Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 12:04 PM
Hi All!
Please excuse my title, but! Im a bit peeved with my new purchase!?
I bought 4 easi hangers thinking that i would use two in my flower room and use the other two in Veg room with Envirolite.
The problem is!?
The hangers just do not support the lights at all, they simply retract at great speed back into their housing and destroy my lights!!! What is the correct way to use them? I have been using them with the reel at the top and attaching the lead to the light but! its no use as the cable retracts at great speed into its housing! Is the proper way with the string/cable attached to ceiling and the housing attached to the light? I first thought that maybey it was a faulty pair but the other pair do exactly the same
Bud!
compostverte
Apr 30 2007, 12:20 PM
You adjust the wing nut to suit the weight of your reflector
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 12:22 PM
they work either way mate, as long as u use them right

they work on tension and can be quite tricky begin with, attach the cord pull em out to length u like and tighten the bolt. The light should just hang at that length then and to move it up ya just raise it with ya ahd, dont loosen or touch the bolt thing.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 12:24 PM
Hi CompostV,
I have tried that and they say that they support up to 5kg, but! it obviously needs to be 5kg weight for them to work unless im not using them correctly?
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 12:29 PM
Hi dr G,
i have tried everything that you say and so has my pal but the hangers simply rip the lamp at great speed back up into the housing, i noticed that if i mount them upside down they do seem to hold the position but if the light shade is nudged they zip at great speed at expense back into the hanger housing, would you add some kind of weight to the top of the shade?
Bud!
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 12:34 PM
i have used 2 hangers with a 4 lamp enviro shade at 10kg {2 x 5kg per hanger} and had no problem also used em with other lights like hps and had no problem with needing extra or less weight.
attch somehing to end of one and lift it up so the cord pulls down with the tension of the weight once its taken the tension then can tighten it. All can suggest is ya keep fiddling with em as once ya get it ya be like feck its that easy

They do work stick with it
basically once its taken the weight ya tighten the thing to stop it flyin up at great speed, but it will never be "tight" if its done right u should be able to raise the light but not lower it as the cord will only move upwards slowly with yer help not by knocking it. And it wont move down as its being tightened at the bolt to stop that.
compostverte
Apr 30 2007, 12:38 PM
maybe the clutch adjustment is stuck ?
You could try unscrewing the wingnut, maybe give it a tap, then doing it up again (you should be able to feel the effect of the clutch by tugging on the string.)
I have to say I used 4 of them for only a couple of grows (with all sorts of safety cords), but then switched to my current spur shelving method.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 12:41 PM
Thanks Guys!
At the moment i do not recommend them!, they are so highly sprung that they simply rip my 200w Envirolite and it making me cringe! I will bear with it for another hour orso and if i smash another envirolite im going to bin em!
Bud!
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 12:43 PM
erm take ya bulbs out ya nutter n hang the reflector

once ya got it sorted out then put ya bulbs into the reflector

dont need mess with ya lights n reflector to suss em out when i got mine last year i just tied my trainer to one end n messed about with it til i got an idea of how they work, can attach any thing to them to experiment. Once ya got something hanging and able raise it without it flyin back to the housin like a tape measure then safe to use lights with it
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 12:49 PM
Keye
Apr 30 2007, 12:56 PM
I have had similar problems. One of them was adjusted and set fine - the other just doesn't work well. It slowly rises up, leaving my reflector at a near 90deg angle - not good.
In the end, i got roight pissed off with it and just wrapped some tape around the string. It kinda bunches up in the reel and stops it going any further. Works a treat now.....
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 12:57 PM

what a nightmare.
1 Tie something to the end, let the cord be fully in the housing.
2 Tighten the bolt
3 Pull out the cord to length u wish
4 Does it stay in place? or Shoot back?
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 12:59 PM
QUOTE(Keye @ Apr 30 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]936583[/snapback]
I have had similar problems. One of them was adjusted and set fine - the other just doesn't work well. It slowly rises up, leaving my reflector at a near 90deg angle - not good.
In the end, i got roight pissed off with it and just wrapped some tape around the string. It kinda bunches up in the reel and stops it going any further. Works a treat now.....

