Plant training help a noob

[Ajimango]

My two Cream 47 girls are now in day 29 of veg. I am not sure of where to go from here. Here's hoping you lads can set me straight.

 

I really need to train these girls to get the best out of them. The grow drobe is 60x100cm and the head room is a good meter above the pots. I can afford to fuck up.

 

My main thoughts are to do Nebula's simplified manifold method. (Allow to grow to 6 nodes, top just above third node, remove all growth except that at the third node. Allow the shoots at the third node to grow 4 nodes then top these shoots to the third nodes,. Remove growth from the second nodes to leave nodes 1 and 3 to leave 8 main colas.) Then train by LST.

 

If I dont do the manifold what shud I do? Please checkout my Cream 47 grow in the grow diaries led section.

 

Peace Aji

 

[Slippy One]

Just use a screen? Start topping for multiple grow tips but a screen is perfect for 1 or 2 plants, and more efficient for electricity

[Ajimango]

46 minutes ago, Fatboy77 said:

Multiple toppings and stripping growth slow a plant down, unsurprisingly.

While manifolding may look great you can achieve the same outcome by simply using LST.

Loads if threads on here about lst so have a look round, pop back with questions if you need to.

If I grew a manifolded plant by the side of a trained plant the end size difference would put most people of manifold grows permanently.

 

Thanks Fatboy, I was tempted by the manifolding but your right she's gunna take weeks to recover, all that lovely growth stripped away and if we can get as good or better another way I'm all for it.

 

40 minutes ago, Slippy One said:

Just use a screen? Start topping for multiple grow tips but a screen is perfect for 1 or 2 plants, and more efficient for electricity

 

 

 

So the girls have got 6-7 nodes, 29 days veg, not sure if I can see sex yet, will have a close look at lights on.

 

When should I top?

 

What node should I top down to?

 

Then what? Spread out whats left and use LST and continue to train any new branches. I did LST before on some autos but they were much younger when I started their training.

 

Or I cud fit a screen like Slippy said.

 

I'm gunna go away and do a bit more homework.

 

Peace Aji

[CheechChongReturns]

Tie her over so she looks like an upsidedown letter J so her apical dominance is broken (LST) , then use a screen to train her.

 

[RUFUS HOUND]

LST them,  Bend over the main stem - the objective is try to get its top below the level of the other branches, this breaks the apical dominance and will cause all other branches to burst into life.

[Ajimango]

3 hours ago, CheechChongReturns said:

Tie her over so she looks like an upsidedown letter J so her apical dominance is broken (LST) , then use a screen to train her.

 

 

2 hours ago, RUFUS HOUND said:

LST them,  Bend over the main stem - the objective is try to get its top below the level of the other branches, this breaks the apical dominance and will cause all other branches to burst into life.

Ok but should I top them first, of so to what node.

Peace Aji

[CheechChongReturns]

you don't need to .

The main head will just become one of many.

Alternatively , you may choose top her main head along with the branches once they get level, to increase the number of total heads.

That will help fill out a net .

LST her first and let the branches catch up. You can make a choice then depending on how much space you have left.

 

[Ajimango]

Cheech, ta for your advice. Seems the consensus is not to top. That seems to be the way I'm thinking too.

Some serious bondage is gonna be needed.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Ajimango
random spell check nonsense

[mysticriver]

there's a training guide on here somewhere, but I dont think you'll need it

like the other guys have said, get the main stem down, to the level of the others and make several heads out of the various side stems that you have, to make a flat canopy of said heads

you cant always get the main stem down if you've left it too late (like I have here)

summert like this

 

she's a photoperiod at 5 weeks from flip

 

 

mystic

Edited April 25, 2023 by mysticriver

[RUFUS HOUND]

theres nothing wrong with topping, it has a similar effect, its just that when the plant is cut it takes extra time to recoer that could have been better used growing bigger.

[Ajimango]

OK, I decided against manifolding. I bent the tops over and will continue with LST.

[Military Grade]

I'm yet to see this recovery time when Topping or mainline

 

Now tho I top twice and scrog and can all be done in a 4 week veg.

[murphyblue]

I dont like topping i find it relaxing just bending them to my will.

 

My last 2 i grew inside.

 

[Ajimango]

Very nice, I've been watching your diary @Military Grade

[Ajimango]

@murphybluehow old are those plants fella. I think they are from a recent grow? How long did you veg for?