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Bud-e-Licious
Hi All!

Please excuse my title, but! Im a bit peeved with my new purchase!?

I bought 4 easi hangers thinking that i would use two in my flower room and use the other two in Veg room with Envirolite.
The problem is!?
The hangers just do not support the lights at all, they simply retract at great speed back into their housing and destroy my lights!!! What is the correct way to use them? I have been using them with the reel at the top and attaching the lead to the light but! its no use as the cable retracts at great speed into its housing! Is the proper way with the string/cable attached to ceiling and the housing attached to the light? I first thought that maybey it was a faulty pair but the other pair do exactly the same bangin.gif taz.gif

Bud!

compostverte
You adjust the wing nut to suit the weight of your reflector smile.gif
dr_green_thumb1974
they work either way mate, as long as u use them right lol.gif

they work on tension and can be quite tricky begin with, attach the cord pull em out to length u like and tighten the bolt. The light should just hang at that length then and to move it up ya just raise it with ya ahd, dont loosen or touch the bolt thing.

Bud-e-Licious
Hi CompostV,

I have tried that and they say that they support up to 5kg, but! it obviously needs to be 5kg weight for them to work unless im not using them correctly? pinch.gif
Bud-e-Licious
Hi dr G,

i have tried everything that you say and so has my pal but the hangers simply rip the lamp at great speed back up into the housing, i noticed that if i mount them upside down they do seem to hold the position but if the light shade is nudged they zip at great speed at expense back into the hanger housing, would you add some kind of weight to the top of the shade?

Bud!
dr_green_thumb1974
i have used 2 hangers with a 4 lamp enviro shade at 10kg {2 x 5kg per hanger} and had no problem also used em with other lights like hps and had no problem with needing extra or less weight.

attch somehing to end of one and lift it up so the cord pulls down with the tension of the weight once its taken the tension then can tighten it. All can suggest is ya keep fiddling with em as once ya get it ya be like feck its that easy lol.gif

They do work stick with it

basically once its taken the weight ya tighten the thing to stop it flyin up at great speed, but it will never be "tight" if its done right u should be able to raise the light but not lower it as the cord will only move upwards slowly with yer help not by knocking it. And it wont move down as its being tightened at the bolt to stop that.
compostverte
maybe the clutch adjustment is stuck ?

You could try unscrewing the wingnut, maybe give it a tap, then doing it up again (you should be able to feel the effect of the clutch by tugging on the string.)

I have to say I used 4 of them for only a couple of grows (with all sorts of safety cords), but then switched to my current spur shelving method.
Bud-e-Licious
Thanks Guys!

At the moment i do not recommend them!, they are so highly sprung that they simply rip my 200w Envirolite and it making me cringe! I will bear with it for another hour orso and if i smash another envirolite im going to bin em!

Bud!
dr_green_thumb1974
erm take ya bulbs out ya nutter n hang the reflector lol.gif

once ya got it sorted out then put ya bulbs into the reflector lol.gif

dont need mess with ya lights n reflector to suss em out when i got mine last year i just tied my trainer to one end n messed about with it til i got an idea of how they work, can attach any thing to them to experiment. Once ya got something hanging and able raise it without it flyin back to the housin like a tape measure then safe to use lights with it lol.gif
Bud-e-Licious
eek.gif Hi dr G,

I have tried that but, its no use!"!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~###~~#### The bloodly thing just keeps ripping the shade into the hanger housings and i have tried putting things ontop of the shade but it just rips them aswell~#~#~~~~~~~
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Keye
I have had similar problems. One of them was adjusted and set fine - the other just doesn't work well. It slowly rises up, leaving my reflector at a near 90deg angle - not good.

In the end, i got roight pissed off with it and just wrapped some tape around the string. It kinda bunches up in the reel and stops it going any further. Works a treat now.....

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dr_green_thumb1974
lol.gif what a nightmare.

1 Tie something to the end, let the cord be fully in the housing.

2 Tighten the bolt

3 Pull out the cord to length u wish

4 Does it stay in place? or Shoot back?
dr_green_thumb1974
QUOTE(Keye @ Apr 30 2007, 12:56 PM) [snapback]936583[/snapback]
I have had similar problems. One of them was adjusted and set fine - the other just doesn't work well. It slowly rises up, leaving my reflector at a near 90deg angle - not good.

In the end, i got roight pissed off with it and just wrapped some tape around the string. It kinda bunches up in the reel and stops it going any further. Works a treat now.....

doh.gif


my mate had same kinda problem with one, found best thing to use on the "dodgy" one was slidin the lil spring cord grip ya find on ski type jackets draw strings over the cord to a position the thing couldnt creep up the cord to go to an angle. might help ya if ya got old jacket layin around lol.gif
Bud-e-Licious
Shoots straight back at great speed on all 4 hangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bud-e-Licious
So! they will get more pliable if i just keep stretching them it seems to be the spring inside is very highly sprung on all 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really do think these things are pooh.gif pooh.gif pooh.gif pooh.gif pooh.gif
Keye
My brother used them and that's why i bought them - moved from chains to these.

