Just a heads up if anyone is thinking of any significant investment in GroveBags.

The latest batch (2024) of GroveBags in the UK, the zipper seals are failing after a few openings making them useless for odour and curing. They're aware of the issues, but so far (3 months) they've failed to refund or replace them after my replacements failed faster than the ones originally bought . The male part of the seal gets stuck in the female groove, ripping it off its base detaching it from its side. 

I would normally write this off as a junk product but for the price they should last more than a few openings, and my 2020 1/lb windowed bags are still going strong just looking a bit crumpled but perfectly sealed... 

My first thought was to just bag the plant up in one of those vacuum storage bags and chuck it in the loft/shed for the day, but I'm a tiny bit worried about increasing the chance of mould or something weird happening. 

I guess I could stick that bag in the fridge, cooler temps should reduce the chance or rot right? Maybe chuck some silica gel in with it? 

What do you lot reckon? Got any other ideas?  From the looks of things right now she's going to absolutely stink . 

I am sure this has been asked a thousand times but various searches havent yielded the results I wanted....

Really got sick of trimming after my last grow, osteoarthritis in most of my joints especially in my hands means that every hour on the wet trimming means I have to smoke at least two spliffs to combat the pain and I am sure you can imagine what those buds start to look like after 3 or 4 hours work..... Usual yield is around 40oz so it takes a good few hours!!

Hoping for a bit more on my current grow and have decided to bite the bullet and get a motorised trimmer to help out the hands and of course the patience!

Good deal on this at the moment

Trimzilla Warrior Cut Leaf 18" Automatic Power Trimmer at 250.00 at a well known grow shop.

Wondered what everyone's thoughts on this sort of set up and is it worth going this route or does someone have a decent alternative that doesnt involve sticking dry buds into a "Sports Holdall" and smashing the shit out of them..... You know the product I mean!

Any pitfalls I should be aware of when drying etc as I usually trim on the stem and then hang, using the electric means I will just have buds which will need a net of some sort I am guessing

Or is there an alternative to the sports holdall approach that is gentler and doesnt knock half the Triches off as it does its thing?

Questions, questions, questions....

TIA for any comments

I just had to try. 

So one food vacuum sealer machine purchase later and some rehydration of some previously chopped bud.

Sweet tooth A - humidity about 65%

Sweet tooth B - humidity about 85% - smelling very nice indeed now it been reydrated.

Cheese hack - humidity about 85% - not smelly so nice more just wet type smell.

I proceeded to roll up my first cobs.

The Cheese hack cob first - ended up a bit thinner than i wanted.

I used baking paper to help tighten the wrap as I dont have a sushi mat thing - which tore almost straight away so used a dish cloth as well to help roll it up.

The Sweet tooth cob - i tried to mix the two together as evenly as possible - again ended up a but thinner than i wanted.

All ready for the sweat

And into the sweat they went.  I am using a seed mat to get the temp up with it wrapped around the cobs and a blanket - going to keep a very close eye on it as could be a bit of a fire risk.  Temps already at over 40C.

Hopefully in about 48 hours they will look ready for a ferment.

Unfortunately I only spotted @Hombre del Monte post update re using a plastic pipe to form them in after I had finished - ah well next time.

As per another topic, I was looking at the 'cannatrol' unit online. As far as I can tell it's a thermoelectric cooler (a peltier cooler based fridge) on a dew point controller. I figured I could have a pop at making one. I could have missed something fundamental about the cannatrol, but I don't believe so. So the same thing, if not better could be achieved with a wine cooler and humidity control, provided both temp and RH can be controlled, it's the same as regulating dew point. These boxes have so much potential as you can exactly control the temp and RH for different phases of drying and curing. The box is completely sealed so no air exchange or moisture exchange. Terp retention is immediately obvious. Difference is genuinely huge if, like me your drying game was the weakest link. I've been monitoring with a Bluetooth rh/temp sensor and it's been very precisely controllable.

I am still fine tuning but so far this works from fresh chopped:

- 3 days at 45% 17c

- 3 days at 50% 16c

- 3 days until as long as you like at 60% 16c

Rh set on the inkbird, temp on the cooler.

Theoretically you can just leave them in there indefinitely at that point, or jar them up. I notice the cannatrol has a sponge in a dish for humidification. So far that hasn't seemed necessary. If anyone knows something about the cannatrol I've missed, feel free to let me know! I can't see exactly how they route the supplementary dehumidifier but assume it's partially external. Maybe they don't have one and rely on the dehumidification provided by the peltier cooler... although that'd be naff.

There's only really room for about a bar or so, I may buy another. These aren't really upscalable. So I'm using it for my choice persy selection.

My unit is a cookology one that's £169. Dehumidifier was 30. Inkbird maybe 30 or so. A lot cheaper than a cannatrol. Excuse the shite everywhere.

These work differently to a compressor fridge which would be no use. They don't strip moisture from the air as much as compressor fridges and also cool down to 10 ish c below ambient only, generally down to about 12c lowest. The benefit of these is that they are a sealed box. I added a very small dehumidifier (also thermoelectric) with a drain hose. These generate a small amount of heat and it's a small space, so no point having a powerful one. 

