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My plants are two weeks in flower and two of them the very growing tip has started to yellow up a bit its goin like a light yellow I have seen this before but im stuck for an answer any ideas
QUOTE(Fatmanbob @ Jul 18 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]1023690[/snapback]
my Guess is it's underfed,rootrot or broken timer. best of luck. Any chane of a Piccy?
Timer fine root rot I don't know under fed maybe yeah, I will get a pic but its just what I say the buds going very light green/yellow has anyone seen this before
I have just switched from veg to bloom feed a few days ago and my plants have shown a N deficiency low down could this be linked to the slight yellowing of the buds.
If so what do I need to do any help much appreciated
If so what do I need to do any help much appreciated
Heres some pics I am unable to get a close up my digi camera just blurs so this is the best I can do the temps in my room have been up to 83 is this too hot the weather has been roasting so theres not much I can do but please av a luk n tell me wot you think
it looks all good to me mate, its just the new growth as your flowering. healthy i thinks.... phil 
Did I allow this plant to get too high do you think its bout 24 inches and I only av 1 600W light (three bigish plants)
Too big????
defo mate its cool and tha gang, good luck with the rest ov ur grow.... phil 
Cheers mat its just I see the grow tips start to turn slight yellow and I think oh no have to nip this before it becomes a problem.
Is it common for the very tip of the bud to turn light yellow anyone else seen this
Is it common for the very tip of the bud to turn light yellow anyone else seen this
Quit fretting - they're healthy plants. New growth often takes on a lime green colour.
Thanks bish will the light green/yellow be with the plant throughout flower or should it clear up a bit.
Because i'm pretty new I see yellow and panic thinking whats going wrong.
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When I look at my plants under the HPS they look real light but under normal lighting they are green as cabbages its unreal how different they look under different lights
Because i'm pretty new I see yellow and panic thinking whats going wrong.
PS
When I look at my plants under the HPS they look real light but under normal lighting they are green as cabbages its unreal how different they look under different lights
yeah I,m an artist and when I paint under normal tungsten light I see more red spec , it's surprising
as for the plants .. sound as a pound ..
as for the plants .. sound as a pound ..
Just had a look at my plants the bigger plant thats shower the yellowest buds is getting slightly worse, and it had dropped a leaf its showing an obvious N deficiency. Is this due to changing the feed to bloom?
Would it be a good idea to give this plant a dose of veg nutrient, would an N deficiency cause the tip of the bud to turn slightly yellow.
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I'm trying not to fret but things have went v well so far and I have seen them turn to shit in a snap I really don't want that to happen.
This problem is getting worse so should I be worrying or am I panicing again!!!
Would it be a good idea to give this plant a dose of veg nutrient, would an N deficiency cause the tip of the bud to turn slightly yellow.
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I'm trying not to fret but things have went v well so far and I have seen them turn to shit in a snap I really don't want that to happen.
This problem is getting worse so should I be worrying or am I panicing again!!!
Is it a bad idea giving this yellow plant a dose of veg nutrients two and a half weeks into flower. how else might I get it green again.
They look great to me, give it a week and the colour should change as mine did the same, started to flower a real light colour then tada all was well 
plant look nice and healthy chap, so dont worrie and let them grow.
i know its hard to not fret as u have spent time and money on ur grow and when its gos to shit make u feel shit.#
but if u got good seed stock then all should be ok, just keep awatchful eye and try not to woorie
bowcon
i know its hard to not fret as u have spent time and money on ur grow and when its gos to shit make u feel shit.#
but if u got good seed stock then all should be ok, just keep awatchful eye and try not to woorie
bowcon
I agree, they look fine. If the fan leaves start yellowing a lot at the bottom of the plant, that's N def. But it will be very obvious, yours aren't showing that. Chill.
With Biobizz organic nutes it's usual to mix in a bit of grow along with the bloom, usually 1 ml per litre right throughout flowering, but I'm not familiar with the nutes you're using.
With Biobizz organic nutes it's usual to mix in a bit of grow along with the bloom, usually 1 ml per litre right throughout flowering, but I'm not familiar with the nutes you're using.
Thanks for all your reply's i'm using advanced iguana juice and all the other alleged organic line. You can't see on the pics but the lower leaves are going yellow one even dropped off yesterday. So maybe I do need to do something what do you guys reckon.
