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Otto_
Evening gents smile.gif

First post here and a newbie to growing, so please be kind wink.gif I'm not sure if this is the correct section to ask, but I'm looking for a strain which will produce mature flowers in a short time!

I've grown a small crop of (nirvana) NL and had limited success using Fluorescents, so am now looking for a fast grow to bridge the gap between getting a proper grow going under an HPS light.

I couldn't find anything too useful after a search so hope you don't mind a new topic wink1.gif
THEICEMAN
Hi dude,
Iv heard that TOP 44 finishes in 44 days, but in general your looking at 8-10 weeks bloom for a quality smoke.

A 250 hps would do it . more light more yeild. smoke.gif
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yes it's truth THEICEMAN, Top 44 have name because she finish in 44 days ... but that is about 45-50 days,depend of growers skil

Otto_ you can chose Top 44/Lowrayder/Lowrayder#2 and any starain which with "early" in name like Early Skunk ... etc etc

eXpand
Bonzai
All of these strains are considered what they call "Speed Demons" as most have the ability to finish in under the average of 8wks in the ideal growing environment.. Hashberry, Speed Queen and Sadhu from Mandala seed co.
Chocolate Chunk from T.H. Seeds, Matanuska Tundra & Pole Cat from Sagarmatha Seeds, Sweet Tooth #3 & Legends Ultimate Indica from Spice of Life seeds, Dutch Dragon, Durga Mata and Sensi Star from Paradise Seeds and Skunk Red Hair and Top 44 from Homegrown Fantaseeds, along with
Nirvana's: Ice, Northern Light and Big bud, Aurora Indica...

Source.....Skunk Magazine Vol.2 issue 3 page 29....

hope this helps....
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
skunk#1 mate, good for cuttings apparently and reasonably quick? lol.gif

By the way Welcome to the site.
snadge


afghan no1, The two phenos I got were 1 smaller yielder ready in 46/51days and the other a lot bigger yielder ready in about 55/58 days, they look different as well.
smiffy22toke
MAZAR EARLYGIRL DURBON POISSON ANYTHING WITH EARLY IN IT WILL BE FAST GROWING ALSO LOW RIyder LOW RIYDER CROSSESS hope they help -peace- ph34r.gif
spinachboy
Tiki Seeds Yarkoum is a 7-weeker, I'll be chopping one today on 49 days.....
Lizard
the fastest finnisher I've had yet is a phenotype of sensi seeds Shiva Skunk which finnished a couple of days short of 7wks, bloody nice smoke it was too but other pheno's can go as long as 9wks if not a little more.


Lowryder 2 sounds tempting to me they advertise 60 days from seed to harvest, if you are looking for a quick one it's gotta be worth a try, not too bad a smoke by all accounts either and due to it's autoflowering nature you could even flower it under the same light as your vegging plants.
compostverte
Don't forget that from seed you need to add at least 4 weeks for vegging - preferably more.

Personally I've never harvested anything under 10 weeks unless it was mouldy ...

... though my Tiki indicas ended up very stoney - the next batch will come out at 8 weeks.

Once your first decent harvest is in the jars, you'll stop worrying about how long it takes. guitar.gif
buddaman
is that fast growing or fast flowering most fast growing strains take longer to flower than most slow growing strains 12 weeks from seed and about 8 weeks from clone for most indica strains
Baba Ku
I've grown out Top 44 twice and they've never finished in less than 56 days. I've never heard of anyone who got an optimum crop in 44 days. That being said they are a nice little plant, with a good daytime/evening kind of stone. The taste is nothing special though. They are very short, so good if head height is an issue, and easy to grow, but to be honest there are better eight week strains out there. If you want a really quick finisher go for DP's Passion No.1 indoors, ready in six to seven weeks and a kick ass stone, but not a big yielder in my experience.
Lizard
QUOTE(Baba Ku @ Mar 4 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]877238[/snapback]

If you want a really quick finisher go for DP's Passion No.1 indoors, ready in six to seven weeks and a kick ass stone, but not a big yielder in my experience.




my passion #1 took loads longer to flower indoors than it did outside, also it stretched like hell and got burnt on the lights and I couldn't bend them over very well without the stems snapping, not really a very good indoor strain in my opinion.
gunnaknow
What about Northern lights? It is meant to be fast, easy to grow, good yielding and tasty. Any feedback on NL flowering time and yield? What about Sensi's hashplant?
stoney steve
early mist is a fast all round plant tho aimed at the out door griwer i belive it dose very well indoors to its a white widow strain that run at 11% hope that helps
kush-on-trent
Anything with early in the name is usually an outdoor variety refering to the early finishing time groen out doors and these are not ideal indoor varieties so remember that.
LOCUSTY
QUOTE(kush-on-trent @ Mar 4 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]877616[/snapback]

Anything with early in the name is usually an outdoor variety refering to the early finishing time groen out doors and these are not ideal indoor varieties so remember that.


