Clean Green Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 With a note attached reading " in case demand outrips supply at GW Pharma, yours sincerely, ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joolz Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I appreciate you're better informed situation @@Joolz although felt the ridicule wasn't called for given the one cause we are discussing. ridicule ? just saying it as I see it, cannabis protests and "smoke outs" in places where parents take their children to play is counter productive and not really activism 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashmaker6 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I'll be throwing seeds round my local city and town centre in the spring that's for sure. Would it be worth starting a thread on here to see (on this forum at least) how many professionals in senior positions are users ? The government like to create the impression that pot users are dysfunctional wasters who layabout all day scabbing off the state and indulging in other nefarious activities. All the users in my circle hold down regular jobs, at least 4 work at a very senior level earning 6 figures, several of us are at senior level management roles, the others are working in highly skilled sectors, engineering etc. none of the group had ever claimed benefit or has a criminal record. I suspect we are not alone @@Clean Green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Green Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Agreed @@Hashmaker6 Yeah you're right @@Joolz .... The pub it is then! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur lee Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I understand you fully @@Hashmaker6 and have come across a multitude of proffesionals that fear being outed as cannabis users There are not many things you can be persecuted for in todays pc world . But it seems that if you take cannabis you have no rites or protection Love Arthur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Green Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 That's exactly it. How many closet ganja tokers must there be? Professionally, I for sure am one due to the line of my work. Maybe that is they key, the stereotypical stoners are the first to stand up and shout out and the media fill their boots to push their agenda aka reefer madness. It's perhaps a bit of a visous circle. Maybe the revolution will come when people begin to come out so to speak. Hopefully the US situation may help normalise our collective misinformed views over this side of the pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashmaker6 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) That's exactly it. How many closet ganja tokers must there be? Professionally, I for sure am one due to the line of my work. Maybe that is they key, the stereotypical stoners are the first to stand up and shout out and the media fill their boots to push their agenda aka reefer madness. It's perhaps a bit of a visous circle. Maybe the revolution will come when people begin to come out so to speak. Hopefully the US situation may help normalise our collective misinformed views over this side of the pond.That is precisely it and there are many hundreds of thousands of us if not millions. Useage is massively underestates . It won't happen until public profile figures start being open about it.I try and be as open as I can and where I have raised it with people I thought would react adversely (but whom I can trust) I was surprised by either how much of a non issue it was or the level of genuine interest which has since gone on to those individuals enjoying using it. But even doing this I have to be extreme careful. A few high profile actors, presenters, people In the public eye openly talking about it would help. People like Richard Branson should get a consorti together and start a high profile campaign going and saturate media and politics. There could only be one winner, and it would be the plant. In that kind of environment more of us would openly speak out. Then the whole campaign gathers pace because you have middle aged professionals talking rationally about their pot use and prove that they can all function sensibly without stabbing old ladies to feed their habit. E2a which is how the British Media and Bollocktics like to portray any drug (illegal) user in this country. And that is in no way trying to belittle or patronise any of those currently with the bollcoks to stand up publicly and call for change. Good on them, if there was a way for more to get behind it it then things would be sorted by now. The states will definitely start to change attitudes and the UN is going to change the convention on narcotics in April 2016 thereby opening the door for legal status and controlled and taxed supply and distribution. The dream of an attic full of it will then become a reality Edited September 4, 2015 by Hashmaker6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Green Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 So well known and highly admired folk in the public eye can indeed bring about a clearer understanding and help promote inquisitiveness to reach beyond the thin mucky layer of mis-information into the growing strength of truth that continues to gain momentum every day. Then there's those like Paolo Nutini who display an understanding of broad thinking common sense and awareness as well as being bold enough to talk openly and are shot down in flames - search Puolo Nutini cannabis Scotsman for the Scotsman article - sorry trouble pasting the link on my device. It shows the level of fierce propaganda even highly influential musicians are up against. It seems that every opportunity to report an even mildly related subject is grasped with both hands for a propaganda blast and shit spewing brain washing session. So