paul0
Apr 13 2007, 05:27 PM
Does she look ok? Think im overwatering or does she need fed?
compostverte
Apr 13 2007, 05:33 PM
I don't know about overwatering, but it looks a bit stretched.
How high is the light ?
The thing about watering is to water thoroughly and feel the weight of the pot and water when it gets light.
Lazlo Woodbine
Apr 13 2007, 05:34 PM
No idea if you need to feed - how long has it been in the pot?
You might also have fungus probs - but it's hard to tell with the light.
Laz
ffeennerr
Apr 13 2007, 05:38 PM
what you need to do is lower the light an have a fan running so that since the light is lower the heat doesnt affect the plant. closer the light the more its being obsorbed.
smiffy22toke
Apr 13 2007, 05:47 PM
put more soil in the pot with some bone meal mixed into the soil as a mulch try not to water until they look dry on top also your fan is crushall and your humidity could do with a little rize just some tips -peace-
Yoda Indica
Apr 13 2007, 05:48 PM
leaves look a-drooping..unless this is during rest this plant is overwatered...
feeding is ok...deeply edged leaves , yet no signs of burned leaftips...
have you measured ph ? leaf color could be a bit bright becase of the strain , or cuz yer tapwater is out of ph range.,.
you will do fine..
as long as >
you repot right before flowering into double big container....
you give small bits of water at very regular intervals...
you have patience
best of luck
paul0
Apr 13 2007, 07:20 PM
Ok i think i need to give a little info ;~)
Pic colours are out, leaves are perfect, all nice and green, no dark or light green areas.
Its in its final pots, id say there about 6-7lt pots which i put in about a week ago i think. I had to potup early as i had roots coming out the bottom of the pot and they were starting to dry up. But the root ball wasnt perfect at the time.
I dont believe its streching, its got loads of undergrowth now and its currently on week one or so of flowering. (Shes a female)

First set of leaves are about 1 or 2 inchs from soil.
Im watering with PH7 pure spring water, with no nutes yet
Lights are about 1 - 2 feet max from tip of plant
Think i covered most of the questions.
paul0
Apr 13 2007, 07:22 PM
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put more soil in the pot with some bone meal mixed into the soil as a mulch try not to water until they look dry on top also your fan is crushall and your humidity could do with a little rize just some tips -peace-
I cant seem to get the humidy up any more, it normaly sits around 30-40. I leave bottle of water open when lights are on
Mogsybaby
Apr 14 2007, 07:34 AM
Hey paul,
A mini fogger from an electrical supplier will get your humidity levels up.
Mogsy
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 08:56 AM
QUOTE(Mogsybaby @ Apr 14 2007, 08:34 AM) [snapback]918520[/snapback]
Hey paul,
A mini fogger from an electrical supplier will get your humidity levels up.
Mogsy
Hey Mogsy,
Do you think its the humidity thats causing that? Or just a problem that needs fixed? I thought low RH would cause hard leaves to hold the moisture or am i batting up the wrong tree

Do you know of any good/fast sites online to get one cheap?
I dont have much room in my growroom, lucky if its 2feet square.
Apart from that, aint checked on them this morning, lights came on at 8am
Paul
eri
Apr 14 2007, 09:00 AM
QUOTE
Do you think its the humidity thats causing that? Or just a problem that needs fixed? I thought low RH would cause hard leaves to hold the moisture or am i batting up the wrong tree
What's your extraction like?
Usually if your RH is too low, it's because your air exchange is fucked.
Where's the air coming from and where is it going to?
eri
Apr 14 2007, 09:02 AM
QUOTE
A mini fogger from an electrical supplier will get your humidity levels up.
Yeah but they won't give your plants any more air and they can also cause a whole host of other problems (for one, an aggravation of most forms of mould).
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 09:36 AM
Just checked on plants. RH is at 56%
Extraction is brand new (2 days old) and air is coming in lower parts of tent and going out above light (100mm hole) to a 100mm fan and through a duct to the roof and out side.
Plants still look same. skippin water tonight and do it tomorrow
Mogsybaby
Apr 14 2007, 11:02 AM
Hey paul,
I am sure eri will correct me if I am wrong but drooping leaves are a sign of a need to water(In my case anyway). Pick your pots up and if they feel really light give them a good drink after you have done this pick the pot up and feel the weight again for future referance of about how heavy it should be fully watered. I got my fogger from Maplins, but as eri has said you may not need one and he knows far more than me.
Mogsy
eri
Apr 14 2007, 12:09 PM
Mogsy - I think you're half right. Basically, if you overwater cannabis (or most plants), they start to use it less effectively. The droopiness looks a little like they need water because they're not managing to use the water they've been given properly

You can apply this same principle to nutes - it's better to give them just what they need than to overdo it.
You can also apply it to children!
QUOTE
you repot right before flowering into double big container....
you give small bits of water at very regular intervals...
I would wait a few days in veg after the last repot to let them settle and "small bits of water at very regular intervals" is a damn good way to kill your plant... Much better to give more water less often (ideally when they need it!!)
eri
Apr 14 2007, 12:13 PM
That sounds good, but 2 days isn't much time to notice an improvement in

Give them some time and water them when they need it (not before or after) and I think you'll notice an improvement...
You never answered the questions about your light though... ? That could definitely be another factor in its lacklustre.
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 03:33 PM
Pots do feel light....
Noticed a few funny colours on leafs today and they are very dark green in the sun. Pics coming....
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 03:36 PM
first pic
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 03:37 PM
and
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 03:43 PM
Light im using is 400w HPS about 1 1/2 feet from tip.
There soaking up some sun atm
dirtbikeal
Apr 14 2007, 03:47 PM
looks ok to me i think your stressing yourself to much listen to the advice given about watering i find everyother day does it for me also your roots will show at the bottom first but that doesnt mean it needs to be repotted its the side growth you look at when taking it out of the pot to check although roots at the bottom are a good indicator to start checking what compo are you using as i found my westland would only go about ten days before i started adding nutes
paul0
Apr 14 2007, 04:17 PM
Cheers for the reply. just gave it about 500ml of pure water :yum:
Soil was so bone dry!
Shall see how it looks tomorrow
paul0
Apr 15 2007, 03:31 PM
A little better today, gonna give them a light water tonight and hopefully see more change. If not then i dunno.....
paul0
Apr 16 2007, 07:12 PM
Not much change over night, but more buds and growth

Im now gonna start feeding tap water as i think this all started to happen when i started with the fresh spring water.. Could i be right? Or am i making it worse with tap water?
squirrel
Apr 17 2007, 09:55 AM
Ordinary tapwater is fine for compost. Using spring water is a total waste of money, but it's unlikely to cause problems.
Saying that you're going to give a "light water" suggests that you haven't understood the advice on watering. You should be using a flood and drain approach : wait till the compost is almost completely dry before watering, then saturate the compost completely, and don't water again until the compost is almost completely dry again. Don't give it light waterings. Ever. Plants should go several days between waterings, if you have to water more often than that your pots may be a bit small.
Best of luck with it.
paul0
Apr 17 2007, 05:56 PM
Cheers for the advise. I dont normaly like puttng so much water into the pots as they end up taken a swim

The spring water was free, had 19lts of it.
The droopy leaves hasnt slowed growth, its getting bigger every day and flowers are starting to grow more and white hairs are getting longer, so im not gonna worry to much about this anymore i think.
Ill follow the advise iv been given and water every odd day when soil is totaly dry and flood it with warmish(not cold) water which the lamp keeps warm.
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