His work really really well - a real Godsend.

K
Bud-e-Licious
Hey K,

it must be a bad batch!?
fummo
I bought a couple of those hangers and had a bit of agro trying to use them. I opted for chains after that much less faffing about for my liking.
dr_green_thumb1974
lol.gif its been ages since i had mess with mine am wondering if am missin something lol.gif

am sure ya let the thing drop before u tighten it but cant be sure, sure thats how it takes the tension initially. Then once its tightened it keeps the tension even when raisin the light.

ya tried tie something to the end n let it drop? once it goes down to the level gravity/weight dictates thats the tension level ya item needs. Then tighten the bolt. The item should remain at that level if ya bolts working ok. Then it be tight but ya should be able move it up without it flyin up only goin to the height u wish with tension still being in the cord.

feck knows its doin my head in now and not even got dodgy ones lol.gif
Bud-e-Licious
Hey dr G,

im right P*SS*D with them now, i notice on the back of them obviously were the clutch is, there are two small triangular bars are they something that could help, they seem to be internally related 34.gif ?

Bud.
Bud-e-Licious
SORRY! not! triangular but RECTANGULAR!!!!!!
dr_green_thumb1974
dont think they are anyting to do with it cant recall mine have anything other than the clutch and cord didnt need anything else

am lost they seem so simple to me when i used em maybes yers are fecked
zadtop
I got two 'free' and must admit, I think they are utter TRASH.......

I binned them!

They are CRAP...

I'd NEVER recommend them!

budassbud
Wow I've never had a problem with em, I'm finding it hard to describe how they are used they are so easy, respect to those with the patience, its pretty self tought stuff man. The thing i hate about them though is the wing-nuts are hard on ma fingers.


found this on a site that sells em

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Easy rollers are a way of making life easy, when attached to your lights simply undo the screw to lift your lights or just pull to lower them.


lol.gif basicly the opposite of this, they lift up whatever and to go down you loosen (ffs stupid website they should know better) its only about half a turn you dont need to go mad.
Bud-e-Licious
Would you know if they are worth dismantling and stretching the spring a bit so as there is more give and less take from them as they are vicious, the wing-nut seems useless but with it removed there is a plate this must be the clutch i will did out a washer and see if that fixes them as the wing nut is not really doing anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or maybey its just me!? GOD! i need a smoke spliff.gif
Bud-e-Licious
Im going to bin these things, the washer locks them in that i cant pull them out any further but! it still retracts at full speed, IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!!!

Maan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've had enough, the last time i was this frustrated was with my misses!

Bud mad.gif
StonedBrittania
i've used em in my veg box for ages and they work great.

tho I think there maybe a lot of cheap copies out there as the last set I bought were crap and the reflector seemed too light to be held in place wink1.gif
squirrel
I bought a pair of them for our setup and they are a right pain. I've now binned them and we're using chains. If you fiddle with the wingnuts you can sometimes get them to lock, but they are more trouble than they are worth IMO. And they use more headroom than a chain, only a couple of inches but every little helps.
georgio
QUOTE(squirrel @ Apr 30 2007, 02:57 PM) [snapback]936676[/snapback]
I bought a pair of them for our setup and they are a right pain. I've now binned them and we're using chains. If you fiddle with the wingnuts you can sometimes get them to lock, but they are more trouble than they are worth IMO. And they use more headroom than a chain, only a couple of inches but every little helps.


guys don't bin them ..I too use them and I couldn't figure out how to use them ,in fact I dont even know if im using them correctly however the way I've set them for almost a year and had no problems. I'll send some pictures when lights are on ..with minimum effort I can raise the string to and from the housing with no problems.
Bud-e-Licious
Rustle! Rustle! Rustle!

There they are! G, i've just pulled them from the bin and i await your pictures and description as too how to use! I dismantled one and bits flew everywhere! I reckon without a smokie it will be hard to reassemble so i will leave until later in eve, but! i still have three

Lookin forward to your input G thumbsup.gif
leroy
QUOTE(Bud-e-Licious @ Apr 30 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]936653[/snapback]
Im going to bin these things, the washer locks them in that i cant pull them out any further but! it still retracts at full speed, IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!!!

I've had enough, the last time i was this frustrated was with my misses!

perhaps your screwing them both the wrong way wink.gif
georgio
QUOTE(Bud-e-Licious @ Apr 30 2007, 03:13 PM) [snapback]936693[/snapback]
Rustle! Rustle! Rustle!

