Results of Aging Pressed Bubblehash

[Translator]

Long time no post.

 

My last activity here was the thread "Hashinene?" and how beta-myrcene with proper care converts into the terpene hashinene.

 

 

Due the health issues, I have not been able to do much this year, but I was able to finish the ball of hash I made from the trim of the last grow.

 

9.5 grams of 159-74μm (Everything that passed the 160μm bag, but stayed in the 73μm bag. A 45μm bag would probably have been beneficial, since about 4 grams ended up in the 25μm bag. Some of that would have been saved by the 45μm bag)

 

Forgot some pictures at the press stage.

 

 

 

As a start, I just placed a big pot of almost boiling water ontop and let the weight of the pot do most of the work. (It's barely visible, but there is a layer of cellophane both below and above the resin)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here I'm starting to run into some issues, the resin refuses to press! Why? Not sure. If I could go back in time and change something, I would have tripled up the layers of cellophane and went at it with a hammer.

 

 

 

 

 

About an hour and a half into it, I gave up. It was not improving anymore. The resin heads were rockhard, again, a hammer would probably have helped a lot.

 

 

Rolled into the nicest ball I could. At room temperature the ball was rock hard, think stone marble ball but ligther.

 

 

About 3 months into the aging, I removed the ball from the cellophane to give it a quick smell and to roll it even tighter. Already here it's much softer and smell had improved dramatically. No pictures from this though.

 

And here is the results after 6 months of aging. Looks and smell nothing like the starting material.

 

 

The ball went from rock hard to being soft enough to squish between two fingers. Here I just used my thumbnail four times to drag away some material to show the inside.

 

 

Best close up picture I could get with the old camera I have. It's easier to see with a loupe, but there are a lot of intact trichome heads.

 

 

Plenty room to improve, but considering how many of the heads that are still intact, I'm very happy with the results.

[Shumroom]

That looks like some really nice stuff you've made there  

 

I'd struggle to keep my paws off it for the 6 months though

 

 

Hope you're keeping as well as can be.

 

Atb

 

 

 

[gb1]

I thought "PRESSED bubble "   was with a right press, 

Makes some killer rosin 

 

[Hashslag]

I had/have a similar situation, where my pressed ball was initially very hard, much more so than I expected it to be. I've left it now for over three months, and it has changed quite drastically. It's smoothed itself out, in simple terms, and is now super malleable (just squeeze gently between thumb and forefinger). It also smells delightful, really earthy, spicy and delicious. Ageing really does do something. From what little I understand, there is acidity in the resin itself which over time begins to 'eat' any impurities within. Or something to that effect.

[rumplestilskin'n]

how long should i leave hash to age for guys? 

 

also i was going to bang it in the freezer to do so but im gathering that you should give it a bit of heat, correct? 

[Translator]

5 hours ago, Shumroom said:

That looks like some really nice stuff you've made there  

 

I'd struggle to keep my paws off it for the 6 months though

 

 

Hope you're keeping as well as can be.

 

Atb

 

 

 

 

Thanks  

 

The trick is the aging, and I think that's the main reason why some people think it destroys the resin. A newly made ball is not very flavourful or even smelly for that matter, it's a weird mix of dulled hash and some cannabis mixed in. But once aged, the hashinene smell will slap you in the face. This process will destroy the typical cannabis smell and flavours though, in exchange for a predominantly hash/hashinene profile. It all depends what you want from it, if you prefer more typical cannabis terpenes, this is not the method for you.

 

Been thinking about this and my previous thread over the past few months, and I'm not so sure photo-oxidation is that important anymore. I saved two small samples, about 0.5 grams each, where one was put in a glass jar placed on a window stool, and the other in a cupboard. Pressed both samples and there was no noticeable change in smell or flavour. Could just be the sample size though, I would like to redo this experiment once I have more material.

 

I'm pretty convinced it's mostly a chemical reaction, and the reason I say that is that you start to smell the hashinene almost immediately after you start working the material. But it's a backgroundish sort of smell, where you can still smell the other terpenes. After 1 month or so, you can barely smell the terpenes that was once there when the ball was finished.

 

Can say it like this, 

 

1 month is smokable, 3 months is good, 6 months is awesome and 12 months is divine. I have only managed to save a ball once for a full year, and flavour was just that, divine. Not sure where the peak is, I think most of the process is done around 6-9 months, it still improves after that, but much slower.

 

1 hour ago, gb1 said:

I thought "PRESSED bubble "   was with a right press, 

Makes some killer rosin 

 

 

Yeah, should have called the thread "Results of Aging Temple Ball from Bubblehash", but oh well  

 

As stated above, it all depends what flavour you want from it. I also prefer the medical properties of hash made in this way, as the heat during the pressing decarboxylates the resin making the uptake better. Much more effective for pain aswell, atleast for me.

 

47 minutes ago, Hashslag said:

I had/have a similar situation, where my pressed ball was initially very hard, much more so than I expected it to be. I've left it now for over three months, and it has changed quite drastically. It's smoothed itself out, in simple terms, and is now super malleable (just squeeze gently between thumb and forefinger). It also smells delightful, really earthy, spicy and delicious. Ageing really does do something. From what little I understand, there is acidity in the resin itself which over time begins to 'eat' any impurities within. Or something to that effect.

