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vigor
People that live that way, can't live for long i guess. Got a picture of him? If i see him i'll teckle him tongue.gif Hope he face plants smile.gif
908
A very informing read.
How much hassle does a bad breeder cause a grower?

Parting with your hard earned cash.
The wait for the beans to arrive and then germ.
Then of course the wasted 3-4 months of growing something that is not what it says on the tin.
There may even be a case for you handling STOLEN goods rofl.gif 908
catfish
im thinking of inviteing him to the expo later in the years i might even pose as a seed dealer and ask for a meet ,beat him rob him then let the rest of you boys take over does that sound ok ,any pics available of him
Owderb
Topic split

Please stay on topic

Thanks

Owd
arai
bloody hell, i remember looking at his seeds a few years ago & was tempted to get some, bloody glad i didnt get them now !

i cant believe i missed this thread in the 1st place & i wouldnt have been too happy knowing i'd got some other breeders
seeds off this unscrupolus shitehawk, especially if the genetics came from OldTimer & Ace seeds plus the other folk he's duped.


& as some else has said, he's renamed himself & his seed company again & will continue to do so until karma catches up with him !

full credit to OT1 for keeping a dignified face on the whole sorry episode.




e2a- bda pselling
felix_dzerjinski
QUOTE(hairy face @ May 30 2008, 09:14 AM) *
I notice he doesn't have "distribution problems" any more - now it's "shipping problems". How hard is it to post something? lol.gif


Always some kind of problem lol.gif
b_boy1980
All,

In My Experience, i also had dealings with this Queijo Character about 4 years ago over some Vision Thai seeds.

Didn't receive the Seeds but did However Receive these Seeds Shown in the Pic, along with some cuttings for being messed about.

Funnily enough, I Stumbled on these old seeds in one of my old University boxes a few days ago during a search in my loft.

Strange Timing really as I've just put the Cheese x Trainwreck in for germination about 10 minutes ago and reading this post about the Same Guy.

Are we to say then that these Seeds are more than likley going to be duds?

Peace.
RubbaDub
oh maaan..... History repeats itself....

I just found this thread.... I wish I would have found it back in December, before I fell in lust with Breeders Choice's offerings of pure landrace strains.... Now I've been burned, but the lesson's been learned. Avoid any dealings with HotHouseFlowers. Luckily, I only ordered on pack of beans. I never order more than that any time I try out a new vendor. What sucks is other people who sent in lots of funds, including one med grower who sent in around $1000 for seedstock... they're now waiting, with nothing but repeated empty promises of "they're ready to go, will ship next week!".

QUOTE(Outlaw @ Aug 3 2007, 04:21 PM) *
first he steals the seed, then he hypes the seed, then he takes orders for the seed, then he blames distribution problems for the seed never arriving then he dissappears and then he comes back and reinvents himself and the same mug website owners gives him another home

birds of a feather rofl.gif

FD
could never bump this thread too often
bro-d
You know that FD!!! cool.gif it passed me first time round excl.gif

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apex
excl.gif There's still a lot more people who need to read this thread and realise hhf is a liar and thief.
Lazlo Woodbine
QUOTE(apex @ Aug 5 2008, 07:31 PM) *
excl.gif There's still a lot more people who need to read this thread and realise hhf is a liar and thief.



Should be pinned .... wink.gif


Laz

Electric man 2
QUOTE(Lazlo Woodbine @ Aug 5 2008, 08:00 PM) *
QUOTE(apex @ Aug 5 2008, 07:31 PM) *
excl.gif There's still a lot more people who need to read this thread and realise hhf is a liar and thief.



Should be pinned .... wink.gif


Laz



Agreed, I can't believe that ICmag stood by the guy, anyone who spoke out suddenly became a guest poster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hairy face
QUOTE(Lazlo Woodbine @ Aug 5 2008, 08:00 PM) *
QUOTE(apex @ Aug 5 2008, 07:31 PM) *
excl.gif There's still a lot more people who need to read this thread and realise hhf is a liar and thief.