what's to do? How do we get those in the public eye to gain enough confidence to boldly step forward one at a time?Perhaps they already have in the states - snoop dog, Cyprus hill, and many others are examples in the music scene. Whoopi Goldberg in entertainment and the TV and film side. I'm sure there are many others.... But here..... Fuuuurrrkin Hell, what do they get? They still get bent over and arse raped by the media. How did they get there in the states? Do we need to re model a UK version of what they are slowly achieving. I've never been one for alot of what the us stands for and their world dominance and warmongering ways, but we need to know not what but how they're doing what they are doing and get on with it over here. I guess I'm an optimist at heart but can get dispirited mentally by the setbacks we are faced with in the UK. Especially since earlier this year. There are alot of amazing minds in places like this and it would be interesting to see just how they got to where they did in the states that have gone recreationally as well as medicinally tolerant, and also how the internet played its part in the evolution of awareness. There are very interesting times to come I think, whether you're a believer or not in the big shift being a reality for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soto Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 Many police forces run regular meetings to gauge public opinion as to what their local priorities should be and any concerns residents may have. For those of us who don't grow, attending such meetings is a no brainer but can understand why someone who does would stay clear of them. That said they are a good opportunity to change things in my opinion. Police will direct extra resources into an area if the local community feel there's a problem with drug use. There is something very unethical about the police targetting resources toward poor communities because of some percieved threat whilst leaving the wealthy ones alone. This narrative of drugs being a threat to poor communities needs to change. Were it to would be a big sign of progress in my opinion. "The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all the people." - Noam Chomsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illegal smile Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 @@Clean Green we did it by little steps. There was no revolution only a process of evolution. People can and do evolve on social issues and this is a very social issue. The process here really started some decades ago with NORML - intersting stuff on youtube I'm sure - then California passed Medical Marijuana (most people don't realize that Alaska was truly first, but no one lives there, so they don't count). Those Californians pretty much established the validity of canna having a medicinal property. Here in the states, it doesn't take much for stoners in one state to become envious of those in others, and given the ability in some states for the people to put forth propositions....well, . So, now we are well into legalization in a few states and medicinal in a significant number of others, and alas some are still in the same frame of mind as you government is. Here is what we know that can not be disputed: Colorado is still here. Drug gangs are still there but they have moved to heroin. The State of Colorado is reaping a financial bonanza. Universities are now free to study the plant without restrictions. If you are over 21, you can have 2 ounces of weed with no problems. How you guys are gonna do it is for your side to figure out. Say what you want, but at least we have brought forth a few models that have worked here with varying levels of success (success being defined as total freedom, similar to the freedom a carrot grower/user would expect). The States which are still living in the dark ages will come round because of the $$$$$, after all we are Capitalists. The signal for the end of the dark ages will be when Canna related businesses can have banking relationships. Cheers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Green Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thank you @ illegal smile We need your US experiences and input I beleive to better move forward over here. It saddens me greatly each time I hear of an innocent person being slapped with a criminal record especially when medically related. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soto Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 One crazy thing I thought might be fun to do would be to set up a news website to report deaths from alcohol, cannabis and prescription drugs making it plainly obvious how dangerous alcohol is. That said, I know people feel uncomfortable about drawing such a comparison as they fear draconian regulation of alcohol like minimum pricing e.t.c. That said there's no chance that alcohol is going to be banned and there's been a lot of progress made in the USA by drawing such comparisons, cannabis is safer than alcohol etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soto Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Perhaps creating a mock business/website along the lines of 'craft beer' businesses/websites would help to raise the profile of cannabis in the UK. There surely can't be anything illegal about doing that, as long as the relevant disclaimers are put on the site and it's clear you can't buy anything through the website. Or is it still illegal?It goes back to that thing I said about the Campaign for Real Ale. We don't even have legal access to cannabis in the UK so it would be funny to set p a campaign against its rampant commercialisation before it even happens. I appreciate in part that's what this place is kinda about. Edited January 8, 2016 by soto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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