I cut a hole in the back. This comes with a serious health warning. They fill these with foam containing pentane so it's flammable. Im drilling through a metal case into that foam so it's probably a bad idea. Take no responsibility for you doing it. I took out the plastic and a core of foam first. Sprayed down and cut slowly. Then threaded through the power lead for the dehumidifier. Then the inkbird RH sensor (this is used to control the dehumidifier).

Mounted the sensor inside. I also removed some of the rear housing to allow better exchange on the rear heatsink, again at risk - this exposes the PCB to a greater extent.

Next step I unclip the temp sensor from the fan housing and move it out into the cooler. This gives a more accurate ambient reading. You don't need to unscrew the housing like I have here, it's the blue wire, you can unclip the little bead sensor at the front of the casing and bend it straight.

Cables are routed round, shelves cut to accommodate and support dehumidifier, holes filled and totally sealed with foil tape and silicone.

Mount the humidity controller screen to the outside, plug socket for the inkbird with the dehumidifier plugged into it.

Unscrew and remove the drain tray from underneath

 ....and a hose can be attached from dehumidifier to drain, then another section added underneath. Hose can then drip into a bucket under a shelf. You can't run it straight through as the drain bends inside the casing.

With this setup no excess moisture should gather on the bottom from the cooler as the dehumidifier mops it all up. There aren't many dehumidifiers that are this small with drain hoses, but I found mine on that site of bezos'.

All of that said, it's an interesting beast.

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About to get a pocket microscope . Looking at the Carson brand and the Microbrite model. Just seeing if anyone recommends any others before I buy one. 

Thanks In Advance 

So last harvest, dried for about a week at 60/60, then into jars, regularly opened until RH stabilised at 62 ish.

I tend to only grow every 2 years, so the harvest has to last, in the past its been in jars in an old, not plugged in fridge, and it keeps ok, but by the end of two years its getting ropey. So this time I will vac seal the jars and I have bought a wine cooler and keep them at 4c.

But when? Lets say I vac seal now and go into the cooler.....seems like the best way to preserve fresheness and terps.......but......are they curing in there or are they just being stored?

Curing must be a chemical process, surely that process will work more with air rather than in a vacuum and like any chemical process the low temps will slow it down.

Two of my three strains apparently benefit from a long cure.....but are they curing at 4c in vaccum sealed jars?

Now there are other factors at play here, if I dont cure in the wine cooler temps in my room at times will get to 20c plus.......so even if they answer is they arent curing in the cooler, I may go that route anyway.

Looking for opinions please as to whether this plant is good for the chop??

Lazy bag seed grow started 2nd feb.

Many thanks

Itsa

Anyone tried vacuume it? I mean in container

Looking at long term storage

It's 23 with 50% humidity but fans are running at 100% as its trying to get the down to temperature is this ok or should I turn the fans down.

Thanks

Anyone used or got much experience using a dry trim bag?

Are they any good ?

Are they worth the money and is there much difference between different makes and price tags ?

Any opinions or info appreciated. 

Sheds new smells of pine , no treatment to taint the buds.

Else im hashing the lot .

I decided to empty all the bottles of tincture into a glass container and let the alcohol evaporate naturally, it's been doing this for about 3 months and this is the result...

Shiny and sticky as fuck!

There's about a 3mm layer at the bottom of the container, I took some last night in capsules and I slept 2 hours longer than I normally do but I had some crazy dreams as well.

I never expected it to last this long tbh and because it was just sitting in a cupboard it's naturally decarbed and it tastes like it too.

I was trying to think of a way of making it taste a little better so it can tide me over until Croptober, I was hoping the autos I grew would fill this little gap but they didn't.

I decided to try soaking some buds in pure freshly squeezed lemon juice and was pleasantly surprised at the results.

There's a definite lemonyness to them and they smoke fine...

Old Buds

Sieve Out the Pithy Stuff and Seeds

Replace Lid and Shake

I left it soaking for a few hours then strained off the excess and allowed them to dry out, smokes fine.

It's not crazy lemony but the flavour is definitely there.  

I was beginning to worry that I'd have to cut one of my plants early but now I'm totally not bothered, this'll do me until harvest time.  

The buds are from a Northern Lights x Skunk and a Heavy Grapefruit, two plants that I didn't get around to trimming in 2021 because I grew too many plants (13) and was pissed off with trimming.

As I was harvesting I was continually rolling the sticky off my fingers until I have a hazelnut sized ball. It's got little bits of leaf in it as they came off as I was trimming.

So what to do with it ? Just treat it as regular hash, heat & crumble into a joint. Or is there some other way.

I recall shoe hash being mentioned before ?

Seems a shame to waste it. 

Took all my clothes off in the garage except shoes and socks.
Walked through the garden all sexy and naked into my house. 
Stop imagining a naked wizard philospher you sick fuck.

Anyway I'm in the house got some ona down and around but I'm getting a faint whiff from somewhere.
Is it my skin or something? ( I was doing it shirtless) 

I'm about to take a shower shortly anyway but just wondering why there's a terp cloud in my kitchen following me about. 

I tend to chop inside my tent. wondering what else I can do to prevent this in the future? Thanks