hi

ive got Norton Internet Security 2005 currently installed on my Windoze XP laptop but its bugging me for subscription renewal, so i was wondering what other software i might use instead for firewall and anti-virus protection.

im not fussed whether its shareware or commercial, so long as i can download it from demonoid, its just i dont know what the best software to use is, not being that up on windoze.

any suggestions please would be most welcome.

thanks

try etrust website they do a year free trial and its good ive not had a single problem since been using that(last 6-8 months) i had loads with norton it just made my pc run like shite

scarface

NOD 32 is really good.

It doesn't slow down you PC like the bloated ones these days do with umpteen start-up apps and it's been voted the best AV too.

That ATF cleaner app is good too,no need to install just run it and that's free too.

Is there a particular software program you recommend that you get from etrust scarface?

My pc is virused up to the hilt and runnig ever so slowly and I just want to download something that'll clean it up.Your advice is most welcome mate as I thought I was going to be buying a new pc in the new year but don't have the spondoola so I've got to soldier on with my knackered old steamer of a pc.

is zone alarm a good firewall to use?

would nod 32 and zone alarm together do the job?

I pay for Bullguard and they are fantastic. Any viruses and they take a log, and get back to you within an hour with step by step guide about how to get rid of it. Really really good service. bout 40 quid a year. Only ever had a couple of self influcted viruses.
And I run Spybot Search and Destroy every coupla days, it gets rid of any spyware or malware, again, cant fault it, and its free.

Just my 2p

Sparky

AVG is Great!

Been useing it for years! Its free & you can download the pro version on most torrent sites!

It just sits there & don't bug you like the others!

Well worth getting! (-_-)

Zonealarm and Nod32 should be fine, definitely go for Nod32 for the anti-virus.


I used to like agnitum outpost firewall, it still get's rated well, Demonoid should have it.

Also for spyware, make sure you have 'spywareblaster' it is free and acts to block spyware in the first place.

For actually scanning for spyware, 'Spyware Doctor' is the best I have found, it was the only one of many that could find some spyware that was screwing my PC up. Demonoid will have that too I think.

i use norton anti-virus corp(not a memory hog) and sygate firewall works perfect for me

Yea, Norton or Symantec corp is a good AV.

as pushprocess says and adaware lavasoft.

and secreatmaker as recomended ages ago my MDP cheers m8 t.f.k.


o yea and there all free.

Well a big big up to our man Scarface as my pc is dancing around the room with happiness after installing the software he recommended.

I Just Got The Full version Of Adware From Demonoid Torrent!

Its Stays On All The Time In The Background!

It Works Really Well! (-_-)

ive decided that maybe the easiest thing for me to do is to disable the anti-virus in Norton Internet Security but keep the rest, like the firewall etc

and then install AVG for the anti-virus protection...

i dont want to spend any money on updates or subscriptions or shit like that...

anything wrong with this approach?

Chuck Out Norton And Just Use Your Windows Fire Wall!

You Will Get Lots Of Conflicts If You Keep That Bit Of Money Grabbing Software!

Try & Get The AVG Pro! (-_-)

I would remove Norton as completely as possible, but you will find it will leave tendrils all over the place. I just re-installed Windows as I just couldn't get it all gone.
It came already installed my Mums laptop

ok, i will do that.

theres a torrent on demonoid which is supposed to eradicate all traces of norton software.


this one - http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/721971/1112375/ norton removal tool...

i'll run that after doing a de-install..

No! You Dont Have To Reinstall Win!

Just Uninstall Norton! (-_-)

Sorry, I didn't mean you have to, just that's what I did.
The Norton removal tool is worth using Mu.

right...

norton internet secuity de-installed.

norton removal tool ran and it removed all the remaining crap that wasnt de-installed.

windows firewall running

avg anti-virus free version installed.


question - is the windows firewall ok for the job? is it secure? dont i need a commercial firewall instead?

another question..

whats the difference between the avg anti-virus free version and the pro version? ive installed the free version.. oops!

Its Always Work For Me!

I Found That When I Used Someone Eleses Wall It Just Had Conflict With Other Things!

Try And Get The AVG Pro! Its A Lot Better On Updating!