Should be pinned .... wink.gif


Laz

Good thinking batman wink1.gif
Electric man 2
Good thinking indeed!, count yourself luck Laz my old boy, countless people have been banned from many sites for speaking out the truth!, the only question is how did/does he get so well in everywhere? hes bumped everyone!

Halfatree
F**k Me..

I missed this post first time round, so glad it has now been pinned at the top, so all members can beware of this dude...

I remember seeing some of his stuff on a auction site, quite a while ago.. Thank goodness, never bought any though.. What a complete scumbag..!
felix_dzerjinski
It's been pinned yahoo.gif
Arnold Layne
QUOTE(RubbaDub @ Jul 15 2008, 05:27 PM) *
What sucks is other people who sent in lots of funds, including one med grower who sent in around $1000 for seedstock... they're now waiting, with nothing but repeated empty promises of "they're ready to go, will ship next week!".

Robbing medi-users now, huh queerjoe?
For that alone Queijo, for that alone. You really should not have done that.
Danklord
Nice one guys. I was vaguely aware of OT1's contribution to breeding and preservation over the years but this thread has filled in the gaps in my canopy, so to speak.

I remember reading ads for HHF and thinking his seeds sounded pretty good, thank christ i read this before i decided to buy anymore stock. Invaluable info guys, respect for bringing it to us new guys attention.

Scribb|e
¿What did you buy off him, when and how much? unsure.gif
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Danklord
Sorry Scribble, i should have been a bit clearer. i've never bought anything from HHF or Quenjo or any of his other alias', i'm just grateful for the info as i'd considered it after seeing an ad in Soft secrets or something.

i've done pretty well until now just buying from well known seedbanks and cloning them to death til i get bored of the smoke spliff.gif
Electric man 2
QUOTE(Danklord @ Aug 13 2008, 05:30 PM) *
after seeing an ad in Soft secrets or something.



Soft secrets should be ashamed as IMO they MUST of definately known about this guy, HHF must have some blag on him cos I have seen a few forums where people were trying to warn about him and the said site stood by him and even banned some pretty long term members which is pretty shocking.

ICmag were the worst, shows how much that site must care ey
namkha
my instinct is to stay out of this kind of thing, but since I spent some time corresponding with the guy, I may know some stuff other people don't:

it may be worth knowing that icmag/seedbay did walk off with a lot of Quejo/HHF's seedbay money once they had found out what he was all about -

as far as I know there is no way to stop him re-registering under yet another alias

which is a real shitter as it makes it even more difficult to know who to trust on these forums - there are several people here and on icmag and breedbay who I suspect of being the same guy posting under various names

if you keep an eye on the strains he has and his style it soon becomes fairly obvious

I know someone personally who sent in a lot of very good Thai and Lao strains to Quejo's site cannabiseye - obviously he never recieved payment, and god knows whether any of his strains ever got sent out... I doubt it

this same friend recently posted me to say he has seen some Thai strains go on sale at breedbay which sound exactly like the ones he sent Quejo/HHF...

I'll let people who are interested fill in the blanks themselves... plenty of smoke there, but how to know if there is fire?

personally I suspect mental illness lies at the core of all this guy's behaviour - genuine cleptomania mixed with a bit of sociopathic bipolar disorder... though fuck knows quite frankly

all best,

Namkha :
Dr Benways Assistant
Since your too nice to say it Namkha I'll take a guess at British Hempire, totally agree with the diagnosis too.
namkha
thing is man I have no way of knowing that for sure

... though interestingly the guy who was posting as British Hempire got a new alias as Ganja_Pasha... but now all of his posts and his id have been erased completely from icmag

I haven't asked the mods why, but it seems like they wanted to erase any trace of him from the boards completely that's for sure

anyway, there is a risk that Quejo will succeed in creating a witch-hunt atmosphere which is pretty unhealthy really

Dr Benways Assistant
Absolutely Namkha no way of knowing at all.