my mate had same kinda problem with one, found best thing to use on the "dodgy" one was slidin the lil spring cord grip ya find on ski type jackets draw strings over the cord to a position the thing couldnt creep up the cord to go to an angle. might help ya if ya got old jacket layin around
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 12:59 PM
Shoots straight back at great speed on all 4 hangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 01:03 PM
Keye
Apr 30 2007, 01:05 PM
My brother used them and that's why i bought them - moved from chains to these.
His work really really well - a real Godsend.
K
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 01:06 PM
Hey K,
it must be a bad batch!?
fummo
Apr 30 2007, 01:10 PM
I bought a couple of those hangers and had a bit of agro trying to use them. I opted for chains after that much less faffing about for my liking.
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 01:11 PM

its been ages since i had mess with mine am wondering if am missin something

am sure ya let the thing drop before u tighten it but cant be sure, sure thats how it takes the tension initially. Then once its tightened it keeps the tension even when raisin the light.
ya tried tie something to the end n let it drop? once it goes down to the level gravity/weight dictates thats the tension level ya item needs. Then tighten the bolt. The item should remain at that level if ya bolts working ok. Then it be tight but ya should be able move it up without it flyin up only goin to the height u wish with tension still being in the cord.
feck knows its doin my head in now and not even got dodgy ones
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 01:15 PM
Hey dr G,
im right P*SS*D with them now, i notice on the back of them obviously were the clutch is, there are two small triangular bars are they something that could help, they seem to be internally related

?
Bud.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 01:20 PM
SORRY! not! triangular but RECTANGULAR!!!!!!
dr_green_thumb1974
Apr 30 2007, 01:22 PM
dont think they are anyting to do with it cant recall mine have anything other than the clutch and cord didnt need anything else
am lost they seem so simple to me when i used em maybes yers are fecked
zadtop
Apr 30 2007, 01:24 PM
I got two 'free' and must admit, I think they are utter TRASH.......
I binned them!
They are CRAP...
I'd NEVER recommend them!
budassbud
Apr 30 2007, 01:28 PM
Wow I've never had a problem with em, I'm finding it hard to describe how they are used they are so easy, respect to those with the patience, its pretty self tought stuff man. The thing i hate about them though is the wing-nuts are hard on ma fingers.
found this on a site that sells em
QUOTE
Easy rollers are a way of making life easy, when attached to your lights simply undo the screw to lift your lights or just pull to lower them.

basicly the opposite of this, they lift up whatever and to go down you loosen (ffs stupid website they should know better) its only about half a turn you dont need to go mad.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 01:28 PM
Would you know if they are worth dismantling and stretching the spring a bit so as there is more give and less take from them as they are vicious, the wing-nut seems useless but with it removed there is a plate this must be the clutch i will did out a washer and see if that fixes them as the wing nut is not really doing anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or maybey its just me!? GOD! i need a smoke
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 01:40 PM
Im going to bin these things, the washer locks them in that i cant pull them out any further but! it still retracts at full speed, IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!!!
Maan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've had enough, the last time i was this frustrated was with my misses!
Bud
StonedBrittania
Apr 30 2007, 01:56 PM
i've used em in my veg box for ages and they work great.
tho I think there maybe a lot of cheap copies out there as the last set I bought were crap and the reflector seemed too light to be held in place
squirrel
Apr 30 2007, 01:57 PM
I bought a pair of them for our setup and they are a right pain. I've now binned them and we're using chains. If you fiddle with the wingnuts you can sometimes get them to lock, but they are more trouble than they are worth IMO. And they use more headroom than a chain, only a couple of inches but every little helps.
georgio
Apr 30 2007, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(squirrel @ Apr 30 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]936676[/snapback]
I bought a pair of them for our setup and they are a right pain. I've now binned them and we're using chains. If you fiddle with the wingnuts you can sometimes get them to lock, but they are more trouble than they are worth IMO. And they use more headroom than a chain, only a couple of inches but every little helps.
guys don't bin them ..I too use them and I couldn't figure out how to use them ,in fact I dont even know if im using them correctly however the way I've set them for almost a year and had no problems. I'll send some pictures when lights are on ..with minimum effort I can raise the string to and from the housing with no problems.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 02:13 PM
Rustle! Rustle! Rustle!
There they are! G, i've just pulled them from the bin and i await your pictures and description as too how to use! I dismantled one and bits flew everywhere! I reckon without a smokie it will be hard to reassemble so i will leave until later in eve, but! i still have three
Lookin forward to your input G
leroy
Apr 30 2007, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(Bud-e-Licious @ Apr 30 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]936653[/snapback]
Im going to bin these things, the washer locks them in that i cant pull them out any further but! it still retracts at full speed, IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!!!
I've had enough, the last time i was this frustrated was with my misses!
perhaps your screwing them both the wrong way
georgio
Apr 30 2007, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(Bud-e-Licious @ Apr 30 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]936693[/snapback]
Rustle! Rustle! Rustle!
There they are! G, i've just pulled them from the bin and i await your pictures and description as too how to use! I dismantled one and bits flew everywhere! I reckon without a smokie it will be hard to reassemble so i will leave until later in eve, but! i still have three
Lookin forward to your input G