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I grow in all mix using advanced organic nutes, now I have heard on here we don't flush when using organic, but I also heard that advanced aren't even proper organic so the conundrum do I need to flush or better put stop feeding two weeks prior to harvest time.
Thanks
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I grow in all mix using advanced organic nutes, now I have heard on here we don't flush when using organic, but I also heard that advanced aren't even proper organic so the conundrum do I need to flush or better put stop feeding two weeks prior to harvest time.
Thanks
firdt off dont worrie about fushin yet, just see what happens
second take off dead leaves as there not doing ur plat any goiod
but stoned so i m rambling
but please just chill out and enjoy ur growing experience
it looks fine just leave it alone anfd let her grow
bowcon
second take off dead leaves as there not doing ur plat any goiod
but stoned so i m rambling
but please just chill out and enjoy ur growing experience
it looks fine just leave it alone anfd let her grow
bowcon
It's not unusual to lose a few lower leaves. If you could show us a couple of side-on, whole-plant pics, we can give you a definite answer.
Hi EM2, a few of the fan leaves died off on the lower half of my plant as well, it was nothing to worry about - it was because there was very little light getting through to the bottom as the canopy was so thick with leaves, I should of cut all the foilage off the bottom third before start of flowering but we live and learn 
Thanks lads for your help I will get some pics later when the lights come on, I must admit i'm a worrier I see yellow and think fuk I av fuked up obviously not.
Thanks again.
Another question my clones are coming on great now I av them under a cheap fluorescent just a little thging 26 W its a square light you know the types any way the plants will soon outgrow this light.
So the question would an enviro light be good enough for my clones I don't consider a MH an option as I would need another cool tube and more fans etc. plus it would be too hot for my little home made closet is this ok.
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I'm going to bonsai them but I cant find OT1's link can any one point me in the right direction.
Thanks again.
Another question my clones are coming on great now I av them under a cheap fluorescent just a little thging 26 W its a square light you know the types any way the plants will soon outgrow this light.
So the question would an enviro light be good enough for my clones I don't consider a MH an option as I would need another cool tube and more fans etc. plus it would be too hot for my little home made closet is this ok.
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I'm going to bonsai them but I cant find OT1's link can any one point me in the right direction.
a blue spec enviro is suitable for clones whilst vegging i think
bowcon
bowcon
QUOTE(bowcon @ Jul 21 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]1026850[/snapback]
a blue spec enviro is suitable for clones whilst vegging i think
bowcon
bowcon
Isn't there a better light not HPS or MH enviros are big and numb and I smashed mine the other week I was devastated you know adjusting it and then drop.......... smash oh well no one to blame but myself.
I'd go for a 125 Watt blue spectrum enviro. You can do all your vegging under it you want, works pretty well. I don't reckon the 200s are worth it.
QUOTE(squirrel @ Jul 21 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]1026869[/snapback]
I'd go for a 125 Watt blue spectrum enviro. You can do all your vegging under it you want, works pretty well. I don't reckon the 200s are worth it.
Whats the difference whats wrong with the 200 W don't they give that much more light out, I couldn't find them in the 420shop.
Anyone got the link to bonsai mothers, how big do u reckon I should grow my clones before bonsai'ing them
Cheers
the 200w eviros are double the price and not much more light output. ur proberly better off getting 2 125w enviros
all the best
bowcon
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QUOTE(bowcon @ Jul 21 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]1026937[/snapback]
the 200w eviros are double the price and not much more light output. ur proberly better off getting 2 125w enviros
all the best
bowcon
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Nice one
QUOTE(Bish @ Jul 21 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1027317[/snapback]
Cheers I noticed it above this sub forum pinned what a wally ey! my cuts are comeing along now they not as big as OT1's though but surely I can just keep clipping them to keep em low and bring them on
The yellowing is getting worse what is this an N def the other plants are starting it as well now what can I do I have tried upping the strength of the feed im running the risk of over fertilising
They look good from above but this is the sight below
I once heard in soft secrets right or wrong that its normal to get an N deficiency when we swap over to bloom nutrients is that right surely its not ideal
Any suggestions
Can't tell much from the first two pics, top down pics aren't much use for diagnosing nutrient defs as they often show at the bottom of the plant first. The third pic looks like either N def or Mg def, but I'm not entirely sure, haven't seen one quite like that. 
