keep swimming when facing headline like this one. It's not even trying that hard. Edited January 23 by j.o.i.n.t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistYGr33n Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 All valid points from 1-7. The smell is a good point especially, not so much for the growing but for the smoking of it in public places, town centres and the like. You go to a pub though and it hardly bothers folks. My social club lets us smoke it outside in the smoking area. Cannabis use and cultivation is probably on the rise IMO. We have social media to thank for that and it cannot be controlled or effected negatively by other media sources. The daily mail or the sunday times dont go on facebook or instagram and shitpost on cannabis user/breeders profiles. Theres alot more people young and old who use social media daily and the news there tends to be alot more positive these days. Cannabis is now endorsed by celebrities, is now a clothing brand and all the new medicines and remedies add up to waves that cannot simply be ignored by people. The fact that its legal in america and soon to be other countries would soon make the uk look draconian in regards to cannabis. With all that said i think we are a long way from the common man/woman being able to grow their own crop. I think that when it comes it will be in the form of strict regulation, licence to be grown only by companies within the medical markets and sold to businesses of the same markets. Access to cannabis for medical uses to be through GP approval only. I know this will be seen as a contradiction but there is a part of me that doesnt want it legalised. I want the criminal convictions for cultivation and possession gone, for sure but im afraid of what could happen to the cannabis industry if we get in bed with these fuckers. They come in with their rubber stamps and red tape wanting their pound of flesh. Brexit was thought to be a good move for the uk and look how that turned out. Imagine, for example, they say you can grow but only 1 plant per quarter (annual), it can only be of a certain size and the yield must be handed over to a dispensery so a trained medical expert can administer your dose to you that is considered "safe" and beneficial for your medicinal needs. Failure to comply with these terms will come in the form of you losing your right to cultivate, fraud in relation to incorrect information submitted if it has been grown outside of the stated parameters and possible criminal convictions. Now you could call that paranoia but having been on the recieving end of the filth and of their friends, it pays to be paranoid these days. I am a firm believer in being careful of what i wish for. This is only my opinion. MistY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Green Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The world's moving but gov aren't. Most folk are with the world, not with gov and so social acceptability is happening regardless. Re-legalisation is a global them and It's getting comedy watching them drag their feet in the UK due to grubby fingers in the other pies. No need to fuck them anymore. Just laugh at their corruption showing them up and get on with your life. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) This keeps bumping/staying up I keep posting. ...I more aim to be a generalist, so if there are errors someone with more specialist knowledge on these matters sees, in terms of the point being made, I welcome correction Last year there were some changes. Volteface changed it's company status from a 'CIC' to a 'Ltd'(by shares) (put https:// infront of the below to go to page. It's companies house.) find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11539975/filing-history Quote "A Community Interest Company (CIC) is a limited company, with special additional features, created for the use of people who want to conduct a business or other activity for community benefit, and not purely for private advantage." (C&P from .gov) Quote Limited by shares Limited by shares companies are usually businesses that make a profit. This means the company: is legally separate from the people who run it has separate finances from your personal ones has shares and shareholders can keep any profits it makes after paying tax (C&P from .gov) I see this manipulative shit, the OP, as symptomatic of this change.... Director LTD need only think of the Company, it's bottom line and certain other blah in terms of it's existence. Not a lot else. They are saying 'jump' and the more you post and share, the more you tacitly reply 'how high'. That feeling, the rage/irritation, is being farmed for their benefit, and that of their client base. Not ours. Common trick, these days.... I'm not a fan. I think how we do things - ethics - matter. I do no care if I am alone in that. Edited January 24 by j.o.i.n.t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashslag Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The media is generally shit when it comes to cannabis, but I do notice that when local police forces post on the socials that they've busted a grow operation, the vast majority of comments are in favour of cannabis and are quick to point out the huge waste of time and resources when it comes to busting growers. I think as generations change, so too will attitudes alongside. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollenlover Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 There will be a generational shift in the future more in favour of cannabis legalization. It's just a matter of time. Might take a while but it will happen at some point. I suspect in the next decade that there will be a more favourable view towards cannabis as the wind changes and politicians go chasing after those votes and not the daily sieg heil readers anti everything that they don't like or understand votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, pollenlover said: the daily sieg heil readers anti everything They vote. Everyone else seems to be getting a bit tired of it. Then moan when politicians ignore their wants. PS. The writer of this piece - Katya Kowalski- got an 'Atilla the Hun' (2:1) at Bath Uni, in..... Psychology. Msc 68% Health Psychology. What a cunty way she's putting it to use. She may be lovely, I am commenting on the original post - which I hate, clearly. I hate more how easy it is to make people jump to this or that discussion point, and the methods...like lefties giving all their energies to talking points put out by the ERG. It's...*sigh Edited January 24 by j.o.i.n.t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Lets have a song. the angry young man at the beginning....has a point. ETA I'm gonna fuck with all of you Catch me if you can. I promise no harm will come of it. Edited January 24 by j.o.i.n.t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Please excuse me, one more quote (for now!). I haven't changed a damn thing. Check the ' ' round the word truth. Quote "Katya has worked for Volteface since 2020. She is a communications expert with experience in developing stakeholder engagement strategies. Katya is fascinated by the dissemination of 'truth' in the age of information, particularly around how to effectively communicate complex topics to the public, media and government. She loves navigating the challenge of bringing fringe areas into the mainstream." https://uk.linkedin.com/in/katya-kowalski-38b530114 Shimmy up that greasy pole anyway you can, eh. PS. Public info. It's fine. Edited January 24 by j.o.i.n.t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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