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grobag
I've decided to start this thread for various reasons, the first being to test out the new gallery posting tool. guitar.gif

This thread will take a while to form as I make various things and post them up but I'll keep putting the various methods and techniques in here so that they are all in one place. I'll mainly focus on the hashes, oils and jellies that I make and cure, but I'll also be including all the imports I come across as a comparison to show that YOU can make better products than even the most seasoned regional producer. cool.gif Forget Afghani and Leb from the 70's, UK420 is where the best hash ever produced can be found.

Ever wondered how a certain hash or oil is made? Pose the question in this thread and when I have the trim I'll make it and show you how it's done and with my own tried and tested techniques. Feel free to add any additions or changes you would make, that's the idea. With a bit of luck we could come up with some great new ideas between us. gossip.gif
FD
nice one gro guitar.gif cool thread in the making here, now (hippy) crack on with some pics

Lazlo Woodbine
Excellent Idea gro .... a classic thread in the making ..... yahoo.gif

Laz
grobag
So first up I'll post a few pics of the types of products I'm going to be contending with. This is a sample of the imports I have in my stash at the moment. (check out the gallery posting method for the pics biggrin.gif )


Group of various imports


Nepalese Charas Just like plasticine this stuff


Dry sift and flat pressed Pakistani Made in Morocco


Moroccan Black


Pakistani Black Made in Morocco.

CinderellaMan
thumbsup.gif Top drawer stuff grobag, think ill stick this in my topic tracker wink.gif

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FD
yummo hash there Gro

Will say this tho ,dont think it should be a 'competition' between import and home made, they both have their merits in their own right.
squirrel
Wow, I wish I could get imports like that! Never mind, I shall keep an eye on this thread, perhaps I'll learn how to make my own... Nice one Grobag.
grobag
QUOTE(FD @ Apr 13 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]917515[/snapback]
yummo hash there Gro

Will say this tho ,dont think it should be a 'competition' between import and home made, they both have their merits in their own right.


To true mate, but my point is, as you of all people should know, given the right strain of plants ANYONE can make anything. smile.gif

grobag
Pfft says I to the imports, let's blow them out of the water shall we. 13.gif (just for you FD mate tongue.gif wink1.gif )

The end result of OT1's breeding, Bish's growing and Grobag's oiling this batch:


Scrape it up with a new blade Mmmmmmm


Lot#5 BHO


Lot#5 BHO

FD
ya know after every pic u post im just gonna post a comment gro, so get used to it

but that stuff is frigging drooling material, ya best keep a little by for me
dikki
QUOTE(FD @ Apr 13 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]917527[/snapback]
ya know after every pic u post im just gonna post a comment gro, so get used to it

but that stuff is frigging drooling material, ya best keep a little by for me



not 1/2

slurp
grobag
This is how I made it, basically by the same method as in my sig but with unbubbled trim, just manicured then dried. Hopefully the titles/descriptions from my gallery should explain the pics and the method.


Ingredients and utensils


Near Zero Impurity Keen-Newport London Butane


Lot#5 trim and Air Bud


Setting up the coffee pot


seal the gaps and squirt in


Trim in Liquid Butane


Ban Marie style evaporation for speed One pyrex dish contains hot water from the tap, the other goes on top for vapping in.


My paper coffee filter made from a wire coat hanger and pegs


Plunge the coffee pot and second filter through the paper


Sit back and watch it vap


When done it will form a layer on the bottom This was extremely clear for oil.


Scrape it up with a new blade Mmmmmmm


I then scrape it into a wrap of plastic


bung it in the freezer before tacking into a lump


Frozen it's easier to tack into a lump



grobag

After freezing, tack it about torelease trapped bubbles


Lot#5 BHO

Tack it into a ball and let it cure. I'll post pics of cured oil at a later date to show the difference.

(Please don't make 17 comments FD 34.gif lol.gif )
dikki
stunning pics m8
NICK AK47
Good selection of smoke there grobag


Nick...
Peppi
shit hot growbag !!! amazing stuff !!!! guitar.gif yahoo.gif

peppi smoke.gif
Blabblabberbab
top draw Gro thumbsup.gif
grobag
Just to show aswell:

Loads of spent trichomes are filtered out in the paper filter as this pic shows.


