Caly Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Hi All, So I’m switching my feed from Buddhas Tree to Growers Ark, I’ve sent a sample of to them and obtained the following results: Values in parts per million (ppm) except pH. Calcium 88 Magnesium 1 Sulphate 7 Alkalinity 280 pH 7.60 I’m currently waiting for GA to get back to me is regards whether to use their stand hard water feed or if I’ll need a custom made feed. Anyway, I was advised by an experienced grower on here that when I first start using GA that I should just use the root tonic, A&B and x-traces just to get a feel for the nutes, just wondering what other growers thought as I wanted to use the full spectrum so is there any danger in doing so to begin with? Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just root tonic, a and b is all I use now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grower951 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, fatboy77 said: Just root tonic, a and b is all I use now. Do you leave out the extra traces all together then and feed full strength? Edited September 29, 2021 by grower951 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyNotEyy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I just used their soft water soil 1 part and boost it last harvest didn't feel like plants needed any more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, grower951 said: Do you leave out the extra traces all together then and feed full strength? About 3.5ml per litre gives me 1.4ec, usually sees me most of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Caly said: Calcium 88 Magnesium 1 I'd be surprised if you don't need a custom feed. Your ratio is 88 : 1 and it should be 2.5 : 1 or no more than 3:1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 15 hours ago, Oldbear said: I'd be surprised if you don't need a custom feed. Your ratio is 88 : 1 and it should be 2.5 : 1 or no more than 3:1 They have advised the following: Yes I would recommend using our hard water food and the addition of Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom salts) at the rate below to ensure the Ca:Mg ratio is in the best range. If using at 4ml/liter (recommended rate) Add 2 grams of Epsom salts to 10 liters of water dissolve then add food and adjust pH to 6.4 for coco. If using at 3ml/liter add 1.2 grams If using at 5ml/liter add 1.5 grams yes that's correct (adding more Mg from food so counterintuitive result from calculation) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Caly said: They have advised the following: Yes I would recommend using our hard water food and the addition of Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom salts) at the rate below to ensure the Ca:Mg ratio is in the best range. If using at 4ml/liter (recommended rate) Add 2 grams of Epsom salts to 10 liters of water dissolve then add food and adjust pH to 6.4 for coco. If using at 3ml/liter add 1.2 grams If using at 5ml/liter add 1.5 grams yes that's correct (adding more Mg from food so counterintuitive result from calculation) Further reply: Yes and Yes the addition of Epsom salts at the rates specified will bring it to around 2.8 :1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Caly said: Further reply: Yes and Yes the addition of Epsom salts at the rates specified will bring it to around 2.8 :1 That looks good, as you increase mg you need to increase N for calcium uptake. It's an ion competetion thing especially in flower 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 51 minutes ago, Oldbear said: That looks good, as you increase mg you need to increase N for calcium uptake. It's an ion competetion thing especially in flower you don't need to with our food, the N P K levels are designed to work with the Ca and Mg levels in the food/water supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Caly said: using at 3ml/liter add 1.2 grams If using at 5ml/liter add 1.5 grams I was referring to this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Oldbear said: I was referring to this Thanks mate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 Still not sure whether follow the feed schedule exactly or just just root tonic and a&b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Herb Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 @Caly How did the hard water nutes + Epsom work out for you mate? I have a hard water situation here and trying to avoid deficiencies this grow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caly Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Harry Herb said: @Caly How did the hard water nutes + Epsom work out for you mate? I have a hard water situation here and trying to avoid deficiencies this grow. I went back to Buddhas Tree nutes, GAs nutes reacted badly with my watering schedule and it caused stem rot. BT nutes just work better for my environment and methods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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