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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Hi all.

I'm going to take my first foray into oil production this week guitar.gif

I've had a read of some of the wonderful posts (cheers grobag yahoo.gif ) and I feel pretty confident I can do this safely. unsure.gif

I've had trouble sourcing decent butane in my area, the only thing i have found on the 'zero impurities' benchmark is K2, is this good enough? I have a few orders for newport in, but was keen to start 'oiling'

Another thing if anyone can help.... For reasons of capacity I was leaning towards trying the cafetiere method (still need to find a suitable one), but for reasons of safety I was toying with buying a honeybee extractor, while I learn the craft oldtoker.gif

I also heard something about using a section of scaffold bar as a tube to perform the reaction in, but it sounds a bit 'mettallic and explody' to me fear.gif

anyone got any pointers for me? reviews of the honeybee thing, yields, capactiy etc, and mainly experience using K2.


cheers in advance for any help offered, as i may have blown my hands off by the weekend and not be able to type wheelchair.gif


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dopedog
all the best dude smoke.gif spliff.gif

good luck
SeNsI-SaMuRaI
So.... anyone give a monkey's as to what i found out? nea.gif


Well I'm goin to to tell y'all anyway, ather round... sleep1.gif

I decided against the Honey Bee as it:
  1. Cost more money than I wanted to part with
  2. Looked 'awfy small in capacity
  3. Plastic inside and out unsure.gif
I went looking for a cafetiere that:
  1. Was suitably cheaper than a Honey Bee
  2. Glass or steel chambered
  3. decent capacity
  4. Pyrex, or solid metal construction for safety (metal fear.gif)
could I bastard find one? nea.gif

But then, lurking on a high shelf in a low-budget, well known high-street chain I found this:

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  1. £3
  2. Steel inner (no contamination from plastic)
  3. Insulated Plastic outer (much safer in practice than direct contact with metal or glass containing butane)
  4. Large 60.gif capacity (just under 500ml which in practice is just dandy for working with 300ml of butane + a load of green)
  5. Insulated plastic lid, no metal on metal contact (zero spark risk fear.gif)
  6. Movable spout/stopper, great for safe pouring of volatile liquids
  7. Handy steam hole (or butane IN hole sorcerer.gif )


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rofl.gif anwaaaaaay..............

The method for BHO using my travel cup thing is the same as grobag describes for his coffee pot method, thanks again for that dude, I owe this whole thread and all my oily antics to you m8 cheers.gif .

Here is a couple of pics of what i've achieved with my little tin cup wink1.gif

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A blob of Oil from an extraction of Euforia/Pot of Gold, I was surprised at the colour spliff.gif

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
mmmm sticky smoke.gif

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This was another run, of 100% Euforia (sounds like a dance cd) came out more like the first ever run I did (no pics) looking a lot more deserving of the 'honey' name tag, I think.. what y'all reckon?

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Some filthy closeups (sorry about stoned camerawork photo.gif )



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squirrel
The darker one looks awesome. notworthy.gif Never seen oil like the yellow one, how does it smoke?
SeNsI-SaMuRaI
This is it just after freezer purge, looking a bit like a chrysalis it occurred to me stoned.gif

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And here it is, looking more like baby poo this time pooh.gif


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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
More photo.gif ? well if you insist tongue.gif

This is it squirming on a nail guitar.gif

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And a closeup

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And after a lick of flame wink.gif

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And to answer the question, it smokes GrrrRREAT ! yahoo.gif its pure, its clean, its THC-tastic! it's a one-hit wonder in the bong and oils up a bifta just luvverly smoke.gif

Hope you liked the pics folks, all comments appreciated


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SS

squirrel
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dikki
very nice
very nice indeed

have ya tried woolies for the cafetierre?

edited to add:
i got me last 1 from john lewis's i think?? unsure.gif

but woolies do a full range & they also sell the liners separate if ya crack 1 yahoo.gif
dikki
hehehe

mrs dikki strikes again!



mrs dikki say 'man who want cafetierre, go boot sale on sunday morn' rofl.gif
SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Just a quick photo.gif update to show you what Ive been smokin'

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
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spliff.gif spliff.gif spliff.gif spliff.gif stoned.gif

I couldnt resist, it was just in the freezer.. calling me "smoooooke me... smooooke me..."

