zero Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Anyone wanting to try a cracking conspiraloon read could do worse than " Double Standards: the Rudolf Hess cover up" by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince. Briefly, Hess arrived with detailed peace proposals to meet a faction in the government and establishment who wanted to get Britain out of the war and leave Germany and the Soviet Union to fight it out between themselves. Churchill was utterly opposed to this and the two factions struggled, possibly extending to an assassination attempt on Churchill, until Hess was assassinated in a sabotaged plane crash which also killed the then Duke of Kent. It seems peace talks were about to start. So not only was he a fervent anti-Bolshevik whowanted to use tanks to put down the General Strike but he engineered an outcome to the war which led to it going on three years longer than necessary, with millions more deaths plus the Holocaust (guarantees of the welfare of jewish people in Nazi occupied countries was a main element in the peace faction's demands.) As you can tell I'm not a Chuchill fan, the monstrous personality cult that grew up around him was a propaganda ploy to cover all this up, history written by the winners and all that. I read that , unfortunately imo much of it was BS ... for one , its not certain that Hitler had any knowledge of the peace plan .. and for two the evidence surrounding Hess's 'double' is spurious to the extreme .the book alleges that the guy in Spandau prison was in fact not Hess ,hmm . why would Britain want to end the war just as it was starting to win .. imo its easy to castigate or glorify historic figures , but we werent there at the time , and to me it seems churchill was the right man at the right time , Britain was in dire straights when Churchill took office .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanso Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 In Bengal, Churchill is regarded the way the west regards Hitler because of the famine he engineered in which millions of Indians died of starvation. Churchill destroyed Bengali rice supplies on which the locals depended - for fear of the rice falling into Japanese hands who were threatening invasion. Churchill despised Indians with a passion, he hated the Irish and the English working class. He rallied the British Empire against Hitler alright but he crushed and betrayed the communist Greeks who at great cost had bravely fought German occupation. On balance, he was a cunt though if you think he was hero that's ok everyone's entitled to their opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 , its not certain that Hitler had any knowledge of the peace plan Sorry I have taken so long to reply, didn't notice the second page. Hitler's personal pilot taught Hess to fly the plane and it seems likely that his deputy could do the whole thing without him knowing. His plane had escorts up to the Dutch coast and there was no purge of Hess collaborators after he arrived here. .the book alleges that the guy in Spandau prison was in fact not Hess There's medical discrepancies, Goering's behaviour toward Hess at the Nuremberg trials and indications of two Hesses in Britain up to the plane crash in 1942. why would Britain want to end the war just as it was starting to win Early 1942 was the lowest point of the war for Britain, Singapore had gone, Burma was being invaded by Japan and Tobruk had fallen. Churchill had failed to secure any victories and was deeply unpopular in parliament and the country. There's far more to it than just this one book. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 it seems likely By which of course I meant unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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