You wanna see the size of my early skunk im growing indoors.
Will post pics soon, buts its basically 1 bud about 18in long and about 3 in across.
@29 days flowering! Its truly massive !!!
fatfreddy
I grew Top44 for a quick winter crop - took over 60 days (on 12/12) in the end. reasonable yeild The smoke was pretty mediocre - I wont grow it again.
fatfreddy
gunnaknow
QUOTE(LOCUSTY @ Mar 6 2007, 10:17 PM) [snapback]880142[/snapback]

You wanna see the size of my early skunk im growing indoors.
Will post pics soon, buts its basically 1 bud about 18in long and about 3 in across.
@29 days flowering! Its truly massive !!!


How many days total for flowering mate?
Bruno™
Early Durban from flying dutchman. I have this strain growing right now, it's 4 weeks in and the flowers are much larger than my other strains that went in at the same time. I think it's likely that it will be nice and mature at around the 8 week mark, I reckon in terms of growth it certainly a few(2) weeks ahead of my other pheno's. It's pretty dank, frosty and startin to stink. I think 8 weeks/56 days is about the best you can hope for, if you're going to realistic about it.
LOCUSTY
QUOTE(gunnaknow @ Mar 7 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]880519[/snapback]

How many days total for flowering mate?


Havent got a clue buddy, just gonna wait and see, being an outdoor strain its anyones guess.
Bruno™
QUOTE(compostverte @ Mar 3 2007, 07:02 PM) [snapback]876918[/snapback]

Don't forget that from seed you need to add at least 4 weeks for vegging - preferably more.


I agree with you 100%.

This is just a theory, what about South African strains that grow on/near the equator, they are constantly in 12/12, every day of the year. So they would naturaly go straight into flowering, I dont know if this is actually true, it's a pretty logical hypothesis.

penny for your thoughts

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Gert Lush
I suggest you don't worry to much about fast flowering Otto.

OK, pick an 8-9 weeker that appeals to you, not a 14 weeker, fair enough.
But after that, you got to remember there's the veg period, which is arbitrary, i.e. could be anything.. Vegging for 8 weeks, instead of 6 could massively increase your yield. These are things you'll find out as you go along. (You could veg for 0 weeks with an indica and it will be ready very fast, all two grams of it lol.gif )

After that, you've got to remember that good weed needs at least 2 weeks to dry, some say three. And then it's still not ready! A month of subsequent cure is recommended for optimal results.

So, you see, say 6 weeks veg + 2 weeks dry + 3 weeks cure (these are bare minimum figures), that's another 11 weeks on top of the flowering time (could be 15 if you ain't in a hurry).

So it would be false economy to bugger up your strain choice by trying to shave a week off flowering time.

If you're desperate for some weed ASAP, grow some Lowryder2 and water cure it. It will be ready in about 70-80 days, while you're getting your proper grow sorted out.
Gert Lush
QUOTE(Bruno™ @ Mar 14 2007, 10:18 PM) [snapback]888090[/snapback]
This is just a theory, what about South African strains that grow on/near the equator, they are constantly in 12/12, every day of the year. So they would naturaly go straight into flowering, I dont know if this is actually true, it's a pretty logical hypothesis.
It's not.

Firstly South African strains are not Equatorial, they're quite different. Highland Lesotho (Durb Poison) grows at 30 degrees South.

Now, Equatorial strains. Yes, you're right, they are in practically constant 12/12. This does not make them faster. Even though they'll show preflowers quite early, they'll only start proper flowering when they're good and ready. Sometimes this can mean four months, or more, from germination! After that they may take anything from 14-20 weeks to finish, or even more!

Even some hybrids which work under 12/12 from seed (e.g. SSH, C99) won't start proper flowering before 6 weeks from seed, even if they've shown preflowers.

FORGET Equatorial sativas if you're looking for fast-finishing weed. They are only for connoisseurs with all the patience in the world.

In fact, forget about "fast-finishing" weed and just do a few proper grows. Most "fast-finishers" are clones of special phenos, anyway, which experienced growers have found while growing out seeds over many years.
The difference that a fast pheno will make, will probably outweigh the choice of strain. Even seeds from the same pack can vary by two weeks, or even more, in their finishing time, as anyone can see by reading the diaries here. I think method of grow plays a role too.

Bruno™
QUOTE(Gert Lush @ Mar 15 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]888551[/snapback]

Firstly South African strains are not Equatorial, they're quite different. Highland Lesotho (Durb Poison) grows at 30 degrees South.