The filter


Paper filter opened

They look like normal:


Spent trichomes

But when rubbed they disappear as there's nothing left in them:


Spent trichs rubbed

Not like these dry sifted from the White Widow I've been smoking over the last few weeks. This I'll use to stiffen some jelly later.


Crystal Catcher dry sift


Crystal Catcher Bottom
fummo
Bloody lovely lookin hash grobag, I might even have a go at an extraction.
ffeennerr
Intersesting thank you also nice pics!!
grobag
Cheers for the comments peeps. smile.gif

So next up is bubbling as the first step to jelly making. I'll then dry the trim out again and oil it for parts to the jelly mix. I've still got a few more bubble and oil runs to go before finally mixing it all together.

Bubble I made today:
This is from a salad of trim including Critical Mass, Grape Crush and Mexican Sativa. Unfortunately I don't have any bubble BAGS at the moment and am having to use an old set of Bubble SACS. sad.gif Roll on the expo. This is just a brief run down to show what I did but there are better bubble guides in that sub-forum.


Ingredients Frozen from fresh trim


Trim/air bud close up


Ice and water in the bags Bloody old Sacs instead of bags


Mix in the trim


Stir, settle, stir, settle


Keep going until all capitate heads have been knocked off (about 45-60 mins in total)

No photo of draining the bags as I needed two hands. lol.gif


Scrape up and dry This is on corogated cardboard


The pointless 3rd and 4th grades


Most in the 2nd grade


A bit in the 1st grade

I'll post more pics when it has dried.
NMW
looking good grobag smile.gif that 2nd grade looks well nice and so do them imports but i think home made hash takes some beating yahoo.gif nice work gro applause.gif
Noam
top thread GB smoke.gif
Burns
I for one will be making full use of this thread once I get some trim and materials wink1.gif
Nice work grobag mate,as usual... smoke.gif

Burnage cool.gif
webby
Splendid piccies and thread gro yinyang.gif

A quick Q tho if I may.....how long do you cure your oil for?
grobag
QUOTE(webby @ Apr 13 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]918272[/snapback]
Splendid piccies and thread gro yinyang.gif

A quick Q tho if I may.....how long do you cure your oil for?


About a month mate if it last that long. Here's how it looks today on the start - you can still see loads of bubbles.


BHO at start of cure


First day of BHO cure

landsker
Nice thread.

Hash is a lovely thing, when it is well-made and clean. Not so much of it these days. Quite a lot still around the med. though.
Maybe this video has been posted before, I`m sure it has!
The band is from Israel, I believe, and the song has been re-mixed with the video. Israel has a lot of pro-canna people!

Excuse, if I`m wandering a wee bit from the subject, but if you like hash, I daresay you might appreciate the link.

Hashish, the drug of a nation. wink.gif
grobag
An update of the state of play today: I'm posting pics as I take them so the timescale of these posts is correct. The Lot#5 oil was made the day before I started the thread though.

The oil is looking very nice and smoothing out a bit now.


Oil smoothing out

A point about this oil - it's probably the best I've ever made I reckon. I put this down to the strain used over anything. Look at this comparison to the last batch I made from different trim in exactly the same way:


When done it will form a layer on the bottom This was extremely clear for oil.


Previous BHO evaporation


BHO at start of cure


Previous batch of BHO

The lot#5 oil is so much clearer and has a lovely smell to it. Not for the inexperienced toker. spliff.gif
grobag
I'll be making another batch of bubble today before I start making more oil then mixing jelly. The trim from the first batch of bubble is now drying out again before being oiled.


Drying bubbled trim


Bubbled trim closer

This is a shot of a bud from a plant used to make this bubble.


A bud of one of the plants the trim came from BCGA Grape Crush

The bubble is also drying out nicely and looking good. The first shots were taken last night and the second ones this morning.