Lights don't come until 1 am . I'll post then.
G
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 02:26 PM
Hey leroy! You remind me of my misses!
d|t
Apr 30 2007, 04:41 PM
Turn anti-clockwise to loosen them (now it can go up and down)
If you tighten the nut (clockwise) then you should be able to move light down, but it shouldn't go up. But if tighten them too much, then you cant move them at all.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 05:01 PM
Hi Smokey!
Believe me when i say i have tried and tried to get these things to work! They simply wish to retract all the time the only way i can currently get them to do anything like the job they are supposed to do is to tie them upside down!?
Bud
Fat Freddy
Apr 30 2007, 05:05 PM
They are shite, I have resorted to placing a half brick at either end of my reflector to keep it down.
Bud-e-Licious
Apr 30 2007, 05:08 PM
Cheers F.Fred,
I have come to the same conclusion also! Absolute
elvis loved burgers
Apr 30 2007, 05:20 PM
After setting mine up I have had no problems and can move mine up or down without touching the wing nut. I did remove them once and use chains instead but that was cos my grow gor too big for my small space and i needed the extra couple of inches but stick it out when they work right they are fantastic.
georgio
May 1 2007, 01:39 AM
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guys don't bin them ..I too use them and I couldn't figure out how to use them ,in fact I dont even know if im using them correctly however the way I've set them for almost a year and had no problems. I'll send some pictures when lights are on ..with minimum effort I can raise the string to and from the housing with no problems.
This is how I use the hangers.
Sorry pics aren't to clear Hps sends camera mad!!!
what I did was untie the not at the end of the string and thread it through the circular washer(Be very careful not to let go at this stage otherwise it will completely go into the hanger housing) and then tighten the washer.Then attach the end to your reflector.
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georgio
May 1 2007, 01:51 AM
QUOTE(georgio @ May 1 2007, 02:39 AM) [snapback]937397[/snapback]
This is how I use the hangers.
Sorry pics aren't to clear Hps sends camera mad!!!
what I did was untie the not at the end of the string and thread it through the circular washer(Be very careful not to let go at this stage otherwise it will completely go into the hanger housing) and then tighten the washer.Then attach the end to your reflector.
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how it hangs from ceiling
Click to view attachmentall I have to do if I want to move it up and down is pull the string up or down as easy as that (the wing nut has no bearing on this set up)
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentClick to view attachmentI hope this helps ya . Hopefully this makes sense I'm very tired!.
G
budassbud
May 1 2007, 02:00 PM
If he couldn't get them working to start off with how he gonna do it now the divs taken them apart?
Mate you blow my mind, either your a bit "special" or you got a pair which some other Fred nicks put together wrong, in which case you shoulda sent em back in ...erm working order for want of a better expression. They work, there great its just incompetent stressers like you who have trouble with em, no?

just kiddin perceiver they are better than chains.
poopypantssuperparaphoenix
May 1 2007, 02:08 PM
Georgio knows the score
I started a similar thread recently and Someone gave me G's advice..............and it works trust me just dont tug too hard once set up as he says I did this once and the plastic washer split and I almost smashed the bulb
Have faith in G the force is strong in him
Respect, Poopy
nightscentedstock
May 1 2007, 02:47 PM
Fiddley Feckers
If these things were any good we wouldnt hear these bad reports - sent mine back and got another pair - still
went back to chains which I can
trust cos the last thing I want is an unstable system of hanging the light - i've got enough to worry about !
NSS
the original cheese
May 1 2007, 03:09 PM
my hangers work a treat
bart
May 1 2007, 03:19 PM
[quote name='budassbud' date='May 1 2007, 03:00 PM' post='937853']
your a bit "special"
mine work well
QUOTE
After setting mine up I have had no problems and can move mine up or down without touching the wing nut.
Same here. I thought that was the whole idea? The ability to raise or lower your light with zero fiddlin! Waste of time otherwise! Fiddlin with wing nuts?

I can go into a room, push the shade to the ceiling, tend to plants then pull it back down... and it stays wherever I leave it!

I cant fault 'em tbh!
scarface
May 1 2007, 03:22 PM
QUOTE(the original cheese @ May 1 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]937927[/snapback]
my hangers work a treat

smart arse
welcome to the site by the way
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
May 1 2007, 03:32 PM
SCrew them clockwise tight.. tight
the string should not retract. pull to desired length.
Bud-e-Licious
May 1 2007, 04:33 PM
Cheers Georgio

YOUR A STAR!
I shall attempt later again!!!!!!!!!
BudASS i only dimantled one! and i live 350miles from where i bought them so pal! stop givin me a hard time!
Regards,
Bud.
PS: Don't buy them of a well known auction site!?
compostverte
May 1 2007, 04:37 PM
This is what I had in mind before the EasyHangers appeared :-
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