Underdog Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 That is all. Have a great day. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Dig out a big hole then add coco compo manure leaf matter over a few years it will be lovely. Year 1 just add tons of compo and mulch with cardboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Vitax Clay breaker for the win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullFeltMashematician Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I am working with clay. I've tried all sorts, but I'm confident to recommend tubes over anything else for an easy short term solution. Atb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 in dry seaisons...clay rulez ...nothing keeps moist as this..... plant early is the key lime breaks clay......do it in dec/jan... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von greenback Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 hours ago, BilgePump said: Vitax Clay breaker for the win What's vitax clay breaker mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 @Baron von greenback vitax are a fertilizer company who market their gear at amateur gardeners (like normal gardeners) and this is the vitax blurb about the clay breaker... "Clay Breaker is ideal for conditioning soil without affecting its natural pH. Suitable for all clay-based soils, Clay Breaker will break up the heaviest of soil, making it easier to work. Clay Breaker: Improves drainage and enhances soil warmth to encourage earlier cropping Will not damage soil pH Can also be used as an autumn top dressing on lawns Granulated for easy use around the garden, Clay Breaker can be used at any time of the year. For best results, apply during autumn after rough digging in the affected areas. The added benefit of introducing Clay Breaker into the soil in autumn is that the winter frosts combine with the breaker to give a good soil structure for spring planting. Clay Breaker can be incorporated in to soil which will be used for vegetables and flowers. It can also be used for lawns." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von greenback Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just now, BilgePump said: @Baron von greenback vitax are a fertilizer company who market their gear at amateur gardeners (like normal gardeners) and this is the vitax blurb about the clay breaker... "Clay Breaker is ideal for conditioning soil without affecting its natural pH. Suitable for all clay-based soils, Clay Breaker will break up the heaviest of soil, making it easier to work. Clay Breaker: Improves drainage and enhances soil warmth to encourage earlier cropping Will not damage soil pH Can also be used as an autumn top dressing on lawns Granulated for easy use around the garden, Clay Breaker can be used at any time of the year. For best results, apply during autumn after rough digging in the affected areas. The added benefit of introducing Clay Breaker into the soil in autumn is that the winter frosts combine with the breaker to give a good soil structure for spring planting. Clay Breaker can be incorporated in to soil which will be used for vegetables and flowers. It can also be used for lawns." Cheers mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, BilgePump said: @Baron von greenback vitax are a fertilizer company who market their gear at amateur gardeners (like normal gardeners) and this is the vitax blurb about the clay breaker... "Clay Breaker is ideal for conditioning soil without affecting its natural pH. Suitable for all clay-based soils, Clay Breaker will break up the heaviest of soil, making it easier to work. Clay Breaker: Improves drainage and enhances soil warmth to encourage earlier cropping Will not damage soil pH Can also be used as an autumn top dressing on lawns Granulated for easy use around the garden, Clay Breaker can be used at any time of the year. For best results, apply during autumn after rough digging in the affected areas. The added benefit of introducing Clay Breaker into the soil in autumn is that the winter frosts combine with the breaker to give a good soil structure for spring planting. Clay Breaker can be incorporated in to soil which will be used for vegetables and flowers. It can also be used for lawns." yes...2.5 kilo for 8 uk pounds..... i gues its just lime....with a very expensive name.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) i use this... lime with 15% mgo 20 kilo for 18.70 euro 20 kilo granulate for 250m2 Edited March 7, 2023 by DutchFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 @DutchFox there's not actually that much lime in the clay breaker. Bog standard garden lime will raise the pH of soil making it more alkaline whereas the c.b doesn't alter the ph of your soil significantly. 2.5kg for 8 quid?? Online maybe yeah but we sell it over the counter for 9.99 per 10kg bucket, 10kg of garden lime is a few quid cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BilgePump said: @DutchFox there's not actually that much lime in the clay breaker. Bog standard garden lime will raise the pH of soil making it more alkaline whereas the c.b doesn't alter the ph of your soil significantly. 2.5kg for 8 quid?? Online maybe yeah but we sell it over the counter for 9.99 per 10kg bucket, 10kg of garden lime is a few quid cheaper. i tried to find the contend of this stuff...could not find any real info.......( still i dont ) probally some Gypsum as soil improver ====================================== here we have a garden produckt.....its a sandy soil improver.....thats how its marketed it costs a fortune.....and.....its just pure clay !!! ....well...there is no lie its just a great way to sell cheap clay but yes its a sand inprover Edited March 7, 2023 by DutchFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I wouldn't add clay to sand personally, that sounds like a recipe for bricks. @DutchFox I imagine the difference is calcium carbonate Vs calcium sulfate dihydrate and a few other organic bits and bobs, tbh I've quizzed the vitax rep and he's got about as much product knowledge as the potatoes he likes to grow. I've just had a thought though... Symphytum officinale is a renowned destroyer of clods and breaker of unfavorable ground AND it's a banging liquid feed when made into a compost tea... @Underdog Get on the comfrey bro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just now, BilgePump said: I wouldn't add clay to sand personally, that sounds like a recipe for bricks. @DutchFox I imagine the difference is calcium carbonate Vs calcium sulfate dihydrate and a few other organic bits and bobs, tbh I've quizzed the vitax rep and he's got about as much product knowledge as the potatoes he likes to grow. I've just had a thought though... Symphytum officinale is a renowned destroyer of clods and breaker of unfavorable ground AND it's a banging liquid feed when made into a compost tea... @Underdog Get on the comfrey bro yes...manny try to make money from amateur gardeners... sand and clay if mixed well...works.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) to know what kind of soil you have....do this simple test... to find the % sand % clay and % loam for previous post...triangle Edited March 7, 2023 by DutchFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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