Yeah his deletion was quite abrupt and noticable. I saw his [BH] new strains the other day and thought it really weird he'd never mentioned them before considering his spamming skills and it clicked after what you mentioned above. Could well be that they're just friends, HHF did manage to befriend Zamalito too. All very strange.
neferti420
QUOTE(Dr Benways Assistant @ Aug 15 2008, 11:24 AM) *
Absolutely Namkha no way of knowing at all.

Yeah his deletion was quite abrupt and noticable. I saw his [BH] new strains the other day and thought it really weird he'd never mentioned them before considering his spamming skills and it clicked after what you mentioned above. Could well be that they're just friends, HHF did manage to befriend Zamalito too. All very strange.


British Hempire is not HHF, I've met BH and he didn't look very spanish to me lol.gif. A no-brainer really the writing styles are in no way similar.
Never met HHF but did get promised some seeds from him once, maybe he'll send 'em one day.
Dr Benways Assistant
Yep, just idle gossip on my part no excuse really. It's the dificulty in knowing who to trust can make you suspect everyone of being Like HHF.
widowman11
I'm glad i read this thread, Everyone needs to know about shit heads like him. Respect to all the loyal hardworking guys that got ripped off. wink.gif
namkha
QUOTE(neferti420 @ Aug 17 2008, 10:14 AM) *
QUOTE(Dr Benways Assistant @ Aug 15 2008, 11:24 AM) *
Absolutely Namkha no way of knowing at all.

Yeah his deletion was quite abrupt and noticable. I saw his [BH] new strains the other day and thought it really weird he'd never mentioned them before considering his spamming skills and it clicked after what you mentioned above. Could well be that they're just friends, HHF did manage to befriend Zamalito too. All very strange.


British Hempire is not HHF, I've met BH and he didn't look very spanish to me lol.gif. A no-brainer really the writing styles are in no way similar.
Never met HHF but did get promised some seeds from him once, maybe he'll send 'em one day.


Quejo/HHF is not Spanish, he's 100% British -

I am not - just to be clear - saying that I know BH is Quejo, far from it - this is pure gossip and suspicion, nothing more

btw I do know that Quejo did make plenty of effort to write in faux Spanglish at one point - as HHF he claimed to be a Brummie...



bl4ckc4tb0nes
don't matter how many times he changes his name,his face will be known[and quite possibly rearranged]
and theres on old chinese proverb that says"ya can't polish a turd"!!!
sonicgrow
this quejo or whatever his name is, what a wanker, he was after my pack of c99 aswell tryed to befriend me to get them, promising all sorts , sent me some cuts that were all full of borg mad.gif

if i ever meet this dude i'm not sure i would be able to control myself pinch.gif
Bish
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http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=144991
weedheed
QUOTE(asbo420 @ Jul 4 2007, 11:58 AM) *
Just been reading the latest Soft Secrets and stumbled upon an article by Hot House Flowers.
Theres some interesting reading in there about the Haze lines and of course were Haze is mentioned so is OT1.
For those who dont know HotHouseFlowers was previously known as queijo.
queijo set up a seed vendour business were he stole genetics from other breeders hacked them into hermie seeds and sold them to unsuspecting customers (well those lucky enough to receive anything at all after sending him payment).
Instead of dealing fairly with his customers and vendours quiejo packed his bags along with the money he made ripping people off and set himself up in southern spain/portugal.
He then went on to rename all his stolen seed lines and become a breeder under the name of HotHouseFlowers.
At the end of the article in soft secrets queijo goes onto say "it is time for the cannabis seed industry to mature, to become a proffesionally plant breeding environment and act accordingly"
what a f***ing hypoccrite he should start by refunding those he has ripped off.


is that your pic on your aviator lol.gif i hope not my wife l be off looking for you,i love soft secrets keep it well hidden tho, i no loads that have been raided cos of it,love the pic tho.
Razzmatazz
Glad i read all this, because i stumbled upon a site called spam and seeing as tho i have been looking at acquiring some landrace genetics was gonna buy from there cos they SEEM to have nice strains but now i aint gonna waste my cash on that kak!!!
Weedio
QUOTE(Razzmatazz @ Oct 25 2008, 01:02 PM) *
Glad i read all this, because i stumbled upon a site called spam and seeing as tho i have been looking at acquiring some landrace genetics was gonna buy from there cos they SEEM to have nice strains but now i aint gonna waste my cash on that kak!!!


