Sweet Seeds 2012: 60 Day Pizza Delivery!

[billbud]

I have no idea what your on about in that last post , but good luck with it anyway

bill

Edited December 10, 2011 by billbud

[Budelaire]

Cheers Billbud, i'll need a sprinkling of luck no doubt mate.

Incase anyone else is wandering what all the babbling is about, heres a low down on the Lucas/H3ads Formula =

Lucas Formula - A Hydro/Soil/Coco Feeding Strategy

Summary:

"Lucas Formula, sometimes known as the Lucas Ratio, is less complicated than it initially seems. It is nothing more than a basic recipe of nutrients to give your plants during both the vegetative, and the flowering state.

The original recipe uses 2 parts of the General Hydroponics 3-part FLORA series (Gro, Micro, Bloom) nutrient system, but Lucas Formula may also be used with Advanced Nutrients, GH's dry nutes (Maxibloom), etc.

Lucas Formula using General Hydroponics 3-Part System

General Hydroponics makes a 3-part system named the FLORA series. It consists of FLORA GRO, FLORA MICRO, and FLORA BLOOM. These are 3 bottles you buy, that you would normally use together throughout the entire grow. You may use it as per the instructions on the bottle, with excellent results, but...

Lucas figured out that FLORA MICRO contains enough nitrogen, and everything else that MICRO GRO contains, that you use it with FLORA BLOOM alone, saving you from having to buy FLORA GRO.

How do you use it? Simple. Add 8ml of Flora Micro (dark red stuff) to 1 gallon of water*, mix, and then add 16ml of Flora Bloom (pink stuff) into the water, and mix. Done - unless you're growing in coco. If so, see below.'

Lucas Formula using General Hydroponics Dry Nutrients (Maxibloom)

MaxiBloom and MaxiGro are dry nutrient also from General Hydroponics. It turns out, Maxibloom, used in a ratio of 7 grams per gallon of water*, is very close to the original Lucas Formula (above.) You do not need MaxiGro, and so this is the cheapest and easiest recipe to use.

Add 7 grams of Maxibloom into 1 gallon of water*, and then adjust the pH, and stir vigorously to dissolve the Maxibloom in the water. I advise putting the 7g of Maxibloom into a cup of warm water, dissolving it, and then adding it to the remaining gallon of water, before pH adjusting and mixing again.

Lucas Formula using General Hydroponics FloraNova series

This is probably the easiest (but not cheapest - see MaxiBloom above) feeding plan available. If you're using General Hydroponics' FloraNova Bloom 1-part system, simply add 8ml of FloraNova per gallon of water* and feed.

Lucas Formula when growing in Coco Coir - Head's Formula

If you're growing in coco, you may need to adjust the Lucas formula slightly to compensate for a property of coco which may result in a calcium or magnesium deficiency. How? You may be able to get by simply by adding 1-2ml of calmag (or MagiCal+), or 1 gram of Epsom salt (any pharmacy carries this), per gallon of water, before feeding the plants.

There is a modified formula specifically for Coco that consists of using a different ratio: 6ml of Flora Micro, and 9ml of Flora Bloom, per gallon of water, along with 1 gram of Epsom salt per water.

Either works, but be sure to try Head's Formula if you're having deficiencies or other nute/pH problems.

Low light ratio, and flowering vs veg

Lucas Formula should be used in the same ratio throughout the grow. There is a misconception that one should use 5ml of Micro and 10ml of Bloom, when in veg, and switch to 8ml of Micro, and 16ml of Bloom, when flowering.

This was never stated by Lucas himself. He originally stated that the 0-5-10 ratio was for LOW LIGHT situations (fluorescent lighting like PL/L and CFLs, or HID lamps less than 400W), whereas 0-8-16 is for medium to high light (400W+)

* What type of water should I use? What about pH/ppm?

The original formula uses reverse osmosis, or RO, water, and is intended to be used without having to measure pH and ppm. Reverse Osmosis water makes this possible because it should, in theory, be the same for everyone. It is filtered water, which you can get either by buying a reverse osmosis filter system, or just buying bottled water (among other brands, Dasani, the bottled tap water is reverse osmosis, for example). One may also use dH2O (distilled water) with good results. You can get distilled water from most convenience stores (Walgreens, CSV, Rite-Aide, etc..)

Lucas Formula for seedlings/cuttings

For young plants (< 4 weeks old) or cuttings, which may not be able to handle a full strength feeding formula, may require that you dilute the nutrient solution before feeding. This is OK, just make sure you keep the correct ratio when mixing. For example, 50% strength would be 4ml Micro and 8ml Bloom, or 3.5g of dry Maxibloom per gallon.

Lucas Formula with tap water

You may use Lucas Formula with tap water successfully, but this may require pH adjusting on your part. Keep the pH close to 5.8.

Can I use additives with Lucas Formula?

You may. It is recommended that you do not introduce additives until your setup is dialed in. After you've ironed out any deficiencies and fully understand how your plant and strain likes to be fed, feel free to begin using additives (such as Floralicious) - not that the additives will help. For increased quality and yield, focus on good genetics, and ample light and temperature control, rather than trying to compensate for those with additives."

Edited December 10, 2011 by Budelaire

[Guest Poacher]

Bloody hell mate, what an introduction to a diary! I think this is one I need to pull a seat up in, sit my ass down, roll a huge joint and watch with great interest

The very best of luck to you

[Budelaire]

Cheers dude. Going to have an almighty selection in the jars at the end of these two sweet seeds diaries!

[se7en]

did i wish you good luck?may do it again,good luck mate!

Merry Christmas

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[Budelaire]

In the other one yes!

Same to you se7en buddy.

[bushmaster82]

Wow man your grow cupboard must look like a laboratory

All the best with the comp buddy, and have a great crimbo

[Budelaire]

cheers man, its getting there. I love it!

[Godspeed]

All you journals are top notch bro got the detail to a T, is this one still active?

[Budelaire]

Well yes, i suppose so! Not with the GHE nutes though I'm afraid, i could't help myself and had a little experiment regards the Heads Formula here in this mini diary that i finished. Birthday Cake

So it will be just using Coco and plant magic nutes as they are to my liking.

Cheers man.

e2a:

But tbf i might just do a 20 Auto grow as thats how many i have now due to sweets seeds generosity! So it my be a 20 piece Hors d'oeuvre instead of the scrog/pizza

Edited January 20, 2012 by Budelaire

[Godspeed]

Cool will be subbing then, glad you like the plant magic coco nutes as i will be doing my first run on coco with them.

[Budelaire]

Sadly, I'm going to close this diary as I no longer plan to use the DS90 for anything other than drying and possibly a little veg every now and and again... I've fell out of love with them to say the least.

I will not be scrogging the Autos to better capture their appearance and the feeding will be different too. So the diary will be a world apart from the original plan and therefore it warrants a fresh start in my opinion, once I know whats what.

Then also taking into consideration the unexpected and further generosity of Sweets Seeds and their 3G Autos, I will change the plan as I now posses 20 Sweet Seeds Auto beans.

16 weeks to go...

Edited February 16, 2012 by Budelaire

[conky]

good luck dude!

[Budelaire]

Thanks man, thought may as well do them all in one go later on once I have a little room.

Sorry for pulling the plug for anyone interested in the diary