Medicating by vaping

[Bad-Eend]

HI

 

I have been doing some reading  and I came across vaporizing.

The research in this book seems to be decent and I was quite surprised to read about asthma and vaping herb.

 

Now I have 3 questions (Maybe I should have made 3 posts

1: Anyone with Asthma here that vapes , and what is your experience

2: I am looking to buy a decent-good vaper without breaking the bank (a dry herb vape is what I am looking for but oil support would be a nice addition) and yes I am looking at Amazon 

3: The temperatures are unclear: If you go at the highest temp setting...do you do damage to the components that evaporise on the lowest setting? iaw Are you better off moving the temperature gradually up over the session ?

 

 

 

[Saddam]

Why buy from Spamazon when there's a site sponsor who specialises in vapes?   

 

vapefiend.co.uk 

[Flamedodger]

57 minutes ago, Bad-Eend said:

 

Now I have 3 questions (Maybe I should have made 3 posts

1: Anyone with Asthma here that vapes , and what is your experience

2: I am looking to buy a decent-good vaper without breaking the bank (a dry herb vape is what I am looking for but oil support would be a nice addition) and yes I am looking at Amazon 

3: The temperatures are unclear: If you go at the highest temp setting...do you do damage to the components that evaporise on the lowest setting? iaw Are you better off moving the temperature gradually up over the session ?

1. Can't help, I don't have asthma.

2. For dry herb, you can't beat a dynavap ime. gives you that spliff smoking feeling and at £50-£60 by way the cheapest option from vapefiend (site sponsor) even without a discount  and cheaper than Ama Zon even if you have Prime.  I've got a reducer stem for attaching to my dab rig if I fancy a vape bong.

I also have a S&B Plenty (240v), which is great for longer sessions and can vaporise oils etc. but a bit like vaping on a powerdrill   a Crator which is ok, but battery is pants. 

3. As far as temps go, lower temps you lose a bit of the hit but gain the flavour, I think at higher temps you lose the terpenes and I find it can make me cough, you have to experiment to find your sweet spot.

 

 

 

 

[Military Grade]

1 hour ago, Saddam said:

Why buy from Spamazon when there's a site sponsor who specialises in vapes?   

 

vapefiend.co.uk 

And a discount code

[Bad-Eend]

1 hour ago, Flamedodger said:

  I've got a reducer stem for attaching to my dab rig if I fancy a vape bong.

 

 

 

 

Can you explain that a bit clearer
Yours truly here only rolled in the past, dabbing for me is that annoying "dance" move

The main goal from /for  the cannabis is pain reduction but I would not be truthful if on occasion we will use it for non medicinal purposes

I was quite surprised that cannabis or better a joint does not have the effect on your lungs that a rollie does ..(If not mixed with tabacco that is)

Also some interesting  footnotes in that book on how it would actually relax the lungs (for asthma) 

I am very wary of smoking a joint, I am of the smokes for 12 years and still miss them. I do not want to smoke anything with tobacco (as anyone who ever tried to give up smokes means you are back hooked immediately 

So vaping...without the nicotine, tar and benzenes seems to be an option.

Also have you experience with 2x smoking.... Low temp in the morning...same stuff at a higher temp before bed?


As for Spamazon  I have an account with them, I know my details are safe as they are (they already have been sold on)
Setting up with a new online account  will not reduce but possibl only increase my spam
You have me at the discount code......(I am like Aisha BEFORE she met Mohammed) 
 

 

Edited June 11, 2021 by Bad-Eend

[Saddam]

6? 

[zeroG]

Vaping is complex, but this fundamantal will help - Lower temps you get more flavor/terpes/flavonids from your weed, higher temps you get more CBD...Havent doctors in the USA been prescribing vaping for Asthma for a few years? Its the expansive qualities that open up airways and clear paths, not to mention the analgesic, and anti-inflammatory proerties...

 

There was also all that hoo harrr when the cover of Mens health had the model chappie with the canna leaf tattoo - this is 5/6 yrs ago now, and the article about body builders flocking to the heavy THC weed for the same reasons, chest expansion, more oxygen absorbtion, quicker recovery, longer workouts - all buzzing like gooduns ...

 

Vapefiend are good - sponsors of the site, and an auto discount for being a member here, you can get a cheap starter to see if you like it, and ask their advice...I would suggest electric with presets, then you wont cook off your herb, you want to be keeping it all under about 420 - as an aside, your lungs burn at 600degs...

