phenom Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Like nearly everyone on here i have campaigned for the legalisation of cannabis for years, i helped do a smokey bears picnic in norwich about three years ago and have sent my local mp/pm home office and anyone else that might listen many emails, twitter posts about cannabis, today i got another response from my local mp the same old story here is the response.... There is strong scientific evidence that cannabis is a drug which can harm people's mental and physical health, and damage communities. However recent cases have shown the need to look more closely at the use of cannabis-based medicine in the healthcare sector in the UK. This is why the Government decided it was appropriate to review the scheduling of cannabis. The decision of the Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, to reschedule these products is welcome. This decision means that senior clinicians will be able to prescribe the medicines to patients with an exceptional clinical need. Following short term advice issued in September 2018 the ACMD are to review the current rescheduling and its appropriateness by November 2020 and provide further initial advice on synthetic cannabinoids by summer 2020. It is crucial that this country keeps in step with the latest scientific evidence, so that patients and their families have access to the most appropriate course of medical treatment. My Ministerial colleagues have also been clear that given the nature of the medicine, it should only be prescribed be specialist doctors and on a case-by-case basis. I believe these strict controls are necessary to develop clinical expertise and an evidence base for this treatment effectiveness. The decision whether to prescribe an individual with medicinal cannabis is therefore not a political or financial decision, but a decision by a medical expert, who will have considered whether it is the most effective treatment based on an individual's particular condition. I will continue to closely monitor the roll-out of medicinal cannabis and I will certainly look at the report you mention. Thank you again for contacting me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBK Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) Their response makes me worried that it'll be a long, long time before we're ever legally allowed to grow our own. This Quote There is strong scientific evidence that cannabis is a drug which can harm people's mental and physical health, and damage communities. and this Quote provide further initial advice on synthetic cannabinoids by summer 2020. makes me Edited May 9, 2019 by dylanbk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenom Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 with all the evidence that experts have given to the government / home office we are no nearer to having cannabis legalised now than ten years ago yes CBD oil has been made legal but with so many hoops the patience have to jump through not many have passed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I have hope for Canada and America. When the govenments see the tax dollars coming in. When the sientists see that Canada has not turned into an episode of the walking dead and that mental health problems have not increased. When more of America legalises. We can be sheparded into Englands very own field of Cannabis legislation. I wonder if we will be allowed to grow at home? I am not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenVision Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 As much as I would love to the UK legalise I dont really care too much either way. I will continue to grow whilst those in parliament argue among themselves. Literally the only difference legalisation will make to me is that I will be bale to smoke more openly. I do and will continue to grow regardless of they're laws. I think its safe to say out government is very unlikely going to allow us to just grow what we want for nothing so in short fuck them either way. I play the hand they dealt me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBK Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, GreenVision said: As much as I would love to the UK legalise I dont really care too much either way. I will continue to grow whilst those in parliament argue among themselves. Literally the only difference legalisation will make to me is that I will be bale to smoke more openly. I do and will continue to grow regardless of they're laws. I think its safe to say out government is very unlikely going to allow us to just grow what we want for nothing so in short fuck them either way. I play the hand they dealt me. I wish I could say the same, but with landlords etc it is difficult for most people. I have to be very selective about when I grow and it's a huge risk for me and my partner, it's just a lot better than smoking dealer weed and having dodgy guys pull up outside my house every time they drop off. 29 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: When the sientists see that Canada has not turned into an episode of the walking dead and that mental health problems have not increased. Never understood this crap. It has been decriminalized in Holland since the 70's, plenty of evidence from Amsterdam etc that over the last 50 years since they have tolerated and 'legally' used it that there's no real health concerns (worst aspect for them has been tourism). All about money and control, I wish they'd give us a referendum on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenVision Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, dylanbk said: but with landlords etc it is difficult for most people Mate I never said it was easy. I have rented houses all my life, in a Council house now. What I'm saying is regarding the laws atm. If I get caught I will own up to what I'm doing and start again after I get home. For me personally in this situation there is no half measures, I'm not going to sit indoors scared or jump through hoops because our greedy asshole government are to stubborn to admit they were wrong. So legal or not I will grow, prison or not I will grow. I hold out hope for legal Cannabis and I do feel the wheels are turning, slowly, but they are turning. But until then I don't think much differently than I would if it were legal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nl5 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Fuck em, I stopped caring if it was legal or illegal decades ago, it’s perfectly legal if your not caught so use your effort to minimise that rather than worry what the government are doing imo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danknorthwest Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 It’s the paranoia that gets me knowing the police can just turn up and shut you down take all your equipment, weed etc and leave you with a date at magistrates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenchie Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, Danknorthwest said: It’s the paranoia that gets me knowing the police can just turn up and shut you down take all your equipment, weed etc and leave you with a date at magistrates Don`t give them any excuse to "just" turn up. Tenchie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Berry Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tenchie said: Don`t give them any excuse to "just" turn up. Tenchie. Sod's law, while it's illegal you can be a target and they can turn up on an unrelated matter and you've had a smoke the cops can use it to bully you 'can we come in sir we smell cannabis' Edited May 9, 2019 by Nick Berry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenom Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 until mps need cannabis they will not legalise it yes they smoke it in private like snorting coke or theresa may's niece suffered from mental health now theresa may is looking at putting more money into the nhs to help with mental health issues but mps will not legalise cannabis to help the public unless they can make money from it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugums Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, phenom said: There is strong scientific evidence that cannabis is a drug which can harm people's mental and physical health, and damage communities. This is not the case at all... there are a number of loose correlations linking weed to mental illness, but very few reviews of said literature. The reviews that exist point to major issues with the methodology and findings of these studies... And, review materials stress a lack of any testable link that can discount ongoing mental health issues (prior to use) and other factors influencing mental health issues. What I mean is, when a study says weed is associated with mental health issues, it has not been able to assess whether or not other factors have influenced or caused the issues, they just begin with a self-declared assumption given by a test subject. That is very bad science! Perhaps for some, weed might be a tipping point, but even that conclusion is largely unfounded because tests most commonly begin with people who make the connection between their mental health issues and weed - there is no such thing as a pure test subject in human testing for mental health issues - as such, any objective claims (usually only made in the media, though also in some very poor scientific papers) should be discounted on the basis that the subjects from which results stem are not themselves lab-controlled objects, they are social subjects who experience stress, emotional turmoil, alcohol use etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenom Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 I personally did not say that I just posted what was said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurdist Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Nicely summarised @Slugums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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