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Joolz

GPs warned against involvement in ‘Cancard’ cannabis ID scheme

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The BMA and RCGP have said they do not support a scheme to provide ID cards for people who qualify for a legal cannabis prescription.

 

Concerns have been raised by practices about the Cancard UK website which offers the ability to apply for a holographic photo ID card to be verified by the patients GP.

 

The card, which costs £19.99 a year plus a one off £10 admin fee, is proposed for people who qualify for a prescription of medicinal cannabis but are unable to afford one.

 

It allows police officers to exercise discretion by understanding that the patient caught in possession is medicating for their condition, information on the website states. 

 

To apply, patients need to meet certain criteria including having a diagnosis (confirmed by their GP) that is currently being prescribed for privately and having tried two types of prescription medication or have discussed and discounted these options based on side effects or dependence concerns.

 

Patients are asked to provide their GP details for confirmation or a copy of their summary care record.

 

GPs can now prescribe cannabis-based medicinal products under a shared care agreement as long as the initial prescription was made by a specialist.

 

In a statement the BMA and RCGP said they support the use of cannabis-based products for medicinal use in humans under the supervision of specialist clinicians or prescription of MHRA-authorised licenced products by doctors who have the necessary clinical experience.

 

But they could not support the use of the Cancard, ‘nor the suggestion that UK registered GPs sign a declaration confirming a diagnosis in order for the card to be issued’.

 

‘The Cancard UK website states that the Cancard has been designed in collaboration with GPs but as far as we are aware there is no formal endorsement from the Royal College of GPs, nor has the BMA, as your trade union, been consulted,’ the statement said.

 

‘Whilst we sympathise with patients who struggle to pay a private prescription charge, we do not believe that this is a justifiable reason to encourage the purchase of unregulated unlicensed cannabis products from unregulated or illegal dealers.’

 

The statement added that if a patient is deemed to meet the criteria for an NHS prescription for an MHRA authorised product then this may be issued where appropriate. Patients on low incomes or with medical conditions qualifying for prescription charge exemption will be exempt from prescription charge in line with current regulations.

 

Carly Barton, the creator of Cancard said the verification process had been designed with a medical working group of eight doctors that included GPs.

 

‘In order to verify the patient has a condition there is the option for a patient to submit a summary of care, or, we can confirm with their GP that they have a diagnosis listed.

 

‘This is in no way implicating a doctor in the recommendation of using or not using a medicine, it is simply a way of confirming the patient has a condition.’ 

She added: ‘The feedback from GPs so far has been incredibly positive, it is very much being seen as a harm reduction tool in order for their patients to feel less stress over possible criminalisation simply for maintaining their health.’

 

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/pain/gps-warned-against-involvement-in-cancard-cannabis-id-scheme/

 

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6 minutes ago, Joolz said:

The card, which costs £19.99 a year plus a one off £10 admin fee

 

why does it cost 19.99 a year ?
surely once its issued then it's issued

 

 

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I don't like the fact that your name is on a database saying that you consume cannabis. Plus there's nothing stopping a copper just being a cunt like most are and ignoring it.

 

I'm sure the creators aren't making money of this either :wassnnme:

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8 minutes ago, Joolz said:

doctors who have the necessary clinical experience.

 

Considering the lack of trials and training I'll be amazed if there are any 'specialists' or docs who have the right and informed knowledge.

 

Just now, Joolz said:

surely once its issued then it's issued

 

(:offtopic:...sorry boss but it sorta fits)...I thought the same about the disabled blue badge, until I came to renew the mrs' one,

talk about jumping through fecking hoops...and the bastards charge a tenner for the privilege...

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When this first came out I thought result but looking into it further it screamed alarm bells to me.

 

Unfortunately I'm not as well versed as many of you when it comes to cannabis activism but I know that people have tried for this sort of legitimate scheme but while it is still illegal surely a card you have to pay £19.99 a year presumably for admin costs is screaming come bust me!

 

It turns out there isn't much recourse for lying on a website, that's if you get caught in the first place! With doctors being allowed to write prescriptions for the most severe epilepsy cases but they don't why would the run of the mill GP's support this? Bonkers!

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I think the possibility of being sued also makes the majority of docs think twice before putting their name on a script for anyone,

especially when we still have the 'reefer madness brigade' alive and kicking.

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Just now, Kush Lover said:

a card you have to pay £19.99 a year presumably for admin costs

 

they charge an admin fee of  £10 on top of the £19.99 lol

 

surely the £10 admin fee more than covers the cost of the card and posting it and typing the name and ID number into their database ?

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It's all about funneling profits. No card, no GP liability, no doubt paid for by big pharma and tobacco :wassnnme:

Oh and the police and prison service obviously 

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In a statement the BMA and RCGP said they support the use of cannabis-based products for medicinal use in humans under the supervision of specialist clinicians or prescription of MHRA-authorised licenced products by doctors who have the necessary clinical experience.

Regardless of the pros and cons of the card the above reads more like a cartel protecting there income.As far as im aware the only route to legal medical weed is through a private prescription, allowing the card bearers to source weed from other sources is  going to meen the private practitioners loosing out on  income

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43 minutes ago, Joolz said:

 

they charge an admin fee of  £10 on top of the £19.99 lol

 

surely the £10 admin fee more than covers the cost of the card and posting it and typing the name and ID number into their database ?

 

lol thanks for pointing out the obvious @Joolz, not so obvious to some of us!

 

£10 would more than cover the admin and I guess the £19.99 is just an affordable amount people think oh will its only £20 a year for a "get out of jail" card.

 

Can you imagine getting searched by the police then explaining to the officer not to worry I have a card that covers this, that would get pretty awkward pretty quickly I imagine.

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Ah, but illegal weed is that dangerous skunk stuff that causes psychosis, whereas the legal weed you need a private prescription for and costs a fortune that's grown by a select few license holders (selected by their friends/relatives in the tory government) is special medical cannabis, they're completely different things...

 

:rolleyes:

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Pay a score or just keep quiet n crack on :/ no brainer for me tbh.

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it’s fecking legal in the states ffs, America, the biggest pushers of the drug war for the last 40 years! can we not just get over this con of a money grab for a plant that is a weed and never killed anyone lol 

 

ITS PURE INSANITY! (that cannabis can fix btw

 

I read a science type paper the other day that said the best way to deal with cannabis abuse is with THC! lollol 

put that in ye pipe and smoke it prohibitionists! :smokin:

 

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I'll bet the Tories would love to legalise the herb after seeing the yanks make oodles from it, but since they've been convincing their voters that it's from the devil for the past century they're stuck with all this dodgy backdoor shit.

 

Poor Tories :(

 

lol

 

 

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