But If You Are getting It On A Torrent Dont Get A Crack One, It Dont Work! Pm Me And I Will Give You The Link That Does! (-_-)

so what should i be installing against spyware and adware? any links to torrents would be most helpful.

ta.

Windows firewall sucks big doodies...

What I use and install on any of the computers I fix is the following set of packages -

1. McAfee Internet Security - easy to use, far smaller footprint than Norton and doesn't slow machine down like Norton. Has Anti-Virus, Firewall, Privany Service and Anti-Spam if u use Outlook Express - Personally, I access all my mail online/

2. Microsoft Defender - free for genuine windows owners

3. Ad-Aware

4. TuneUp Utilities - anyone who doesn't have this should, it's brilliant for optimising your PC and fixing errors.


None of the machines I support with these packages on has ever had a virus/trojan problem

All are Demonoidable

thanks church, but would you mind elaborating on why windows firewall sucks... is it a security risk?

im downloading adaware se pro atm from demonoid.

The fact that Windows Firewall can be turned off by other applications is enough of a security risk in itself. It also does not block any outbound traffic.

i see. sounds fair enough.

im downloading avg pro which has a firewall so im going to switch to that.

ZoneAlarm is a great free firewall...

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/cata...=GB&lang=en

ok, zone alarm it is then

thanks church.

Thanks For The Advice On Win Firewall!

I Will Try Zone Alarm! (-_-)

ok i think im sorted now.


installed -

- Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite

- AVG Pro 7.1 Anti-virus

- Adaware SE


thanks Demonoid!!!




is that everything i need, or have i missed summink?

cheers guys



(bloody windoze )

If your copy of Windows is genuine, you may as well get Windows Defender - it's free

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx

it came pre-installed on my lappy, so i guess it must be...

i'll give give it a go, thanks again church.

Personally, on Winblow$ machines, I use BlackICE firewall, which is nice and compact, with a small system footprint, and F-PROT antivirus. These are installed to run all the time. I also occasionally run Lavasoft AdAware and Spybot S&D to remedy any mal/adware that may have appeared on the machine. (But hardly any ever does.)

HijackThis is a good util for getting rid of *really* hard-to-clean/find malware - you just need a second opinion, or a bit of knowledge on how to analyse the resultant logs it produces. If you understand how to use Regedit, then it really shouldn't be that hard for you.

ive always used avg, zonealarm, spy ware blaster and adaware with no problems.

after a windows update i got a heap of warnings saying my anti virus wasnt working or windows doesnt register so i downloaded F secure that then conflicted with ZA and removed ZA.


Havnt had a virus since and little spy ware and now get updates like watch for emails between certin date and date with tips to avoid or help if it was opened.. F secure is free for 12 months and seems to be simular to ZA pro.


Only problem i have now is with sites that use activ x no matter what i do the anti virus wont let the page open or play vids even after activx is downloaded and enabled.

NOD32 for anti-virus. Used to be Kaspersky but they lost the plot and went down the bloatware road. ISA 2k4 for firewall/network security. The only reason its ISA 2k4? I have a licence for it. Oh and it works. It uses cpu power like you wouldn't believe but it does work

I notice someone is using Blackice? I wrote part of that before ISS bought it That works (worked) too but its not a firewall. It was never designed to be a firewall and unless ISS have rewritten it from the ground up it never will be. Its intrusion detection software and while to the average user it looks like a firewall it isn't. It WAS way more powerful than an average statefuol firewall when deployed network-wide - stopped all zero-day exploits for an entire year on one test network. Use it if you like it but it is not a stateful firewall.

For the average UK user? NOD32, turn on the Windows XP firewall and if you have a router then use that firewall as well. Cost? The price of NOD32 really, which isn't much. Oh do us all a favour too and block all outbound netbios on the router please? It takes seconds to do and stops you broadcasting all over the WAN subnet every time you boot a machine up.

You wrote part of BlackICE? Cool - I've used it for years, but these days only behind hardware NAT - oh, no sorry, just remembered - got a few boxes that I maintain that're on cable modems without HW NAT. It does OK, really.

I hardly ever use Winblow$ anyway, these days - only for gaming, which I haven't done for months. I use FreeBSD and Ubuntu as my main desktop OSes, now.