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SS
rancid-nomad
Nothing better than getting something from nothing , well done mate wink.gif spliff.gif
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
Looks lovely. Ive not tried making oil yet. Tempted now.

Hey, If you mix some scuff in that oil, do you get jellyhash?

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FRAY
Looks potent mate spliff.gif

How much bud / trim did u use to get that much oil, looks like theres a nice lump there wink.gif


Well done mate
fray yinyang.gif
Leprechan Sweet Leaf
How exactly did you do it, did you empty cans of butane into it then turn it upside down or did you drill the bottom of the cup?

intrigued. whistling.gif

grobag
Only just spotted this thread! doh.gif

Leprechan: Check my sig. wink1.gif

Nice work Sensi mate. wink1.gif

Just the one question.... Did you filter through a paper coffee filter out of the pot? Makes for a much purer oil does that. wink1.gif

Mmmmmm.....Oily.

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Hi, thanks for the replies, I'll do my best to answer your questions...

QUOTE(Leprechan Sweet Leaf @ Mar 10 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]883861[/snapback]
Looks lovely. Ive not tried making oil yet. Tempted now.

Hey, If you mix some scuff in that oil, do you get jellyhash?



Ill be honest with ya m8 I dont know unsure.gif , its gorgeous to smoke but horrendous to work with. I handle it as little as possible, its evil fear.gif.


QUOTE(FRAY @ Mar 12 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]885292[/snapback]
Looks potent mate

How much bud / trim did u use to get that much oil, looks like theres a nice lump there


Well done mate
fray


cheers fray cheers.gif It is potent, many times more potent than whatever weed/trim you start out with yahoo.gif , as for yields, not massive nea.gif about 7g trim made about 0.5g of oil, but I was after quality, not quantity. smoke.gif

QUOTE(Leprechan Sweet Leaf @ Mar 13 2007, 03:36 AM) [snapback]886122[/snapback]
How exactly did you do it, did you empty cans of butane into it then turn it upside down or did you drill the bottom of the cup?

intrigued.



Firstly, I learned from the FAQ's on it and the excellent threads by grobag notworthy.gif
Therein lies great knowledge concerning science and safety excl.gif . (which I now dont need to bother with shifty.gif cos' u can all read it there first whistling.gif )

I'll do my best to get a breakdown of my method, with pics done for ya this week, but no theres no drilling and no turning upside down fear.gif
QUOTE(grobag @ Mar 13 2007, 06:32 AM) [snapback]886151[/snapback]
Only just spotted this thread! doh.gif

Leprechan: Check my sig.
Nice work Sensi mate.

Just the one question.... Did you filter through a paper coffee filter out of the pot? Makes for a much purer oil does that.

Mmmmmm.....Oily.



Cheers gro,

Everyone interested in making Oil should read grobags sig imo.

Short answer m8, yes the oil is double filtered as per the patented gro method guitar.gif

Like I said above, I'll get a breakdown of my method done as soon as possible, i was going to make it a whole new thread, but as theres interest in here i might as well keep all my pooh.gif in one place rofl.gif

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SS
grobag
QUOTE(Leprechan Sweet Leaf @ Mar 10 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]883861[/snapback]

Hey, If you mix some scuff in that oil, do you get jelly hash?


Yup. cool.gif

When making up just a little bit of percy for a joint, I sprinkle in the trichs from the crystal catcher and mix them together. I generally prefer to use dry sifted resin for jelly hash as it is much easier to do than bubble.
A nicely purged lump of BHO mixed 50/50 with resin powder, rolled into a worm down the doob. Can't beat it. smoke.gif
Lazlo Woodbine
Lovely Job Sensi ... great pics too ... smoke.gif


Laz

SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Thank You Laz, tho as u will see they get progressively worse as I get more stoned doh.gif


Ok, as promised a breakdown of my method for BHO in my little tin cup smoke.gif





excl.gif Important excl.gif

Working with butane and the likes can be extremely dangerous (also great fun sorcerer.gif ). Honey Oil and Hash Oil is great smoke but it is not worth harming yourself to make, Please be careful and for fucks sake DO NOT SMOKE while making BHO.



