What Was Soap Bar, Really?

[willowisp]

OK, we all know soap is shit, no-one smokes it anymore, but what actually was it? I've heard so many different urban myths about it...apparently it starts life as top grade morroccan hash, only to be shipped to Amsterdam, put in a massive vat and mashed up with plastic and string...apparently it doesn't actually contain any cannabis at all...apparently this and that...

So what was/is it? Strain of plant? Region? Is there a "good" kind of soap bar?

[squirrel]

Some soap was better than other soap, but none of it was great. It was cheap though.

[Bish]

Dog bar

[Bish]

Some soap was better than other soap, but none of it was great. It was cheap though.

:kiss1:

[dogzilla]

I don't think anyone was mixing it up with tyres on a regular basis or anything dodgy like that because as much as soap was shit I don't think it killed anyone.

Basically it's just very low grade black hash.... I've seen some horrible stuff in my time that smelt aweful but there was tons of stuff out there that smelt just fine. I used to buy some but always checked it out first. If it was rock hard it was duff.

Used to be able to pick up an ounce for £50... loads of people in London smoked it because it was cheap and gave em a buzz.

Nowadays it's all about the "lemon" and there's enough bud going round that people don't really have to bother with that crap.

[willowisp]

Some of the soap bar in the late 80s was alright...it looked clean and snapped nicely, and was an ok smoke.

It wasn't just soap, remember slate? Fucks sake...now that really was awful! And rocky, with iron filings that showered sparks out of the end of yer spliff!

[ntb]

[Hir]

What Was Soap Bar, Really?

Something Kids of the 50s, 60s and 70s used to use several times a day, even behind the ears.

[Underwater]

I don't think anyone was mixing it up with tyres on a regular basis or anything dodgy like that because as much as soap was shit I don't think it killed anyone.

Basically it's just very low grade black hash.... I've seen some horrible stuff in my time that smelt aweful but there was tons of stuff out there that smelt just fine.

Don't fool yourself.

[audioaddict]

I used to smoke a lot of rocky/shit solids when I was younger... some of the stuff I used to get was quite decent... most of it was rubbish, some ridiculously bad that smelled of nothing but plastic and had what seemed like carrier bags and cling film mixed in with it.

I would rather not have any weed than smoke it nowadays, unless someone had some that was obviously decent.

[Boojum]

What do you mean what WAS soapbar ? Given that the VAST majority of hash on sale in the UK (sorry, that should be 'hash') from the (sic) pollen to the nasty fake black that's everywhere now is adulterated surely the question you should be asking is what was hash ?

[toki]

he he

good soap bar is an oxymoron - it just doesn't happen.

stay away form the fake,pretend cannabis. personally i would rather go without and throw it in the bin where it belongs.

dont you think ,if the government were really serious about protecting the health of people, that they would study this shit and advise people against it?god knows how many people smoke/have smoked this disgraceful excuse for hash over the last 15 years.....

hmmmmm wishful thinking i guess...

toki

[ripthedrift]

Hi

Incidentally, Soap Bar is considered a bit of a joke by Moroccans, who don't actually produce the stuff. Traffickers and Mafia gangs produce the 'soap bar' by adding all sorts of crap to otherwise good cannabis in Spain!

I was with friends in Morocco just after Xmas (going for years) ...they make hash ... they have 3 grades .. caramello ..(best).... a very light one .. (honey)... and what they call third grade hash for the European buyers ... this looks just like soap bar but is very smokeable ..its this one that is reconstituted in Spain (with shite ect) and sold as the soap bar in Europe

good luck

ps I think you will find that it started to turn to shite soap bar in the early 80's when all the old blagers had to run to Spain

Edited March 28, 2009 by ripthedrift

[Blayz'd]

Incidentally, Soap Bar is considered a bit of a joke by Moroccans

It's considered more than a bit of a joke here by me

That spanish stuff isn't bad compared to soap. Still nothing on hash but quite decent to be honest. Gotta be careful who your getting it off over there though. Get it off a morrocan and your usually sorted. Had some bud out there too but it was shit. That 3rd grade hash isn't bad though man, I was pleasantly supprised. Smelt it before I saw the guy smoking it.

Anything can be in soapbar, litterally anything. Won't catch me smoking that shit ever again.

[MrSpliffy]

WARNING: FIBRE-GLASS LACED BUD IN THE UK

There's always been bad quality cannabis around under probihibtion, in almost every country of the world. Of course, when it's illgeal, there's no consumer protection - and unless you know well the supplier, it may be impossible to even take it back.

There's been "soap bar" and "squiggy black" about for years, containing who-knows-what - set the article below to see the sort of abnoxious and dangerous substances greedy suppliers have been putting into it.

That sort of cheaps resin may well destroy the health and it's unlikley to give anyone a real cannabis "high". It's a fraud.

BUT NOW the siutaution has deteriorated and there's a real risk of serious damage to the lungs from inhaling some sort of fibre-glass spray put on to quite good-looking bud.

