Clumsy Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Hey All Looking for some assistance in buying a PC please. We've got a monitor, keyboard etc. So was just thinking of getting a box/tower. Mrs will be working on it so will need Windows, I'll be editing a few pics, nothing too heavy. Maybe the odd old platform game if poss. Probably spend £2-300 if that's enough. Are small ones like HP Elitedesk 800 G4 any good? (There's one on Stone refurb? ) Or is it better to get a bigger box. Thanks for any input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) @Clumsy From a quick search gathered there's a wide range of processors under that model code, the lower end being not great. Mind you, I say that from my geeky perspective. The 'Pentium Gold G5500/5600' (which I suspect will be the lower priced ones, looking at the range), is in my mrs little thing, and it serves her well enough. Web browsing, powerpoint, browser - basic office work kinda vibe. While back I tried a virtual machine on it, and doing some basic video editing (more to see if it could, than any real expectation), and it slowed to a crawl. Basic stuff only. Edited November 29, 2022 by j.o.i.n.t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exhale Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 DELL refurbs are a better shout HP I've never liked. You could get a tidy little beast like this for a quid short of £230 https://accomputerwarehouse.com/product/xps-8700-core-i7-8gb-120gb-ssd/ Should be able to free upgrade to win 11 when you set up which I recommend after upgrading to recently, uses a bit more ram in general but much more quick and responsive, also much more simplified like a tablet or smart phone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 @Exhale Me neither. Bought one of their early 11.6" micro laptop things, was a piece of shit...form factor was the novelty at the time that grabbed me, foolishly. I'm a broken record these days, I just stick with thinkpads/thinkcentres. Reconditioned business machines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exhale Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 @j.o.i.n.t Yes I have a few lenovo's round the place, I've had a hell of a job putting stuff in to storage ready for the move, 40 mid towers, 20 laptops, 20 servers. Not quite a tech graveyard as it's all in service and still earning me money one way or another! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) @Exhale That's some graveyard (eta, not a graveyard, in use!). You bring me comfort, the 36 fake android tablets I've got no idea why I said I'd take don't seem so crazy now. Had visions of building a guerilla mesh network.... Use the boards in some cheap IP65, antenna, and just stick them on on stuff in public.... then I ran out of that drug Edited November 29, 2022 by j.o.i.n.t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) @Clumsy This is just a suggestion, in my usual rut, on the opposite end of the forms available to what Exhale suggested, just for variety - if she wants it dinky... . Reconditioned ones going for around 260. Core i5-8400T 8GB DDR4 256GB SSD Windows 10 Pro 64..... 65W max, so would be a bit more gentle on the bills if left on a lot (marginal though, think that big un around 100w max) https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/lenovo-thinkcentre-m720q-tiny Problem with it, as I see it, they're going the same as all the other wankers and having the memory soldered in, I think. You'd be able to upgrade the storage, though. Having said that it'd do the job. Edited November 29, 2022 by j.o.i.n.t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clumsy Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Thanks @j.o.i.n.t@Exhale Not overly sold on the little ones, If it's better to get a bigger form I will, can always bind her feet Seen a Lenovo Thinkstation P310 8gb ram 240GB SSD i7 6th GEN @ £220, 12mth warranty, windows 10 or 11 Could upgrade to 16gb Ram and 500 SSD for just under £300, Does that seem reasonable? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 @Clumsy yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themadhippy Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Quote The 'Pentium Gold G5500/5600' (which I suspect will be the lower priced ones, looking at the range), is in my mrs little thing, and it serves her well enough. Web browsing, powerpoint, browser - basic office work kinda vibe. Built a pentuim rig for the workbench earlier this year Intel Pentium Gold G6405 Comet Lake Gigabyte H510M S2H V2 m-ATX Motherboard DDR4 2666MHz 8GB 120GB SSD CIT S014B Black Slim Case came in at a few quid under £200 . Ok it aint gonna play the latest games,but for general officey type work and web browsing its fine.It was mainly built to run a logic analyser and electronic simulation,both of which it does without ant problems.Added advantage is when 10th genaration proccesor prices fall it can be upgraded Quote While back I tried a virtual machine on it, and doing some basic video editing (more to see if it could, than any real expectation), and it slowed to a crawl. Basic stuff only. Not done any video editing on it,but basic sound editing aint a problem and runs win 10 (and 98) in virtual boxes absolutely fine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exhale Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 @Clumsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.o.i.n.t Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 @Themadhippy It's a first gen Microsoft Surface Go, her thing (present from her family on a 'big birthday'). I sense, which even compared to yours, the squeezed in form factor causes heat issues when it's pushed and it 'throttles' (dynamic frequency scaling). I'd have yours over that thing. Having said that, it's served her well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exhale Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 When I was first in to PC building I never even bothered with a tower I made a bench and I would unplug, disassemble and put back the parts in to the ESD bags and back in the box. Was easier to hide shit from druggies crashing in your flat also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Military Grade Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The newer AMD CPUs with built in Vega graphics are outstanding performance to cost ratio, unless you need a PC with dedicated GPU it would be silly to buy anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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