 

Resin is very genetic dependant, this is the first time I experienced something this hard and grainy. And still the results turned out like it did! I really wish I would have beaten the crap out of it with a hammer haha. The bubble run before this just melted and turned into rubber with few if any intact heads.

 

From my understanding now, the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids, waxes and other oils within the resin head is all separated. But once you start breaking the trichomes and start mixing it all together, the chemical process starts and so does the smell. 

 

It could be acidity aswell, and that's the annoying part about all this, none really knows whats going on inside the balls during the aging. And there has been no studies done on it either.

 

The main hash smell, hashinene, comes from beta-myrcene though, that's a fact, but how? Hopefully someone does a proper study about this someday.

 

28 minutes ago, rumplestilskin'n said:

how long should i leave hash to age for guys? 

 

also i was going to bang it in the freezer to do so but im gathering that you should give it a bit of heat, correct? 

 

See above  And yes, you need heat. Depends what method you are using though. Puckpresses and similar does not work good for developing hashinene.

Edited October 18, 2022 by Translator

[gb1]

20 hours ago, Translator said:

 

Thanks  

 

The trick is the aging, and I think that's the main reason why some people think it destroys the resin. A newly made ball is not very flavourful or even smelly for that matter, it's a weird mix of dulled hash and some cannabis mixed in. But once aged, the hashinene smell will slap you in the face. This process will destroy the typical cannabis smell and flavours though, in exchange for a predominantly hash/hashinene profile. It all depends what you want from it, if you prefer more typical cannabis terpenes, this is not the method for you.

 

Been thinking about this and my previous thread over the past few months, and I'm not so sure photo-oxidation is that important anymore. I saved two small samples, about 0.5 grams each, where one was put in a glass jar placed on a window stool, and the other in a cupboard. Pressed both samples and there was no noticeable change in smell or flavour. Could just be the sample size though, I would like to redo this experiment once I have more material.

 

I'm pretty convinced it's mostly a chemical reaction, and the reason I say that is that you start to smell the hashinene almost immediately after you start working the material. But it's a backgroundish sort of smell, where you can still smell the other terpenes. After 1 month or so, you can barely smell the terpenes that was once there when the ball was finished.

 

Can say it like this, 

 

1 month is smokable, 3 months is good, 6 months is awesome and 12 months is divine. I have only managed to save a ball once for a full year, and flavour was just that, divine. Not sure where the peak is, I think most of the process is done around 6-9 months, it still improves after that, but much slower.

 

 

Yeah, should have called the thread "Results of Aging Temple Ball from Bubblehash", but oh well  

 

As stated above, it all depends what flavour you want from it. I also prefer the medical properties of hash made in this way, as the heat during the pressing decarboxylates the resin making the uptake better. Much more effective for pain aswell, atleast for me.

 

 

Resin is very genetic dependant, this is the first time I experienced something this hard and grainy. And still the results turned out like it did! I really wish I would have beaten the crap out of it with a hammer haha. The bubble run before this just melted and turned into rubber with few if any intact heads.

 

From my understanding now, the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids, waxes and other oils within the resin head is all separated. But once you start breaking the trichomes and start mixing it all together, the chemical process starts and so does the smell. 

 

It could be acidity aswell, and that's the annoying part about all this, none really knows whats going on inside the balls during the aging. And there has been no studies done on it either.

 

The main hash smell, hashinene, comes from beta-myrcene though, that's a fact, but how? Hopefully someone does a proper study about this someday.

 

 

See above  And yes, you need heat. Depends what method you are using though. Puckpresses and similar does not work good for developing hashinene.

It's all about enjoying the different types of meds....and processes... 

2022 Bubble at its finest.

Gotta love the Great outdoors eh

 

 

wet it appears beige in color..like junk

then as it dries, spread out on a mat or over a day or two it turns reddish brown.

once it's dry, it easily rolls up like this with the heat of your hands...

It has not been "worked" at all .  Just dried and rolled into a ball...

Stays great for the little amount of time it lasts  

Gotta like Free Shmea and some of the best to boot!  It's no affi or neps

but it does the trick and the cost is RIGHT

 

 

Edited October 19, 2022 by gb1

[Translator]

18 hours ago, gb1 said:

wet it appears beige in color..like junk

then as it dries, spread out on a mat or over a day or two it turns reddish brown.

once it's dry, it easily rolls up like this with the heat of your hands...

It has not been "worked" at all .  Just dried and rolled into a ball...

Stays great for the little amount of time it lasts  

Gotta like Free Shmea and some of the best to boot!  It's no affi or neps

but it does the trick and the cost is RIGHT

 

 

 

Was it fresh frozen or dried material?

 

Resin genetics is super weird in that way, I put my whole bodyweight at the roller when pressing this but absolutely nothing happend.

 

Thought I had deleted this picture, but I still had it. At first glance, it does not even look like the same hash, but it's just a different grade. This is the ball that was gathered from the 25μm bag. I forgot how much trim I used, but the 25μm bag consisted of about 30% of the yield, which is the reason I would like try a 45μm bag aswell. Think that would cut down the "waste" to about 20%.

 

It's still smokable, in a way, but very low quality compared to the 73μm bag. Barely any oils in it and very low stickiness, even when warm.

 

Never aged it, but doubt it would have improved much.