There they are! G, i've just pulled them from the bin and i await your pictures and description as too how to use! I dismantled one and bits flew everywhere! I reckon without a smokie it will be hard to reassemble so i will leave until later in eve, but! i still have three

Lookin forward to your input G thumbsup.gif


Lights don't come until 1 am . I'll post then.

G
Bud-e-Licious
Hey leroy! You remind me of my misses! rofl.gif
d|t
Turn anti-clockwise to loosen them (now it can go up and down)

If you tighten the nut (clockwise) then you should be able to move light down, but it shouldn't go up. But if tighten them too much, then you cant move them at all.

Bud-e-Licious
Hi Smokey!

Believe me when i say i have tried and tried to get these things to work! They simply wish to retract all the time the only way i can currently get them to do anything like the job they are supposed to do is to tie them upside down!?

Bud pinch.gif
Fat Freddy
They are shite, I have resorted to placing a half brick at either end of my reflector to keep it down.
Bud-e-Licious
Cheers F.Fred,

I have come to the same conclusion also! Absolute pooh.gif
elvis loved burgers
After setting mine up I have had no problems and can move mine up or down without touching the wing nut. I did remove them once and use chains instead but that was cos my grow gor too big for my small space and i needed the extra couple of inches but stick it out when they work right they are fantastic.
georgio
QUOTE(georgio @ Apr 30 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]936682[/snapback]
guys don't bin them ..I too use them and I couldn't figure out how to use them ,in fact I dont even know if im using them correctly however the way I've set them for almost a year and had no problems. I'll send some pictures when lights are on ..with minimum effort I can raise the string to and from the housing with no problems.


This is how I use the hangers.

Sorry pics aren't to clear Hps sends camera mad!!!

what I did was untie the not at the end of the string and thread it through the circular washer(Be very careful not to let go at this stage otherwise it will completely go into the hanger housing) and then tighten the washer.Then attach the end to your reflector.

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georgio
QUOTE(georgio @ May 1 2007, 02:39 AM) [snapback]937397[/snapback]
This is how I use the hangers.

Sorry pics aren't to clear Hps sends camera mad!!!

what I did was untie the not at the end of the string and thread it through the circular washer(Be very careful not to let go at this stage otherwise it will completely go into the hanger housing) and then tighten the washer.Then attach the end to your reflector.

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how it hangs from ceiling

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all I have to do if I want to move it up and down is pull the string up or down as easy as that (the wing nut has no bearing on this set up)

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I hope this helps ya . Hopefully this makes sense I'm very tired!.

G










budassbud
If he couldn't get them working to start off with how he gonna do it now the divs taken them apart? 34.gif

Mate you blow my mind, either your a bit "special" or you got a pair which some other Fred nicks put together wrong, in which case you shoulda sent em back in ...erm working order for want of a better expression. They work, there great its just incompetent stressers like you who have trouble with em, no? lol.gif just kiddin perceiver they are better than chains.
poopypantssuperparaphoenix
Georgio knows the score wink.gif
I started a similar thread recently and Someone gave me G's advice..............and it works trust me just dont tug too hard once set up as he says I did this once and the plastic washer split and I almost smashed the bulb excl.gif
Have faith in G the force is strong in him stoned.gif
Respect, Poopy
nightscentedstock
Fiddley Feckers gossip.gif
If these things were any good we wouldnt hear these bad reports - sent mine back and got another pair - still pooh.gif

went back to chains which I can trust cos the last thing I want is an unstable system of hanging the light - i've got enough to worry about ! lol.gif

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the original cheese
my hangers work a treat rofl.gif
bart
[quote name='budassbud' date='May 1 2007, 03:00 PM' post='937853']

your a bit "special"

rofl.gif

mine work well smile.gif
VRG
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After setting mine up I have had no problems and can move mine up or down without touching the wing nut.


Same here. I thought that was the whole idea? The ability to raise or lower your light with zero fiddlin! Waste of time otherwise! Fiddlin with wing nuts? lol.gif I can go into a room, push the shade to the ceiling, tend to plants then pull it back down... and it stays wherever I leave it! wink1.gif

I cant fault 'em tbh! thumbsup.gif
scarface
QUOTE(the original cheese @ May 1 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]937927[/snapback]
my hangers work a treat rofl.gif



smart arse tongue.gif
welcome to the site by the way
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
SCrew them clockwise tight.. tight

the string should not retract. pull to desired length.



Bud-e-Licious
Cheers Georgio specool.gif YOUR A STAR!

I shall attempt later again!!!!!!!!!

BudASS i only dimantled one! and i live 350miles from where i bought them so pal! stop givin me a hard time! wink.gif rofl.gif


Regards,

Bud.

PS: Don't buy them of a well known auction site!?
compostverte
This is what I had in mind before the EasyHangers appeared :-

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I was contemplating fine-tuning the counterweight with sand ...
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