First thing I do is get together what I'm going to need, you dont want to get caught needing something in the middle of a evaporation (especially if its something like a vap dish whistling.gif )


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Approximately 7g of well dried, scissor-chopped, semi-reasonable trim (If you have read grobags sig thread you will understand we need a decent amount of trichomes for good results) And my tin cup specool.gif

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I couldnt find a metal coat hanger on the day I tried grobags method, this is the solution I MacGyver'd guitar.gif And my trusty 'Vap dish, its clear and its PYREX so it wont go 'pop' at the critical moment. Oh, and a non metallic stirrer, I'm using a plastic chopstick.

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Anything else you need should be assembled at this point. butane evaporates at room temp, but my work area is cold, so just in case Ive got some simmering water ready, a steamer and a slow cooker insert I use as a stand for the vap dish.

The main thing is to get everything ready, before we start, clean and prepare your work area have your last smoke etc.

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Ok I apologise for the pictures being less descriptive of the method than the last batch, this is because I was trying to be safe, and not piss around with the camera.

Essentially what happened was this:
  • Put lid on cup of trim
  • Put on pair of marigolds rolleyes.gif
  • Put heavy workgloves on top of that (thermal protection is the key, youll see why in a mo)
  • Emptied 250ml of butane into the cup find the best nozzle to fit, and strike a balance between good fit on the 'IN' and not building too much pressure on the 'OUT', use a cloth to cover potential spray, otherwise youll spit trim everywhere or build up too much pressure which cant be good fear.gif
  • Using the chopstick I make sure all the trim is under the surface of the liquid butane, I replace the lid, shutting the spout halfway

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Trim in the tin cup

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When you have the lid on u can safely 'swirl' the contents, or take off the lid and stir manually, but beyond that I dont get too vigorous unsure.gif

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.. However what ur looking at here is the butane bubbling and 'reacting' all by itself w00t.gif

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
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quite transfixing to watch it boil away even tho its freezing, Im glad that the travel cup has a plastic outer to make it safer to handle when its so cold.

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hubble bubble...sorcerer.gif

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ooooOOOOooooo wibbly wobbly boootayne wacko.gif

.. think the fumes are getting to me now doh.gif

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
One more because I think it looks cool guitar.gif

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Now for the filtration:
  • Camera down
  • gloves on
  • Carefully pour the liquid out of the handy spout in the travel cup, being careful not to spill
  • make sure ur 'vap dish is in place under the filters.
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Heres the last of the liquid butane filtering merrily away...

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And almost immediately theres ice forming on the underside of the pyrex dish. Now you can see why the safety measures excl.gif


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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
Some more shots of the glacial onset whistling.gif

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI
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I moved things to the bamboo steamer once the majority of the butane had evaporated. Note: Im not heating actively under the 'vap dish, the butane has pretty all gone of its own accord anyway...

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I put a white plate underneath here so you could see the 'rings' of honey oil forming as the butane evaporates...

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MMMMMMM tasty yahoo.gif
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photo.gif closeup!

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SeNsI-SaMuRaI

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After a little scrape up...

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Plopped it onto a bit of polythene for purging and storage...

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Played with it a while while popping in and out of the freezer to purge the last of the butane...


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SeNsI-SaMuRaI

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rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif played some more...


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Ooops! found the other teeny stash while bumbling around the freezer drawers whistling.gif

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The most recent batch, no longer in duck/nessie/dump form...



SeNsI-SaMuRaI
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The previous batch of BHO, very potent this is, very strong 'up' high, mucho THC imo smoke.gif


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Some dirty ISO-oil I made earlier ph34r.gif Its definetly got a broader cannabinoid range, I love this stuff, its essentially just the best of the strain, concentrated yahoo.gif

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And well i had to experiment a bit wacko.gif


Well, thats it for now, hope y'all liked the pics as much as I enjoyed being twatted whilst taking them smoke.gif


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SS
Canna-Bliss
nice work my friend
oil is always on the menu for me when i have finished a crop.

i just love the fekking stuff.. guitar.gif

hope ya have some good times on that shit wink1.gif
powerband
Interesting reading SS, makes me want to maybe have a go thumbsup.gif
Nice piccys as well wink.gif

Ms Powerband wink.gif
grobag
Excellent thread mate, it's always great to see a bit of ingenuity producing the results. smoke.gif

I'm gonna be making a bit myself over the weekend and the beginning of next week, gonna post up a jelly thread at the same time if you're interested. 13.gif

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Leprechan Sweet Leaf
Aye good thread. Thanks for the extra detailed pics. whistling.gif

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