1st drying


2nd drying


1st drying 2


2nd drying 2

Plus a couple of other pics of the best hash in my stash at the moment, these really are nice. The chap on his mountain in the Riff has beaten the chap on his mountain in the Himalayas this time.


Black Pakistani


Blonde Pakistani

bart
nice smile.gif

that all looks amazing
rancid-nomad
Thanks for starting this thread grobag . I was going to post pictures of how i make my BHO but there really is no point as you cover everything i do plus loads more to boot .
Cheers grobag , enjoy that oil/hash won't you .R-N wink1.gif
NMW
Hi grobag
i was just wondering do you ever make your oil into paste or aka as budder ? i made some last night by accident i find it much nicer than oil so tasty and smother to smoke wink.gif and you can handle it easy with out sticking to ya
grobag
QUOTE(HMT @ Apr 14 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]919140[/snapback]
Hi grobag
i was just wondering do you ever make your oil into paste or aka as budder ? i made some last night by accident i find it much nicer than oil so tasty and smother to smoke wink.gif and you can handle it easy with out sticking to ya


To be honest mate I'm not quite sure what you mean by Budder/paste. I've heard the phrase a few times now but am not sure what it is. The oils will be mixed with resin on the main this time, I'll be making that later when I've got all the bits and bobs together. Is that what you mean?

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FD
its 'air-whipped ' Iso oil gro

sposed to be way more potent than iso due to the whipping of it

its that stuff the ake the bullshit claim u can get 40 hits per gram of it lol.gif my arse

i think they trying to take the method further now by using co2 containers
Hawksok
It is indeed as good as they say. smoke.gif

40 hits is definitely achievable but who's counting? Maybe you mean it costs 40 bucks a gram?

I always thought the budder guy had kept the method secret?

[Link edited out by Gro]
Keye
I've always known Budder as butter that's been made into canna-butter for cooking etc.

Ahwell.
FD
QUOTE(nath @ Apr 15 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]919655[/snapback]
(link removed)

Budder info up there^^ and it is indeed as good as they say. smoke.gif

40 hits is definitely achievable but who's counting? Maybe you mean it costs 40 bucks a gram?

I always thought the budder guy had kept the method secret?



ye he keeps it secret and says bullshit for misinfo too

no i dont mean 40 bucks a gram, 40 HITS or doses

40 doses no way, I may have never smoked it, but I can believe I could get 40 hits, be surprised to get 10 even if its as great as they say
FD
''

BudderKing is also determined to make Budder on other continents. He wants it in Dutch coffeeshops. It's hard to make, he says: it takes an ounce of prime buds to make about three grams of prime Budder. Three grams of Budder provides about 100 hits, and each hit will get you as high as if you had just smoked a joint or two.''



bolluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkksssssssssss
Hawksok
QUOTE(FD @ Apr 15 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]919669[/snapback]
ye he keeps it secret and says bullshit for misinfo too

no i dont mean 40 bucks a gram, 40 HITS or doses

40 doses no way, I may have never smoked it, but I can believe I could get 40 hits, be surprised to get 10 even if its as great as they say


So you've never smoked it but you know what it's like?

I really think you should try it before bad mouthing it like that mate.
FD
QUOTE(nath @ Apr 15 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]919674[/snapback]
So you've never smoked it but you know what it's like?



I've smoked enuff quality bud, hash and oil in my time to know there aint nothing out there that a guy with my tolerance could get 40 fucking hits from one gram

not happening.
Hawksok
QUOTE(FD @ Apr 15 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]919675[/snapback]
I've smoked enuff quality bud, hash and oil in my time to know there aint nothing out there that a guy with my tolerance could get 40 fucking hits from one gram

not happening.


You may have smoked titanic amounts of quality bud hash and oil in your time but you have not smoked budder so you should probably shut up.

Do you think the twats at Cannabis Culture would advertise it as such otherwise?
grobag
So basically they're saying that if I take the oil I've made and whip some air into it, it will both remove remaining solvent and add airy bubbles instead. But they're using ISO instead of butane so will have a more contaminated product to begin with. unsure.gif If right - no I don't do that. I take more of a shanti, shanti approach and take my time.

