Critical Jack

[Green demon]

Thanks Mark always nice to have you stop by mate! I'm really impressed with the ez cloner. So much so I bought the roots excelurator despite the price tag.

I've been cloning for years using peat pellets. If cuts are a good size and I keep temps at 25 degrees I usually get very high success rates.

However I find the pellets a right hassle. Hydrating is messy. Squeezing out the right amount of water is a fine art and they take up quite a bit of room.

 

The ez cloner is more work. Setting the nutrient tank and maintaining the pH. Cleaning it out and changing it once a week. I much prefer this though because of the benefits. Primarily it's much easier to whip through a load of clones and fill a tray than a prop with pellets. It's also extremely cool being able to check on root development. For this alone I love this system and would buy it again!

 

Aye you hit the nail on the head mate. What always put me off multiple part feeds was  the complexity. It's great having more control but only if you know how to use it. I've always kept it simple and had good results but now shits getting heavy.

Overdose on the PK can cause Cal mag lock out causing many a grower to then incorrectly amp up the cal mag instead of reducing PK. This stuff I get but still, knowing how much to use can only come with experience, trial and error. 

Im going to start slow to try and minimise the error  

 

 

 

[Happy Hippy]

@Green demon

 

Sorry dude i had to laugh to myself,1st time i did it i used Canadian express with every additive known to man lol,by the time i was on my 3rd or 4 th grow i only used grow and bloom with a little regeneroot no pk or anything and man it was such a nicer smoke i stuck to the less is more principle.

 

Last nutes i used was Vitalink just AnB 2 part nutes.

 

take it easy buddy

 

peace

[Green demon]

 @Happy Hippy I would like to point out this was an accident. When I bought a 5l tub of coco A and a 5L tub of coco B I thought it was their old stuff. 

Their old stuff was well balanced and you just fed a and b throughout simples.

 

Having purchased the new range I'm faced with either continue to use just A and B or get supplements.

The A and B are in no way balanced enough to use on their own IMO so supplements it is.

The buddy or PK is a must to create my own balanced feed. Getting both is lazy on my part I know this, at least I didn't get plant start  

 

Ive seen first hand the difference between with and without root stim and rhizotonics in general, I'm a big fan. I personally believe these products are real not snake oil.

The fulvic and turbo could very well be bullshit but I'm curious  

[Dinafem-Mark]

Always a pleasure to drop by mate as we love your work

 

Love popping in ad you are always up to something and improving your growing skills

 

I've had a few growers comment on the ezcloner I know @arthur leeuses one and has very efficient results 

 

I'll be back around more now mate as I've been on a small break just to reset

 

All the best 

 

Mark.

[Green demon]

I noticed you'd been a bit quiet bro figured you needed a bit of time out, understandable! Happy you're back and rested mate, the board has been a bit quiet without you  

 

Thanks again mate, I am on a mission to produce the best bud I can from coco. It's going to take a lot to beat bio bizz for potency or flavour so we'll see how vitalink compares.

 

Theres a few exceptional growers using these cloners like Ditchthedealer, proving they work, just need to dial it all in.

 

Im going to get these Cheese and Critical clones nicely rooted then I'll give the system a good clean out and see what it can do with the Chemdawgs!

[ineedofusername]

Don't know how I missed this grow but just read all 10 pages and wow some great ideas and inspiration will be keeping an eye on this grow for sure keep up the good work. 

[Green demon]

Thanks @ineedofusername happy it's all been of interest to you mate, stop by when ever you like. 

Just had a little peek in the ez cloner. Fair to say this thing has replaced tv for me. I get a right buzz from cloning and this system is just pure root voyeurism. I'm going to clean out the cloner today so I can mix in some Root Excelurator Gold, cant wait to see if the growth gets even quicker. 

Here's two different clones, one in the basket and one out. Considering the Black Dog clone got transplanted into Coir when it had one root and successfully rooted its biodegradable pot out in a couple of days, these girls are more than ready to be transplanted. 

 

[Green demon]

Just as a reference for myself more than anything. Did a res swap on the ez cloner. 15L of water. 1 tablespoon of clonex and 4.5 ml of Roots Excel. 3.5ml of each Coir max A & B. EC between 0.4/6. PH @ 5.9 

 

I then drained 5L from the res and added 5ml of Buddy @ the recommended dose of 1mlpl. Also 2.5ml of Magi Cal at the recommended low dose of 0.5mlpl.

The EC came out at 1.8 so I added fresh water to bring it down to 1.2 and set the pH at 5.9. I then watered/fed the two Exodus Cheese and Critical Jack with 2L each, ensuring a fuck ton of run off just to make sure no salts remain from the cold spell.