I think that they must have re-written BI since you were with them, though, because it is now a stateful firewall.

Small world, hunh?

A very small world

BlackICE was always intended to be deployed behind whatever you use to filter out the noise. NAT will do that admirably. People place far too much belief in consumer-level hardware firewalls running on routers - in most instances a sofware firewall on the local machine will do much better. The firewall on 99% of ADSL routers I've seen is just ipchains (Speedtouch certainly is) so it's not really all that bright due to cpu & memory constraints. The firewall on the router should just be utilised as a filter, then inspect anything (with AV or IDS) that makes it through as no traffic is safe now.

Seems a pity that vista`s firewall hasnt been ported to xp as an security update yet, as it seems to be one of the most critical flaws in the os..

I use eset nod32 as my a/v & webroot spysweeper/win defender as my anti malware apps on both my vista and my xp boxes(I use a hardware firewall with windows built in running aswell).

Gotta say I`ve been using nod32 for an age now & tbh it`s by far the most unobtrusive a/v program that i`ve tried to date, it`s one of the few `noncracked` apps that i use & would pay for quite happily.

NOD32 was initially (still may be for all I know) built on the Kaspersky AV engine. We have 5 machines linked to our server and frankly this is the way remote admin was meant to be. I can push anything I want out to machines - eg I want everything connected to the network to commence a scan of their local disks in 10 minutes? Not a problem. I love it - I can fix AV probs on the kids machines without moving .

Listen to 'Not A Number', he knows what he's talking about!!

What ever you do, stay away from anything Norton based!

The only best AV i've used is by far NOD32, dont even bother getting anything else! I've seriously tried also every AV on the market and find NOD32 the best!!

As far as spyware scanner, there is no complete package, Ad-Adware's worth getting, others are two but they are sharp to sort out the cracked version of the apps so you forever seem to be updating etc!

I'm using Zonealarm firewall pro at the moment which is fine for me as i'm downloading through newsgroups, but i know zonealarm has some compatability issue's with certain bittorrent clients!!

Good luck mate!

I put Zone Alarm on my computer last night after reading some of the post! And today i have taken it street off again! Boy it just slowed everything down! And had a lot off conflicts! Now trying the firewall that come AVG! It seems to be working fine! A lot faster! (-_-)

Blackice?
Shit from the start?
It caused problems from the start

wow

huh?

no problems here... avg pro and zone alarm working fine...

my bit torrent download speeds went for a burton though until i realised i had to make a change in zone alarm... i only noticed it this morning when i tried to download a few files and the speeds were really slow... i fiddled around in zonealarm and after making a change my torrenting went back to the normal speed.

so now its all hunky-dorey...

sorry to hear you had problem pp.

avg is good for free as an antivirus, nowhere near as much of a resource hog as Nortons and its free.
Nod 32 is the general favourite, but the truth is the effectiveness of all these programs changes often, whilst Nod32 may be the number one most effective proggy in January it maybe number 10 in November,, these things are constantly changing.
as for spyware, I find a combination of things is good, I run Etrust pest patrol, Alluria spyware, and Noadware pro.
not much slips by that combo, but theres always one.

I used nod32 for a long time. Although it scans quickly with very low strain on your compuers resources I have always found that it rarely ranks in the top flight for overall virus detection.

I find now I am much happier with Kaspersky and would recommend it. It also has advanced features like monitoring all of your executable files for changes and protecting your registry. I've not noticed any slow down of any of my machines compared to nod32.

At the end of the day the best form of virus protection is being smart tho.

I also noticed recommendations for windows firewall, that is fine and well but it only scans incoming connections. Anyone would be far better off with a free firewall program that also monitors outgoing connections which can be essential in finding spyware that many AVs don't catch.

Yo Elduderino,

My pc was badly virused up so I downloaded etrust AV of some type and that helped a lot but its still not right. Where can I get Nod32 from and I guess I'll have to wipe the etrust before I load the Nod32 if I can get it.Is that right?

Any other recommendations as a package would be helpful. It's a 1 gig pc.

Don't have 2 anti-virus programs installed at once - no need, and they can conflict.

Have a read through the thread rockster, lots of good recommendations