The oil I made a few days ago has settled a bit now and today I'll do a spot of freeze purging to aid the process but otherwise I'll just leave it in a dark cool place. I'll post pics of how it changes - some people will be quite surprised I'm sure.

I'll do a post now of the new things I made last night but it will be a little while yet before the final products will be done.

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FD
QUOTE(nath @ Apr 15 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]919674[/snapback]
So you've never smoked it but you know what it's like?

I really think you should try it before bad mouthing it like that mate.



lol.gif pmsl

where's the bad mouthing? im sure its very strong just not strong enuff that 1/40th of a gram is gonna fuck me or 1/30th as he now seems to have revised it too from a different thing I read

just fucking think about it - 0.025 of a gram is gonna be like smoking a joint or 2 - bollocks - i smoke pure reefers so im sure a 40th of that thing that has only been extracted from one ounce of bud aint gonna be comparable to 4 grams of the same herb

anyway, i wont waste 80 fucking quid ona gram of it but if anyone wants to bring half a gram to the expo I'll bash it one -oooo that'd be like 15 hits or 30 joints


bollocks
FD
QUOTE(nath @ Apr 15 2007, 12:45 PM) [snapback]919677[/snapback]
You may have smoked titanic amounts of quality bud hash and oil in your time but you have not smoked budder so you should probably shut up.

Do you think the twats at Cannabis Culture would advertise it as such otherwise?



oohh no of course not, there's no spin and bullshit perpetuated about strains and products in the canna world is there? no that could never be the case so I best shut up
grobag
So I made a new oil last night - looks great; plus I had another bubble run.

I found a bag full of buds that I'd saved for some reason even though I'd obviously oiled them already - ESBHaze buds. So I threw them in the coffee pot with the left-overs from the Lot#5 oil run and squirted in a couple of cans of butane to see if there was anything left in it all before I threw it away.

It made quite a healthy blob of nice oil. smile.gif


New batch of oil Made from a mixture of used trim/air bud from Lot#5 and ESBHaze.


Different oils made the same way


Lot#5 oil curing 3rd day


Last night's produce


Bits and bobs made so far


Second batch of bubble Second sac.


2nd batch, 2nd sac, following morning

FD
Just out of interest gro - and sorry for jacking the thread re:budder - but how many hits/joints/pipes or whatever would u get from a gram of your delicious oil cos im sure at the end of the day with the genetics u sed and the skill u got Im sure this budder cant be much better if it is at al than what u make.
grobag
QUOTE(FD @ Apr 15 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]919689[/snapback]
Just out of interest gro - and sorry for jacking the thread re:budder - but how many hits/joints/pipes or whatever would u get from a gram of your delicious oil cos im sure at the end of the day with the genetics u sed and the skill u got Im sure this budder cant be much better if it is at al than what u make.


The budder will be nice but I guarantee that weight for weight that the Lot#5 oil is stronger but different. I've got some IPA on order and will get it soon. I'll make some budder then to prove a point. Plus I'll make it my way which will include water washing, quick wash Iso washing, purging then the 'whipping' that people seem to think is so vitally important. It will extract a wider range of cannabinoids which will make it a different stone but it will also extract contaminants with it which will 'water it down' in comparison the THC Trichome Treacle above.

For the moment though I'll be showing my prefered method of making a better product than that in my eyes.

smile.gif

Edit to add: How many hits per gram? - Well I'm a bit of a heavy toker so I'll prolly make about 4-5 joints from a gram. Knock your socks off though. 20.gif
Hawksok
That is the one thing about the budder that I don't like; it's not a full stone as it is mainly 'just' THC.
grobag
QUOTE(nath @ Apr 15 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]919702[/snapback]
That is the one thing about the budder that I don't like; it's not a full stone as it is mainly 'just' THC.


Wrong way around mate, budder should be a fuller stone whilst BHO is just THC. wink1.gif
Father McPot
I'm green with envy.

That's hashish at its finest. smoke.gif
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