Stripy leaves is usually Mg, but in your pic it looks like the veins are yellow and the bits between are green, which is the wrong way round.
Stripy leaves is usually Mg, but in your pic it looks like the veins are yellow and the bits between are green, which is the wrong way round.
It started bout a week ago I thought they needed more strength nute, I also add some bat guano how long before this is available.
The other plants are starting to show this too so if I can stop it that would be marvelous
The other plants are starting to show this too so if I can stop it that would be marvelous
deffo bottom leafs? not a bit higher?
perhaps n at the bottom at first, but now more the lower part of the plant, not the very bottom?
perhaps n at the bottom at first, but now more the lower part of the plant, not the very bottom?
QUOTE(friendly electrician @ Jul 22 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]1028598[/snapback]
deffo bottom leafs? not a bit higher?
perhaps n at the bottom at first, but now more the lower part of the plant, not the very bottom?
perhaps n at the bottom at first, but now more the lower part of the plant, not the very bottom?
What do you mean
Do you actually have the answer or not?
yeah i probably do, but first i need to know the question. try posting the pics and info thats asked of you, and you might get to find out too
First and foremost, are you judging the colour of said plants why they are under the HPS? Cause if you are, they will look yellow. Shade with your hand then look, when you look at the colour without the effect of the HPS it looks astonishingly different.
QUOTE(friendly electrician @ Jul 23 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]1028730[/snapback]
yeah i probably do, but first i need to know the question. try posting the pics and info thats asked of you, and you might get to find out too
The question is obvious the pics are up
Perhaps a real grower will come along and advise.
QUOTE(happee_daze @ Jul 23 2007, 01:54 AM) [snapback]1028809[/snapback]
First and foremost, are you judging the colour of said plants why they are under the HPS? Cause if you are, they will look yellow. Shade with your hand then look, when you look at the colour without the effect of the HPS it looks astonishingly different.
The pics were taken out of the grow room under a normal light bulb but thanks for your reply
dont u get yellowing ofv the lower leave when flowering due to light not geting to them, so thell die off.
im not sure but the buds and top of the plant still look fine to me.
bowcon
im not sure but the buds and top of the plant still look fine to me.
bowcon
They look like they are hungry for N to me
I can see clay pebbles on the top,are they mixed in the compost too cos they are not needed in the mix
I'd make my next feed up with 75% grow 25% bloom
Owd
I can see clay pebbles on the top,are they mixed in the compost too
cos they are not needed in the mixI'd make my next feed up with 75% grow 25% bloom
Owd
The clay balls are not in the compost no I put them on top because the guy in the grow shop reckoned it would stop the pot from drying out I know for next time.
I added 1/3 perlite to my compost is this not needed either is all mix enough on its own what would you mix in with the compost OWD.
My nutrients are advanced iguana are they ok to mix grow and bloom together and how many doses of this would you give them.
Like I said the other plants are just starting so maybe this will fix thm up hopefully.
Thanks Owderb I knew it wouldn't be long untill a real grower came along.
I added 1/3 perlite to my compost is this not needed either is all mix enough on its own what would you mix in with the compost OWD.
My nutrients are advanced iguana are they ok to mix grow and bloom together and how many doses of this would you give them.
Like I said the other plants are just starting so maybe this will fix thm up hopefully.
Thanks Owderb I knew it wouldn't be long untill a real grower came along.
QUOTE(oldtimer1 @ Aug 20 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]659620[/snapback]
Most composts you buy are made with as near perfect balance of water/air retention as they can make them. Ok some are much better than others, members here try them all and report back, from that we get to hear what do best.
There is a whole wide world of horticulture out there, early indoor cannabis growers, ignored the experience of the professional gardening/growing industry and its methods. Being stoners tried the lazy way, thought I want a big plant and went for 10 or 20 gallon pots and planted a seed.
The problem is that compost is not a living soil, its a medium made to replicate soil.
