duby
May 16 2007, 08:32 PM
hello oh wise ones,i have a power plant on 3-4 wk of flowering ive noticed a couple of leaves lower down are a very light green, maybe 4 or 5 leaves, what is this and how can i resolve????
Bud-e-Licious
May 17 2007, 03:49 PM
hey mate!
i'm guessing without seeing any photos that they are not getting much light?
bud!
Scribb|e
May 17 2007, 03:50 PM
Could be an N def. Any pix?
duby
May 17 2007, 04:42 PM
QUOTE(Scribble @ May 17 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]957243[/snapback]
Could be an N def. Any pix?

yea
ive heard of this n def what is it and how do i fix fella
bart
May 17 2007, 04:45 PM
QUOTE(duby @ May 17 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]957336[/snapback]
yea
ive heard of this n def what is it and how do i fix fella

N = nitrogen
Bud-e-Licious
May 17 2007, 05:27 PM
" soil nitrogen compounds are highly soluble and by spring this surplus may have been washed out of the soil by winter rains. Yellow, spindly plants, perhaps with pink or yellow tints are signs of shortages. Sulphate of ammonia or, for organic gardeners, poultry manure pellets will quickly remedy the shortfall. In the long term, adding organic material will maintain levels by releasing a steady trickle of nitrogen as it decays."
Just Google!
duby
May 17 2007, 05:38 PM
the problem is fellas that im using a bubbler not soil. is there something i can mix in with my nutes,i only got a pc a couple of months ago and am on first proper grow so all prety much new to me
Scribb|e
May 17 2007, 05:42 PM
More grow nutes would help up the amount of N.
Bud-e-Licious
May 17 2007, 06:15 PM
Sorry! should have Looked!
Amonia is full of nitrogen! so if you are not on any medication you know what to do although that will probably mess with your PH!?
Bud!
Bud-e-Licious
May 17 2007, 06:20 PM
"Solution to fixing a Nitrogen deficiency
Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients. Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.
A goof solid N-P-K ratio will fix any nitrogen deficiency. Any chemical or organic fertilizers that have Nitrogen in them will fix a nitrogen deficiency., Peters all purpose plant food 20-20-20 is good, Miracle grow All purpose plant food, Miracle grow Tomato plant food, (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients, or it will cause nutrient burn!) as well and blood meal! If you need to give your plants a quick solution to nitrogen and you want to use blood meal, I suggest making it into a tea for faster use, where blood meal is slow acting, but when made into a tea it works quicker! Other sources of nitrogen are dried blood, Cotton seed meal which is slow acting, Insect eating bat guano which is fast acting. Bone meal which is a gradual absorption when not made into a tea.( also excellent source of phosphorus). Fish Meal Or Fish Emulsion is a good source of nitrogen and is medium acting. Worm castings, which is gradual absorption. Seabird guano, All purpose Millennia Seabird guano, Orginal Seabird guano All Purpose, Crabshell ,which is slow absorption. Fox Farm Grow Big, which is fast acting. ( can bring down your ph as well)
Here are a list of things that help fix a Nitrogen Deficiency:
Chemical Nutrients
Advanced nutrients Grow (2-1-6)
Vita Grow (4-0-0),
BC Grow(1.2-3.2-6.5)
GH Flora Grow (2-1-6)
GH Maxi grow (10-5-14)
GH floraNova grow (7-4-10),
Dyna gro Grow (7-9-5)
Organic Nutrients
Dr. Hornby's Iguana Juice Grow (3-1-3)
Advanced Nutrients Mother Earth Grow (1.5-.75-1.5)
Earthjuice Grow (2-1-1),
Pure Blend Pro (3-1.5-4)
Bone Meal(0-10-0)
Blood Meal(12-0-0)
Fish Emulsion (5-1-1)
Seabird Guano (11-13-3)
Crab Shells(2.5-3.0-.5)
Pure Blend Grow (0.4-.01-.5)
Marine Cuisine (10-7-7)
MaxiCrop Seaweed (1-0-3)
Super Tea (5-5-1)
Mexican Bat Guano (10-2-0)
Sea Island Jamaican Bat Guano (1-10-0)
Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
Seaweed Plus Iron
Neptune's Harvest (2-4-0.5)
Alaska Start-Up(2-1-2)
Bio-Grow (1.8-0.1-6.6)
Age old Grow (12-6-6)
AGE Old Kelp (.30-.25-.15)
Neptune's Harvest (2-4-1)
Maxicrop Seweed(.1-0-1)
METANATURALS Organic grow (3-3-3)
METANATURALS Organic nitrogen (16-0-0)
So adding anyone of these above should fix up your nitrogen deficiency! Nitrogen deficient plants usually recover in about a week, affected leaves will not recover."
Bud!
Healthystealthy
May 17 2007, 07:14 PM
Hi there, another source which is full of nitrogen is urine, piss into sowt & add 1 cup into ur system, doesnt sound very nice but there you go!! Your buds wont taste of piss or owt as it will be long gone by time to harvest but urine is full of N, wouldnt be a good idea if you take any other kinds of drugs tho m8
cheers,
Healthy
Scribb|e
May 17 2007, 07:21 PM
Seriously, if you wanna use piss you should dilute it at least 10:1 with water (or 1 part piss to 9 parts water), as on it's own it's way too strong and will burn your plants. I wouldn't worry about what other drugs you may be taking, as I don't know of any metabolites that would be able to be pissed out, processed by the plant, as still amount to anything at the end of it.
duby
May 17 2007, 08:07 PM
wow thats all i have to say, you guys, i love this site so if i weed( xcuse the pun) into a shot glass and then added 9 shot glasses of water, this could sort my little baby out?
Scribb|e
May 17 2007, 08:12 PM
It's sterile, and it'd probably work, so if you wanna - knock yourself out. Although, IIRC, N is mainly present in urine as Urea, which the microherd break down in to useful N compounds that the plant can use, so I'm not sure that this would be any good for hydro applications.
The optimal way to increase your N, though would be to up the amount of Grow nutes in your bubbler solution.
prawn
May 17 2007, 11:21 PM
Agree with scribble, don't piss in your nute tank

