Guest djdavid4u Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 this is intresting im goin to start a vote to see if phychidelics have any part to play with the belief of god or reincarnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father McPot Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 im goin to start a vote to see if phychidelics have any part to play with the belief of god or reincarnation I reckon they do... Plus ignorance and superstition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest djdavid4u Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Well i just posted but made it about god I do belive in reincarnation as there is evedence to prove it as many of people remeber past lifes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman herb Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 What if Drugs do something to your brain that allowed your subconscious to temporarily become the dominant part of the brain, Showing you a world outside the "Real" world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest djdavid4u Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) well Psychedelics do bypass the filter of the brain so that is the case also I was thinking that everything that gets you high the body makes natrelly in one form or another what is geting high is state of healing? Edited July 5, 2008 by djdavid4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father McPot Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I do belive in reincarnation as there is evedence to prove it as many of people remeber past lifes First of all, evidence does not prove a theory - it supports it. Someone may say that they remember aliens abducting them, talking to God, meeting the 'devil', remember living as a king hundreds of years ago (notice that they rarely remember being a serf who trudged through shit all day); but these things cannot be true, simply because of memories (which are fallible in themselves, anyway). The 'evidence' is negligible because it cannot be 'taken' as it were, and examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien12 Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Anyone think there could be such a thing as genetic memory?, that could explain the reincarnation idea. Well now that is interesting. The human genome has been unravelled and been found to be incredibly complex. Scientists say that only 2% of our genes have anything to do with making proteins - the functional building blocks in our cells - along with patches of DNA that control, or regulate, the genes. The other 97% or so of the genome was said to be made up of "junk" DNA - so called because it had no known biological function......yet. I personally know a few people that had have had near death experiences and they telll very convincing stories of being in another dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest djdavid4u Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) I think in neer death expirences and when you are born your brain pumps out loads of DMT from the 3rd eye of the brain the pinal glane the myans belived that the sole sits and joines the body of a baby at 49 days of develoment and apprently babys do delevlope pinal glands at day 49 how did they know this? Edited July 5, 2008 by djdavid4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbal Kint Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I do believe in reincarnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DtH Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 yeah the dmt ingestion route is obviously the easiest. or you can learn astral projection. lucid dreamings a more realistic starting point though. Hello Holly,have you experienced the DMT ingestion route,if so,how did it compare to your astral projection,lucid dreaming. Cheers,Bob. hello matey no i havent experienced dmt via the ingestion route, other psychedelics yes, but i must point out that most of the drug taking occurred at some point after the obe's started for me. ive done shrooms a handful of times, but my most powerful experience was lsd (for the first and probably the last time) a couple years ago - way after the bulk of the obes had happened. the lsd didnt give me an obe but it did give us (me + 3 friends i was with) major telepathy amongst other awesomeness . all in all good times, ha. i must just also point out that although i practised lots of lucid dreaming and played with a lot of meditation and inbetween states before the obes started happening i could not and still can not go from a waking state directly into a "mind awake body asleep" mode from which to project. i randomly tend to become concious or "wake up" into that in-between state of mind awake body asleep during a nights sleep (usually in the morning), from which i can project if i choose. the best i can do to try and make it happen is rearrange sleeping habits/nap more often/will it to happen. all of those have worked st some point for me in the past. i still occasionally wake up in a inbetween state nowadays (some might recognise this personally as sleep paralysis) but usually fear takes over and i will myself to wake up, instead of using the opportunity to go OB. sorry for taking discussion off topic im goin to start a vote to see if phychidelics have any part to play with the belief of god or reincarnation I reckon they do... Plus ignorance and superstition. i like you dude but im mildly offended by that. you have made your mind up, sounds a lot like closing your mind to any other possibilities...which can be equally equated to ignorance and superstition imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman herb Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 the lsd didnt give me an obe but it did give us (me + 3 friends i was with) major telepathy amongst other awesomeness .gif. all in all good times, ha. That seems to tie in with what i've said in earlier posts......Our subconscious mind being able to pick up on others thoughts past and present. HAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DtH Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 i largely agree with your posts in here herman mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman herb Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 i largely agree with your posts in here herman mate Thanks for that. HAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father McPot Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 i like you dude but im mildly offended by that. you have made your mind up, sounds a lot like closing your mind to any other possibilities...which can be equally equated to ignorance and superstition imo. My mind is far from closed, and I certain don't rule out possibilities of things such as God, afterlife, reincarnation, etc. All I say is that, by looking at their origins of these concepts, they are unlikely to be true. However, we won't ever actually know if they are true or not, since they are metaphysical concepts (they cannot be tested by experiment or observation). Ignorance: Thousands of years ago, we knew bugger all and needed answers to the questions about the world around us (diseases, earthquakes, etc). Superstition: We made up what seemed to be rational answers to the big questions (If you say x about y then disease will break out, if you do z then it will rain upon the crops). These beliefs developed and evolved into what some people believe today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DtH Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) i like you dude but im mildly offended by that. you have made your mind up, sounds a lot like closing your mind to any other possibilities...which can be equally equated to ignorance and superstition imo. My mind is far from closed, and I certain don't rule out possibilities of things such as God, afterlife, reincarnation, etc. All I say is that, by looking at their origins of these concepts, they are unlikely to be true. However, we won't ever actually know if they are true or not, since they are metaphysical concepts (they cannot be tested by experiment or observation). Ignorance: Thousands of years ago, we knew bugger all and needed answers to the questions about the world around us (diseases, earthquakes, etc). Superstition: We made up what seemed to be rational answers to the big questions (If you say x about y then disease will break out, if you do z then it will rain upon the crops). These beliefs developed and evolved into what some people believe today. thats fine, i just dont agree with ya. ignorance and superstition are concepts/words you have chosen to define what people believe today, negative ones, which are inaccurate imo. thousands of years ago there were cultures in existence which understood disease and any earthly natural occurances such as quakes thoroughly. and they also understood unearthly phenomena too until most of that knowledge got burnt overnight on a stake (in england, at least, other places over the world experienced equally appalling tragedies) 'superstition', in a similar vein, was also brought about after the witchhunts in medieval times and used in opposition to any belief that wasnt christianity and wiki quotes it as often used pejoratively to refer to supposedly irrational beliefs of others, and its precise meaning is therefore subjective. ignorance and superstition are definitely not the 'origin' of metaphysics (or the metaphysical concepts discussed, i should say) . sorry. Edited July 5, 2008 by deckthehalls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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