 

Surely you dont need an invitation to 'vigerously test' some devices? Ive been vaping for about 7 years after smoking 30 fags a day, and Im still testing...Im just running out of things to test

 

 

 

 

[Flamedodger]

20 minutes ago, Bad-Eend said:

 

2 hours ago, Flamedodger said:

  I've got a reducer stem for attaching to my dab rig if I fancy a vape bong.

 

 

 

 

Can you explain that a bit clearer
Yours truly here only rolled in the past, dabbing for me is that annoying "dance" move

 

It means I can stick my dynavap on my bong 

[Bad-Eend]

2 minutes ago, Flamedodger said:

It means I can stick my dynavap on my bong 

OK Curious now
I presume its 1: Dynavape 2: Bong/pipe  3: Your lungs ...
WHY use the bong in between ? As the vape is already way way lower in temperature than  joint smoke  

BTW I did use waterpipes once or twice as well as a joint....
Again no charcoal or tabacco and the smoke/vape is generated by the dynavape 

I am presuming that adabrig just cuts out on the need for extrenal heatsource and as one is using oil it is more concentrated
 

[Flamedodger]

Just now, Bad-Eend said:

WHY use the bong in between ? As the vape is already way way lower in temperature than  joint smoke  

It just lowers the temperature a bit more 

 

Just now, Bad-Eend said:

I am presuming that adabrig just cuts out on the need for extrenal heatsource and as one is using oil it is more concentrated

Well I use rosin in my dab rig, if you press your bud/hash at low temps you save the terpenes and flavour and 80% or more pure, it’s probably the best way in which to actually ‘taste’ your weed. I don’t do them all the time though, its pretty strong and have had a whitey or two doing them 

[Subliminal Criminal]

I would just get a nebuliser and nebulise hymnalayan salt

[Pepe Ramon]

19 hours ago, Bad-Eend said:

HI

 

I have been doing some reading  and I came across vaporizing.

The research in this book seems to be decent and I was quite surprised to read about asthma and vaping herb.

 

Now I have 3 questions (Maybe I should have made 3 posts

1: Anyone with Asthma here that vapes , and what is your experience

2: I am looking to buy a decent-good vaper without breaking the bank (a dry herb vape is what I am looking for but oil support would be a nice addition) and yes I am looking at Amazon 

3: The temperatures are unclear: If you go at the highest temp setting...do you do damage to the components that evaporise on the lowest setting? iaw Are you better off moving the temperature gradually up over the session ?

 

 

 

 

I have that book myself, it's excellent. If you want the vape to be portable, my recommendation would be to get a Mighty or a Crafty from Storz & Bickel, yes they are more expensive but well worth the money IMO. If you want a vape for the house I would recommend a Herbalaire. I have both vapes but I only use my Mighty as it's so good. THC vapes at 160 degrees, temperatures above that vape the CBD and CBG, it's all explained in the book, Jeff knows his stuff.

 

I have dabbled with using various temperatures but I find 186 degrees is good for me, this also means that the weed that has been vaped, can be infused into coconut oil, and used to make edibles. I think the reason that some people still cough when using a vape is, they are taking too much in, because it's cooler, it's easy to think, "I'll suck more", and they also want to see big clouds of vape when they exhale. Just use it like you would a joint, little tokes are the way to go.  

[Bad-Eend]

On 6/12/2021 at 6:59 AM, Maesteg Cannabis Club said:

 

I have that book myself, it's excellent. If you want the vape to be portable, my recommendation would be to get a Mighty or a Crafty from Storz & Bickel, yes they are more expensive but well worth the money IMO. If you want a vape for the house I would recommend a Herbalaire. I have both vapes but I only use my Mighty as it's so good. THC vapes at 160 degrees, temperatures above that vape the CBD and CBG, it's all explained in the book, Jeff knows his stuff.

 

I have dabbled with using various temperatures but I find 186 degrees is good for me, this also means that the weed that has been vaped, can be infused into coconut oil, and used to make edibles. I think the reason that some people still cough when using a vape is, they are taking too much in, because it's cooler, it's easy to think, "I'll suck more", and they also want to see big clouds of vape when they exhale. Just use it like you would a joint, little tokes are the way to go.  