just add some more veg nutes...
Then again a few light green leaves on the lower branches when you're 4 weeks in flower is fine, nothing to worry about if the rest of the plant is looking good
dikki
May 18 2007, 06:21 AM
sounds more like an mg problem that early
just re-read it!
i'd go with a misting of emsom salts
N seems to drop at about day 35-40 & i start pulling back on the bloom & go with a 50/50 grow>bloom mix
Owderb
May 18 2007, 06:42 AM
I dont know how you come to the conclusion its an mg def dikki without pics and him not even mentioning any marks on the leaves or owt

Duby dont treat your plant till you have a good idea what the problem is
A pic would be good to confirm things
Is it a uniform yellow on the leaves or is it patchy,where is the yellowing starting on the leaves,and has any other part of the plant got any probs
My guess is lack of a bit of N but like i said a pic will do nicely
Owd
dikki
May 18 2007, 07:51 AM
QUOTE(Owderb @ May 18 2007, 07:42 AM) [snapback]958099[/snapback]
I dont know how you come to the conclusion its an mg def dikki without pics and him not even mentioning any marks on the leaves or owt

purely on a whim old chap
pictures would be a good thing
everyone seemed to be jumping on the N bandwaggon
i have known mg to show at this stage of flowering however
so i thought i'd throw a spanner in the works & see what comes of it
called debate old chap
soz
TAXI
duby
May 18 2007, 04:00 PM
as soon as the wife gets home ill take and post some pickies, she's had a good tidy up and put it somewhere?!?*dont know if plant doing well or not as my first proper grow, no patches or holes or blotches on leaves, buds don't seem to be getting any bigger or maybe coz im looking every day and cant tell the difference. also ive noticed some of the roots are getting very thick?????
Owderb
May 18 2007, 04:37 PM
QUOTE(dikki @ May 18 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]958130[/snapback]
purely on a whim old chap
called debate old chap

Sorry old chap but i dont call telling someone to use epsoms when it doesnt necessarily need it a debate unless i'm missing summat

Treating plants with one thing when it isnt that can lead to a hell of a lot more probs
Owd
duby
May 18 2007, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(duby @ May 18 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]958552[/snapback]
as soon as the wife gets home ill take and post some pickies, she's had a good tidy up and put it somewhere?!?*dont know if plant doing well or not as my first proper grow, no patches or holes or blotches on leaves, buds don't seem to be getting any bigger or maybe coz im looking every day and cant tell the difference. also ive noticed some of the roots are getting very thick?????
here are some pickies i took them on monday, can't see the lightens though, went in after work today there is only one light one left, they have been on 12/12 for four weeks but only flower nutes for 3 weeks as its first grow feedback would be much appreciate, oh i found a couple of dried up leaves where the lightens were do you reckon the plant has balanced itself now, i started the potash last week
update cont
update 4weeks 12/12-3 weeks of flower nutes
update cont
prawn
May 18 2007, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(prawn @ May 18 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]957891[/snapback]
Agree with scribble, don't piss in your nute tank

just add some more veg nutes...
Then again a few light green leaves on the lower branches when you're 4 weeks in flower is fine, nothing to worry about if the rest of the plant is looking good

That is one healthy looking plant to me keep on keepin on

think you got a case of the first grow jitters
I can remember mine

at the first sign of a dodgy leaf

Just pick em off and leave her be
duby
May 18 2007, 09:05 PM
QUOTE(prawn @ May 18 2007, 09:42 PM) [snapback]959001[/snapback]
That is one healthy looking plant to me keep on keepin on

think you got a case of the first grow jitters
I can remember mine

at the first sign of a dodgy leaf

Just pick em off and leave her be

cheers prawny nice to hear bit of a conf boost
Bud-e-Licious
May 23 2007, 11:18 PM
Yeah duby!
No worries pal!
Bud!
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