Check out ACE seeds for some landrace, they've got one of the best selections out there and even a support forum here.
Razzmatazz
Thanks weedio, have been itching to get me mits on some OT1 haze and someone also mentioned spam, all i need now is to get some Highland Lao from real seed co.
FD
thief bump
Blayz'd
Sad story that is. Disrespectful, thieving, conning, lying, dishonorable, unvirtuous little twat. To put it lightly.

I was reading through all the threads in the breeding section the other day and went into chat and asked hope what happened to this cheesy queerjoe character. Now his response of quite harsh and fairly colourful language becomes clear.

I can't believe he's still at it after years of screwing decent people over, aswell as a majority of his customers. Hopefully there will come a time when everyone is aware of this history and he will no longer be able to operate on any level.
Dr Benways Assistant
I've recently seen idiots people actually defending this scum hole after waiting 18 months for seeds, words along the lines of "HHF is a stand up guy, sure it may have taken almost a year and a half I had to keep asking him for them the whole time and I didn't get anything I asked for but he's still a great guy." seriously some numpty said that.
Lennon
Another bump for the dirty,robbing scumbag that is HHF!!!!
C More Bud
QUOTE (asbo420 @ Jul 4 2007, 10:58 AM) *
Just been reading the latest Soft Secrets and stumbled upon an article by Hot House Flowers.
Theres some interesting reading in there about the Haze lines and of course were Haze is mentioned so is OT1.
For those who dont know HotHouseFlowers was previously known as queijo.
queijo set up a seed vendour business were he stole genetics from other breeders hacked them into hermie seeds and sold them to unsuspecting customers (well those lucky enough to receive anything at all after sending him payment).
Instead of dealing fairly with his customers and vendours quiejo packed his bags along with the money he made ripping people off and set himself up in southern spain/portugal.
He then went on to rename all his stolen seed lines and become a breeder under the name of HotHouseFlowers.
At the end of the article in soft secrets queijo goes onto say "it is time for the cannabis seed industry to mature, to become a proffesionally plant breeding environment and act accordingly"
what a f***ing hypoccrite he should start by refunding those he has ripped off.

Fucking right he should ...dirty bastard
Scribb|e
Just seen this on a list of canna breeds on a site:

QUOTE
Unclassified cultivars

....
Buddha's Little Sister
Bluberry Kush (L.A. Specific)
Cheese Bx (Queijo Lies)
Chocolate Haze
C-4
....


rofl.gif lol.gif

Also on the same page:

QUOTE
Alot of Seed companies there I have never heard of, including this one. Check out their prices!! They are more expensive than Sensi seeds, hell I could get 8 packs of Jack Herer seeds for the price of their strain called Armageddon X Sirius. Who's ever heard of this?

Doggies Nut, 12 strains - (address removed - S.) Marijuana Seeds
Doggies Nut Seeds?

They claim their Jamaican Haze flowers in 56 days!! They must be working fucking miracles at this place, a Haze dominant Sativa that flowers in 56 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


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-=DrGreenThumb=-
What a fucking Con Artist!

Thanks for bumping this one, not sure if I've read it before but it's a good refresher non the less!

Did he fuck off to Spain so we didn't come and burn his gaff down? whistling.gif

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dlt31
What an absolute disgrace to the Cannabis Community.
A theif, a liar, a fraudster and a con 'artist'...Christ he's had more jobs than I have...