THIS STUFF CAN KILL YOU: when you shake the bud the sandy, gritty, glassy bits that fall out are precisely that - sand and grit and glass, not THC crystals.

Don't be fooled.

The ONLY way to stop this is to tell your dealer and REFUSE TO BUY BAD QUALITY

SMOKING SOAP = SMOKING POISON

A few years ago, RED EYE EXPRESS magazine highlighted the DANGERS of smoking bad quality hash, some of which contains very little cannabis at all. We refer to both "Soap" and the soft black gunk often referred to as "Squiggy Black", "Affy Black" or "Pakki Black". The article explained that even the better soap bars weighing about 250 grams contain less than 10 grams of cannabis pollen (resin glands) and up to 200 grams of ground-up shade leaf, along with various noxious substances like glue to bind it, and colouring agents.

Here are some of the other substances found in this bad quality cannabis sold by rip-off dealers:

beeswax, boot polish, animal turds, turpentine, henna, ground coffee, milk powder, pine resin, barbiturates, ketamine, aspirin, glues & dyes, Carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene and many other unidentified and possibly DEADLY chemicals.

These SOAP bars are not available from coffee shops in Holland or from farms in Morocco. They are often made in Spain or England.

SOAP bar costs about £1,500 a kilo in the UK, that's £1.50 a gram: that's £5.25 an EIGHTH

If you buy it you are allowing yourself to be RIPPED OFF by unscrupulous dealers who either do not know or do not care about you and your health and may be interested only in the HUGE PROFITS they make.

SOAP is poisonous - it is a danger to health and it gives real cannabis a bad name. It should always remain illegal.

The ONLY way to stop this is to tell your dealer and REFUSE TO BUY BAD QUALITY

The following is taken from RED EYE EXPRESS issue NINE Many other and more dangerous substances can be added during the preparation of this so-called hash. The reason why it is made and why it is sold is profit. Those who pollute and destroy real cannabis in this way are turning a highly beneficial and natural plant product into a health-destroying bad substance. You may get a 'hit' out of it, but it is not cannabis.

Those who sell such substances are either ignorant of real cannabis and its effects or they guilty of selling you poisons, ripping you off, and giving cannabis a bad name. Those people should be avoided - it is better to smoke nothing than to smoke the bad soap bars. After legalisation, those people will be prosecuted and may be put out of business in the same way as a publican who sells beer with dog's urine added to it.

In the meantime it is up to the customers to avoid these unscrupulous and ignorant suppliers

From RED EYE EXPRE

MAKING SOAP BAR IN YORKSHIRE

While reading Robert Connell Clarke's excellent book, Hashish, we came across a section on low-grade export quality Moroccan hash, known in the UK as Soap Bar. It seems that soap is made from only a very small percentage of resin glands (referred to as pollen), and up to 90% non-resin cannabis plant material which is bound together with bee's wax or pine resin and condensed milk as the mixture is too dry and powdery to be bound any other way. As the mixture is very green due to the high percentage of plant material, it is then coloured with instant coffee or henna to give it that sandy brown colour! In order to give it a slightly resinous look, turpentine is then added, which also disguises the taste!

Well, as growers with an abundance of leaf material left over from a crop, we couldn't help ourselves. We had to give it a try!

We sieved off 10 grams of resin glands (pollen), crushed up 200 grams of dried leaf and ran it through a sieve to reduce it to a very fine powder. We then heated this mixture in a bowl over boiling water and added 5 grams of bee's wax, five teaspoons of condensed milk powder, one teaspoon of turpentine, and a couple of pinches of instant coffee powder for colour. We continued to knead the heated mixture into a dough-like form, then pressed it under pressure and allowed it to cool. It bonded well into rock hard lumps, just like Soap Bar! To our delight, when we tested it with a flame, immediately we were treated with that old familiar smell of grade 'A' genuine Soap Bar! Crumpled like it too! Although there was virtually no resin glands in this so-called hash, we gave some to a friend and he had no complaints!!

By T. & K.

NOTE:

We have heard of many other substances that have been added to boost profits, help the bonding, increase the 'effect'. Change the colour etc, and most are far worse than those added above. They include ground up aspirin, tranquillisers and other pills, glues, benzene, toluene and other carcinogenic solvents, boot polish, dye, ketamine and other dangerous drugs, animal excrement, other vegetable matter - a nightmare of dangerous compounds.

The soft so-called Pakistani or Afghanis hash ("Squidgy black", "Affy", "Pakki Black") can be even worse.

These versions of cannabis do not appear on the markets of Holland or Switzerland, where there is plenty of good quality grass and bud, or in Germany or Scandinavia where people pay more for better quality.

Think about it - "SOAP" is now cheaper than it has been since the seventies, at least in kilo prices - it is available in bulk for less that £1.5 a gram (less than £3 a teenth). So not only are buyers being ripped off in terms if quality but also the dealers must be doubling their money!

The solution to this situation, brought about by GREEDY DEALERS under PROHIBITION, is to spread this message and stop buying it.