[ineedofusername]

@Green demon that's root porn I have the same obsession take loads of cuts and only need 10-15 but love seeing all 30 explode with roots. 

[Green demon]

 @ineedofusername root porn. Love it. Favourite part of the hobby for me cloning. Got addicted to it a long time ago when I topped my blue cheese and rooted the cut, let it grow a bit then topped the clone and rooted the top again. Kept her alive for nigh on five years just taking clones off her in early flower and use them for the next crop.

 

Check the pH of the ez cloner every morning and it's always crept out to 7. I'm thinking I should maybe start adjusting it twice a day to narrow the drift. Here's some more root porn for ya

 

[Green demon]

So now the drippers have been fucked off im back to hand watering. With a couple of pumps spare I got thinking and made a watering wand. It's got a tap for control and it's stiff enough I can water the plants at the back without killing my back so all in all I'm one happy bunny.

There's the slightest sign of nutrient burn on the leaf tips of one of the Cheeses after the 1.4 feed.

This morning I drained 15L from the res and added Buddy and Magi Cal as per manufactures instructions. 15ml & 7.5ml. The EC came out at 1.8 which it's apparently supposed to. I then added tap water to lower EC to 1.2 and watered each plant a litre til run off. Then I gave them another litre just to make sure.

 

Heres a few shots of the Critical Jack.

Group shot

Doing some reading last night and I discovered that the defoliation technique I use has been given the name of Shwazzing. Heavy fan leaf defoliation last week of veg before flower, then again after three weeks of flower including removal of any lower budsites that won't get sufficient light. 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Green demon said:

Doing some reading last night and I discovered that the defoliation technique I use has been given the name of Shwazzing.

 

Shwazzing, fuck me, what next?

 

"Yo dawg I got a new technique called Shmengeleing! I made copies of my plant by Shwazzing and sticking the cuts into medium and they totally rooted! I gotta get some recognition for this!" 

[Green demon]

@SMEG HEAD exactly bro. I was like wtf. What tit thought defoliating late in veg and after 3 weeks of flower required a name. Just some idiot wanting people to think he's come up with some new tech. At least give it a good name. Just thought I'd reference it so people clueless in defoliation can look it up

[Guest]

@Green demon Don't worry pal I wasn't having a pop at you mate, I like the fact you're going the extra step and showing evidence/background of the method behind your 'madness' I did the same with the 6/2 veg cycle, read and linked the theory and used it practically with good results.

 

I've been keeping a quiet eye on your adventure and I love the form of your plants - the growth looks amazing in coco the topping and tying has been executed well, If I could get into the habit of pH adjustment I'd really give it a go but my current soil grow is going great with the lower feed and additives regime.

 

Really stoked to see your new CMH's are performing.

[Green demon]

@SMEG HEAD Cheers mate I appreciate that.  yeah there is method to my madness it's just not mainstream I guess. 

 

Defoliation is a  touchy subject but I see and treat herb like tomatoes. I can grow twenty tomatoes on one plant in a small pot and most of them will never reach maturity as the plant is spreading its energy too thin. You also get lots of small tomatoes for the same reason. However when you trim of excess fruiting branches and leave only a few, the quality and size of fruit fuckin sky rockets.

Training in my view isn't necessarily about increasing yield, it's about increasing the quality of the fruit that is yielded. 

 

I always did bio biz or seaweed based feeds before and the thought of EC and pH really put me off. So did having loads of different nutrients to work with. All the guys I know that Grow are either coco or NFT and they thought I was crazy messing with soil. Their view was that hydro/coco was more scientific and you could push the plant much further.

 

Thats exactly what put me off before. I couldn't appreciate what they were saying or see their view point, but now? I get it.  I haven't watched TV since I started my Grow up again. There's always something to check or something to learn about or tweak. Soil is very hands off in comparison and whilst I think it's better for end product, I want to see just how good I can get coco bud before I go back.

 

The CMH are game changers in my view just from the lack of heat. Law of Thermodynamics dictates that 400w is 400w. So basically 315w of CMH is exactly the same as 315w of HPS. The difference IMO is the heat is lost at the ballast with the CMH and more the lamp with HPS.

My 600w digital HPS ballast runs as cool as an Inuits ball bag, the lamp is hotter than hell. I could be full of shit here but it's just my take on it. 

As for the quality of light, it's been said by many but I'll add to it, the daylight lamps produce a beautiful clinical white light. The difference between the Lumii, LEC, and Growstar is all noticeable too. Under the growstar, I'm not sure this is the right term but, the light looks diffused.  The spread is insanely well distributed. Makes it perfect for veg in my book.

The Lumii and LEC both seem give off a more intense output of light and the parabolic spread is square whereas the Lumii is rectangular. Obvious to some, not to all, just thought I'd mention it.