To actually continue getting away with all of this staggers belief...
Why isn't he blackflagged? Why hasn't some1 done something about this HHF/Quirjo/Cheesy fuckwit is beyond me... pinch.gif

Ot & various other highly respected growers/breeders have had conflict with this persona and still he continues...

Thankfully his position of being a totally dispicable con artist hasn't damaged any1's reputation other than his own.

This so called 'man' needs a damn good kicking and the people he ripped off need re-embursing.

...Of course we all know this won't happen, he'll continue getting away with this long-con until he bumps into someone who decides enuff is enuff.
I for one hope this happens very soon...

I don't even know the bloke and I wanna re-arrange his face...What a dispicable piece of utter scum.


....And calm... smoke.gif
bushtuka
Oxygen Thief!
Lennon
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Mr Frisian
wot a scumbag , cannabis should be about being green and loving earth not profit and ripping people off...
this guy will defo get wots coming ... hes robbed the whole cannabis community, just think what would be now if he wernt such a disgrace (thanks all on uk420 who are honest ive gained so much knowledge )

sorry red whole topic and had to add my 2p worth

remember the name remember the strains BEWARE evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif
asbo420
QUOTE (connor @ May 30 2009, 01:48 PM) *
is this twat still hacking? does HHF still exist?


Im afraid so, the new web site is Cannabis Eye and the crap they breed is Breeders choice(as in the dog food).
The bullshit on the site is shocking, the front page is cannabis eye and breeders choice are announcing there partnership, even though its always been the same people/person running both outfits from the beggining.
No doubt they will be uncovered as a fraud eventually and new names will appear.
GanjaCat
After 5 years of total abstinence from interacting with the online cannabis community, this one thread (which I spent the whole morning reading & the early afternoon thinking about) has 'moved me' sufficiently to want to say my piece.

But first, please permit me a few words on 'where I was then' & 'where I am now'

Back then I was a pawn of someone who, by the strength of their personality and the force of their enthusiasm convinced me (for a while) that they were working 'for the cause'.

When I came to doubt & question some of their attitudes/morals/'business' decisions, I was cut off, abandoned, literally thrown into the streets of a foreign town, and bad-mouthed/black-listed on many boards.

Since then, I have been arrested, extradited, sentenced, freed & have returned to the Netherlands to a life I could never have dreamed of in my home town. To be blunt, I feel like a completely different person than I was then.

In co-operation with my (Dutch) house-mates, I have been growing (in soil, indoor & outdoor) for the last 2 years or so. Sometimes it feels like it is a little too easy over here, but as we all learn, Mother Nature has a way of putting you in your place from time to time.

Back On-Topic, firstly I'd like to offer a huge 'virtual hug' to all those members who came out of their comfort zones to contribute to ensuring that the truth is told. I appreciate it could not have been easy to be so open about such deeply personal matters. Nobody enjoys admitting to being conned. Maximum Respect.

As I read, I noticed that most of the 'action' was from a couple of years ago and hoped as I approached the final few pages that this Grimm tale would have a Hollywood ending (a laBruce Willis?)

To discover that this ripper is still doing the same thing really oxidized my trichomes, especially when I checked out the 'Cannbis Lies' site and found this 'announcement' from just a few months ago:-

QUOTE
Written by Hothouse Flowers
Wednesday, 25 March 2009

Today marks a milestone in the development of the Breeders Choice Organisation.

Today we are proud to release the first of a series of work by one of the BCO members, a breeder of the future who through learning with us and working within the BCO genetics pool has produced a stunning, legendary Colombian based 'Haze' that equals or exceeds the very best work of the self entitled ''masters'' of the plant.


To me, the final stanza of this quote is just plain taking the piss. Out of people we have all learned to love & respect.

BUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT?

If anyone has/develops a plan to do something concrete (like wellies?) to bring this bad boy down, and I can do anything to help, I'm in.

PM me.

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