Thanks for that 

BUT  (question  )
If you smoke at 186 and get both CBD and THC ...is the leftover still suitable for edible?

I thought I understood that 160 in the morning and 190 in the evening you get yout THC in the morning and your CBD in the evening

OR

Does this not work like a joint... where you smoke it all... you turn this off and you have leftover

 

[Pepe Ramon]

10 hours ago, Bad-Eend said:

Thanks for that 

BUT  (question  )
If you smoke at 186 and get both CBD and THC ...is the leftover still suitable for edible?

I thought I understood that 160 in the morning and 190 in the evening you get yout THC in the morning and your CBD in the evening

OR

Does this not work like a joint... where you smoke it all... you turn this off and you have leftover

 

 

You can do 160 in the morning and 190 in the evening if you want to. Yes the AVB (Already Vaped Bud) is fine to use in edibles. I don't have the Jeff Ditchfield book to hand but here is a rough guide to temps. I just copied this from a website, I hope it helps.  

 

Top 10 Temperatures to Care About

The two key players here are cannabinoids and terpenes. By looking at the most prominent subsets of these compounds, you can figure out the optimum temperatures for various effects.

Cannabinoids (full definition here) are a number of chemical compounds found in a cannabis plant that interact with your body in different ways to produce unique medical benefits. The top five, each with varying boiling points, include:

THC (tetrahydrocannabinol): The most prominent molecule of them all, THC is responsible for the “high.” Boiling point: 157˚C/315˚F.

CBD (cannabidiol): CBD is non-psychoactive and is more widely accepted for its medical qualities, such as pain and stress relief. Boiling point: 180˚C/356˚F.

CBN (cannabinol): This has psychoactive effects as THC does, but only mildly; its main benefit is sedation. Boiling point: 185˚C/365˚F.

CBC (cannabichromene): A unique chemical, CBC is about 10 times stronger than CBD for stress and also has antiviral, anti-inflammatory, and antitumor properties. Boiling point: 220˚C/428˚F.

CBG (cannabigerol): CBG has the lowest boiling point but, even at this temperature, stimulates bone and brain cell growth. Boiling point: 52˚C/126˚F.

Now for terpenes. Though not as familiar to most people, terpenes are the little hydrocarbons that give different cannabis strains (as well as other fragrant plants, like eucalyptus) their signature aromatic qualities. In cannabis, they are found in the plant’s sticky resin glands, where cannabinoids are also produced. Here are the five most common terpenes and their boiling points:

Pinene: As the name suggests, this terpene has a pine odor and acts as a bronchodilator (that is, it opens up airways). Boiling point: 155˚C/311˚F.

Limonene: Again, no surprises here – the citrus scent responsible for Lemon Skunk. Limonene is thought to have anti-cancer and anti-depression abilities, to name a couple. Boiling point:176˚C/349˚F.

Myrcene: This has an earthy, musky, almost fruity tone. Its biggest benefit is that it can increase the effects of THC. Boiling point: 168˚C/334˚F.

Beta-caryophyllene: Also found in cloves and black pepper, this terpene has a spicy flavor and fights anxiety, inflammation, and tumors by acting on the body’s CB2 pathways. Boiling point:160˚C/320˚F.

Linalool: The medical upsides of this floral terpene are its supposed sedative effects, helpful for aiding sleep, psychosis, epilepsy, and anxiety. Boiling point: 198˚C/388˚F.

The Right Temp for the Right High

First of all, there’s no such thing as the “perfect high” on a universal level. But depending on your individual expectations, you can do a few complicated little equations to ensure the right components activate at the right levels. Or, you could just copy our homework:

The mellow high: 160˚C/320˚F. This is about the lowest you can go to get any medical benefits out of your vape, and releases a good mix of pinene, beta-caryophyllene, and THC.

The energetic high: 185˚C/365˚F. This is where to set the dial for strains with myrcene or limonene, which will catapult THC absorption.

The sleepy/hungry high: 220˚C/428˚F. This intense indica experience unlocks CBC and linalool and is best for deep pain relief or sleep. Side effects may include increased appetite. 

[Military Grade]

On 11/06/2021 at 2:36 PM, Flamedodger said:

It means I can stick my dynavap on my bong 

DynaVap Bongs FTW

Edited June 14, 2021 by Military Grade