A pot full of saturated compost and no rootmass soon goes anaerobic and sour, pathogenic fungi thrive and the seedling dies or it grows into a very sick plant. Does the stoned hippy look at what the industry does? No! He says the compost was waterlogged, I’ll give it more drainage, soon there were books recommending 50 or 70% perlite to compost! Does that remedy the problem? Well only to some extent, some fungal diseases still caused problems and at time killed the seedling also it made for feeding problems. So gradually potting on was used, but for some unknown reason adding a shed load of perlite to the compost was retained as well.
Don’t get me wrong, you can grow any plant in neat perlite using chemical salt fertilisers, its a crude form of water culture or hydroponics as its called nowadays.
Compost by its nature is made to be an ideal root medium as I said, its designed to retain as much air and water in the right proportions to supply a plants needs as well as containing all the nutrient reserves a plant needs for several weeks growth when rooted through it.
If you have a 10 litre pot with half compost and half perlite, its the same as growing in 5 litres of compost so it will require over double the watering and supplementary feeding from the start. The idea of a good compost is that it supplies a plant with all needs of food and water with as little attention from the grower as possible. Believe me if there was a better way every commercial company producing plants would be doing it and revised compost mixes would replace the ones out there now. Its not the case, instead ways of adding water, air and nutrient retention for longer periods while the medium stays fresh are the current aims. Composts are improving, John Innes was the first standardised compost in the world, its nowhere when compared with some of the newer composts being developed today, the other problem with JI composts is the manufacturers can’t get the natural ingredients that made it a great compost in its day.
Does that answer your questions?
There is a whole wide world of horticulture out there, early indoor cannabis growers, ignored the experience of the professional gardening/growing industry and its methods. Being stoners tried the lazy way, thought I want a big plant and went for 10 or 20 gallon pots and planted a seed.
The problem is that compost is not a living soil, its a medium made to replicate soil.
A pot full of saturated compost and no rootmass soon goes anaerobic and sour, pathogenic fungi thrive and the seedling dies or it grows into a very sick plant. Does the stoned hippy look at what the industry does? No! He says the compost was waterlogged, I’ll give it more drainage, soon there were books recommending 50 or 70% perlite to compost! Does that remedy the problem? Well only to some extent, some fungal diseases still caused problems and at time killed the seedling also it made for feeding problems. So gradually potting on was used, but for some unknown reason adding a shed load of perlite to the compost was retained as well.
Don’t get me wrong, you can grow any plant in neat perlite using chemical salt fertilisers, its a crude form of water culture or hydroponics as its called nowadays.
Compost by its nature is made to be an ideal root medium as I said, its designed to retain as much air and water in the right proportions to supply a plants needs as well as containing all the nutrient reserves a plant needs for several weeks growth when rooted through it.
If you have a 10 litre pot with half compost and half perlite, its the same as growing in 5 litres of compost so it will require over double the watering and supplementary feeding from the start. The idea of a good compost is that it supplies a plant with all needs of food and water with as little attention from the grower as possible. Believe me if there was a better way every commercial company producing plants would be doing it and revised compost mixes would replace the ones out there now. Its not the case, instead ways of adding water, air and nutrient retention for longer periods while the medium stays fresh are the current aims. Composts are improving, John Innes was the first standardised compost in the world, its nowhere when compared with some of the newer composts being developed today, the other problem with JI composts is the manufacturers can’t get the natural ingredients that made it a great compost in its day.
Does that answer your questions?
Yeah Owd marvelous no more perlite, do you put a layer of clay balls in the bottom of your pots or is this not good advice either.
PS
What is a good compost that beats all mix a one available from a garden centre would be good as this would stop me visiting a high profile grow shop.
Thanks
PS
What is a good compost that beats all mix a one available from a garden centre would be good as this would stop me visiting a high profile grow shop.
Thanks
QUOTE(Electric man 2 @ Jul 23 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]1029184[/snapback]
Yeah Owd marvelous no more perlite, do you put a layer of clay balls in the bottom of your pots or is this not good advice either.
OT1 on adding things to compost.
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What is a good compost that beats all mix a one available from a garden centre would be good as this would stop me visiting a high profile grow shop.
J Arthur Bowers mltipurpose is widely available and seems to be doing well in the compost trials. A lot of people were using and recommending Westlands MP+JI, including me, but they changed the formula this year and the new one is crap.
Is this JAB available in B&Q and is there only the one type is it organic or near enough will do.
Does it beat allmix
regards
Does it beat allmix
regards
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