catweazle1 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Caly said: So if I get a 70/30 this will eliminate over watering completely? Yes. It just runs straight out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle1 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Caly said: I thought it was impossible to over water in coco and you could water as many times as you wanted to keep the medium saturated? In pure coco you have to watch overwatering until the plant has rooted out the pot, otherwise you'll drown it. Putting in perlite or vermiculite removes that risk and you can water to your heart's content, even when the plant is small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owderb Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, catweazle1 said: In pure coco you have to watch overwatering until the plant has rooted out the pot, otherwise you'll drown it Not really especially if you are hand watering as you should be starting in a small pot and potting on and then there's no chance of problems and you will get a better root system You dont need to add anything to coco. Not even a layer of pebbles in the bottom because your pot should never be stood in water The only time I'd put pebbles in the bottom is if they were sitting in the feed for a time like in a hydro system Owd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle1 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Owderb said: Not really especially if you are hand watering as you should be starting in a small pot and potting on and then there's no chance of problems and you will get a better root system You dont need to add anything to coco. Not even a layer of pebbles in the bottom because your pot should never be stood in water The only time I'd put pebbles in the bottom is if they were sitting in the feed for a time like in a hydro system Owd This is true but I'm thinking of neophytes and some of them want to do autos in final pots, so watching the watering is a must if coco is pure. For noobs, adding perlite removes any risk. I'm in the perlite camp anyway for my own reasons but for noobs it's the safest thing they can do until they understand the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpie2017 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 If you really want good results mate I'd suggest getting yourself some Autopots with the air domes that they do. Little more expensive but we'll worth the save in labour and also the root formation and yeild is over double compared to just using regular pots! Very easy a simple to maintain and is basically the best of both worlds hydro/coco. Lots of vids on line if you look!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owderb Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, sharpie2017 said: and yeild is over double compared to just using regular pots! Sorry Owd 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, sharpie2017 said: If you really want good results mate I'd suggest getting yourself some Autopots with the air domes that they do. Little more expensive but we'll worth the save in labour and also the root formation and yeild is over double compared to just using regular pots! Very easy a simple to maintain and is basically the best of both worlds hydro/coco. Lots of vids on line if you look!!! I went away from autopot as I would like a system that top feeds for coco, then I can still get runoff to test my EC. But I’m hand watering until final pots anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen-ken Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Owderb said: Sorry Owd He’s new brother....give him some time wouldn’t it be lovely tho if I could turn my 40 oggles to over 80 with just a change of pot. Edited May 26, 2020 by zen-ken 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpie2017 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) On 26/05/2020 at 7:40 AM, zen-ken said: He’s new brother....give him some time wouldn’t it be lovely tho if I could turn my 40 oggles to over 80 with just a change of pot. It's not just the pot! It's adding the air dome which is key here! It's proven that if you use autopots with their air domes the this can increase yeild upto 130% compared to just using regular pots! Plus the easy of using the whole system. And i suppose if you wanted to top feed you'd still be able to you could just alternate or something! I personally do like to give them the odd couple of dry days threw out cycle so they become thirsty/hungry and have never thought of top feeding when in this state so maybe it's something I'll try before putting them back on the barrel! Edited May 28, 2020 by sharpie2017 Spelling mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owderb Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, sharpie2017 said: It's proven that if you use autopots with their air domes the this can increase yeild upto 130% compared to just using regular pots! Proven is it Once again.... Owd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hi All, So I'm going to mix perlite with coco by hand, I'm I correct in thinking that 12.5 litres of perlite with 50 litres of canna coco is a 70/30 ratio? Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukbudz Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Easiest way mate is divide 50 by ten to find 10% then times that by 3 for your 30% which would be 15 litres. Hope this makes sense just having my first doob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, ukbudz said: Easiest way mate is divide 50 by ten to find 10% then times that by 3 for your 30% which would be 15 litres. Hope this makes sense just having my first doob Thanks mate, so I'll just add 15 litres with a 50 litre bag then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokenroll Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Wash your perlite to flush out all the dust before mixing is my advice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golf.007 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I don't see the point,If you have a rooted out plant in coco when you water/feed it the coir will hold onto those nutrients ready for the plant to take. Adding 30% perlite means less available nutrients for the plant to uptake. Coco doesn't need any help in drainage it runs straight through so there is really no point in adding perlite. Atb 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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