Now, All African strains originate between 30 degrees north and 30 degrees south, and even at the most extreme ends we're talking about an hour either way (11/13 or 13/11) depending on the time of year. I know this because I've seen it with my own eye's, and if I had to put a number on it, we're talking about a 12/12 regime 90% of the time.

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they'll only start proper flowering when they're good and ready


Auto flowering plants(ruderalis) are originally from pure South African seedlines, so it's safe to say,(if it's true) that an original durban would posses this quality. mmm

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FORGET Equatorial sativas if you're looking for fast-finishing weed. They are only for connoisseurs with all the patience in the world.


That goes with out saying, everybody know's that Pure Sativa's take the longest time to ripen, but you also get that high without a ceiling, that mental clarity rather than that groggy feeling. For me sativa's are the only day smoke that still allow's me to work and be productive while still enjoying the herb.

QUOTE("I said")
I dont know if this is actually true


I'm going to find out, since I came back from Africa to the uk last year, I've gone mad for Durban, at the moment I'm growing Early Durban, but I have about 6 different Durban strains, 2 of which you cant buy from and seed bank/retailer as a bought them back with me. I'm going to start them straight from seed to 12/12.

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I think method of grow plays a role too.


All sorts of factors can extend ripening time if you look around the forum you'll find all the information you need. The most obvious being nutrient issue's.Hydroponic grows tend to be faster than soil, but if something should go wrong, like your pump breaks, you have a very short period of time to rectify the problem before your plants wilt and die.

Peace


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Gert Lush
QUOTE(Bruno™ @ Mar 16 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]889523[/snapback]
Auto flowering plants(ruderalis) are originally from pure South African seedlines, so it's safe to say,(if it's true) that an original durban would posses this quality. mmm

Heya Bruno, I'm not sure about that at all, where did you hear it?
My understanding is that Ruderalis is an evolutionary branch of cannabis in the Northern lattitudes, to allow it to flower in time before the severe winter sets in. Therefore quite unlike regular cannabis. Siberian Ditchweed, basically, though the LR developers seem to be taking it in some interesting directions.

Would love to hear how your Durban works out. It's meant to finish real early, and be suited to the British damp climate. Durbs isn't the driest place in the world, after all lol.gif

hairy face
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vince noir rock n roll star
QUOTE(Lizard @ Mar 3 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]876912[/snapback]

the fastest finnisher I've had yet is a phenotype of sensi seeds Shiva Skunk which finnished a couple of days short of 7wks, bloody nice smoke it was too but other pheno's can go as long as 9wks if not a little more.
Lowryder 2 sounds tempting to me they advertise 60 days from seed to harvest, if you are looking for a quick one it's gotta be worth a try, not too bad a smoke by all accounts either and due to it's autoflowering nature you could even flower it under the same light as your vegging plants.




i did a grow of lowryders ...sure enough 60 days from seed to finish ..but and its a big but ,the quality was shite ,they grew uniformly max height was 16 inches ,looked lovely too but the taste was absolutely awful compared to other strains ,i did one outside which happened to be a big yeilder at 1 oz dried but it was soo disgusting that i binned it ! ,i managed to cross lowryder with bubblicious and can say that about half the seeds have the short auto flowering stature the rest are just bubblicious ...the short stature crosses have about 1/3 that are ok to smoke the rest have that awful taste (i cant describe it but its a musty foul odour unlike anything ive smelt before) ..so go with any early varieties but i would recommend avoiding the lowryders unless your not fussy about the tatse cry.gif
djay
Try Grapefruit x Maroc female seeds x-line i did a test grow with some of these and they were ready at 7 weeks , they budfaster than anything else i have tired and its one helluva stone off em dripping in resin awesome little cross..
Razzmatazz
QUOTE(Gert Lush @ Mar 16 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]889671[/snapback]

Heya Bruno, I'm not sure about that at all, where did you hear it?
My understanding is that Ruderalis is an evolutionary branch of cannabis in the Northern lattitudes, to allow it to flower in time before the severe winter sets in. Therefore quite unlike regular cannabis. Siberian Ditchweed, basically, though the LR developers seem to be taking it in some interesting directions.

Would love to hear how your Durban works out. It's meant to finish real early, and be suited to the British damp climate. Durbs isn't the driest place in the world, after all lol.gif


Agreeing with Gert here Bruno but i've also read from countless sources that Ruderalis is exactly how Gert explained it... Never come across Ruderalis in South Africa!!!

Durban is an early finisher cos the winters in SA can get real cold albeit not as cold as the UK excl.gif
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