Guest Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Right guys so I qwiso a good way to make shatter . I'm reletivly simple and have no fancy machines purge/vac so be easy with me. Can qwiso be made into the shatter that can be vaped . I read it needs to be winterized for health purposes is this set in stone? I'm getting confused as a qwiso makes shatter and a longer exposure ends up making RSO Any one to tell me in a bit shell what's the best way to make nice shatter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywolf Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 https://web.archive.org/web/20160220084742/https://skunkpharmresearch.com/qwiso/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbillybob Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 That looks like a link to making qwiso. a good one none the less. I think most make shatter by using butane, there are loads of guides on youtoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywolf Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 23 hours ago, badbillybob said: That looks like a link to making qwiso. a good one none the less. I think most make shatter by using butane, there are loads of guides on youtoob You can make shatter with either. Shatter is simply cannabis essential oil in carboxylic acid form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbillybob Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 How do you make shatter from oil? oil is a liquid substance, shatter is not? Any links to how this is done, because I didn't know it was possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clumsy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 @B-real @badbillybob I'll be trying this when my DarkDevil is dry, week or so probably, I'll let you know how I get on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Clumsy said: @B-real @badbillybob I'll be trying this when my DarkDevil is dry, week or so probably, I'll let you know how I get on. Yh deffo do.i dunno what to use butane or iso or ether . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, badbillybob said: How do you make shatter from oil? oil is a liquid substance, shatter is not? Any links to how this is done, because I didn't know it was possible I been reading alot of different things I'm confused but I think with qwiso you gently let it bubble and then it purges out and sets clear .I may be well off cuz I am still confused my mate made bho confront of me years ago it came out like black tar nothing like shatter so until I get my heard round it in dumfounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golf.007 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 You not got any hair straighteners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywolf Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, badbillybob said: How do you make shatter from oil? oil is a liquid substance, shatter is not? Any links to how this is done, because I didn't know it was possible In carboxylic acid form, it is a hard brittle resin at ambient. After decarboxylation it loses viscosity and becomes more oil like. High terpenes and retained solvents will make it looser. Pull and snap is more like taffy and typically shatter with high terpenes. Edited June 11, 2020 by Graywolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen-ken Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 10/06/2020 at 0:48 PM, badbillybob said: How do you make shatter from oil? oil is a liquid substance, shatter is not? Any links to how this is done, because I didn't know it was possible You don’t you can turn shatter to oil......but once decarbonisation has taken place you can’t change it back ????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurdist Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) On 10/06/2020 at 11:17 AM, Graywolf said: You can make shatter with either. Shatter is simply cannabis essential oil in carboxylic acid form. I hadn't heard that definition before. Can I take it from this that it's impossible to make shatter using decarboxylated material? E2A I see you answered that already, only really terpy decarboxylated material will be less brittle. Edited June 11, 2020 by Absurdist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen-ken Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Graywolf said: In carboxylic acid form, it is a hard brittle resin at ambient. After decarboxylation it loses viscosity and becomes more oil like. High terpenes and retained solvents will make it looser. Pull and snap is more like taffy and typically shatter with high terpenes. I must admit, I’m really confused by this. I remove the waxy crap from my concentrates so where is the carboxylic acid coming in ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurdist Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, zen-ken said: I must admit, I’m really confused by this. I remove the waxy crap from my concentrates so where is the carboxylic acid coming in ? We're talking about the THC carboxylic acid, as manufactured by the plant. As opposed to decarboxylated delta 9 THC formed by heating the THC carboxylic acid. Nothing to do with wax. Does this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen-ken Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Absurdist said: We're talking about the THC carboxylic acid, as manufactured by the plant. As opposed to decarboxylated delta 9 THC formed by heating the THC carboxylic acid. Nothing to do with wax. Does this help? No....and I’m really not being difficult. carboxylic acid is predominately the waxy crap that I remove from my purge (the white crap) the plant doesn’t produce THC....it produces THCv.....oxidation causes it to change to THC Edited June 11, 2020 by zen-ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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