Some NepJam F2s came into the clasp of me grubby mitts - many thanks once again to the F2 seed fairy.

I don't have a lot of space - hardly any in fact - so I only germed six seeds about a month ago.
Of these, I suppose I got the typical mix of stuff you'd expect from F2s.

Two plants have that very impressive broad leaf that you associate with Nepalis.
Of these, one is going to be a monster, it's already looking much bigger than anything else. The other very broad leaf seeding is very short (half the height of the big one), but also very broad leafed and heathy-looking.

Further, there were two other plants that looked OK, although they do seem a bit lankier, I think there's a chance they may be males.

Finally, there were two weak-looking ones, one with that wilted look to the leaves (like soaked and re-dried paper - I don't know how else to describe it or what its called officially); this one's in the Happy Composting Grounds atm, and the other weak one may soon follow it - depends.

I'll be flipping them to 12/12 in a few days, I topped the three best looking ones so that I could take clones, you never know when that decent pheno may come along....

No photos at the moment, but I may be doing something soon to make up for Santa's appalling lapse. I won't suject you to the ignominity of the webcam this time .

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I'd be curious to know, if possible, which are the more "Nep" traits (say, like broad leaves) and which are the more "Jam". Any info appreciated. If I get a decent male and female, I might even make a handfull of F3 seeds, just for a laugh.

Happy growing in 2007, one and all!

High Gert Lush! Sorry for the delay in the reply!

F2 hybrids usually show a wider phenotypical expression than F1 hybrids due the high genetic recombination when producing the F2 generation. When 2 unrelated inbred lines are combined to produce the F1 hybrid usually only the most dominant traits are shown in the hybrid. But the F2 generation allows to show other more recessive traits that could not appear in the F1 generation, producing new combinations and expressions.

F2 generation are less vigorous than F1 hybrid. F1 is produced using 2 unrelated lines. The differences in the genetics produces heterosis or what we call hybrid vigour. But when we combine 2 parents of the same F1 hybrid to produce F2 generation both parents are brothers and quite related genetically so there's a lost of vigour.

Original Nepalese Jam F1 was bred using a highland nepalese female and a jamaican 85 male.

The nepalese grows more compact, columnar and robust than jamaican. The leaf is wider and general appearance is darker. The flowering time is around 9 weeks producing very dense high quality sativa buds. High is clean and long lasting., very happy.

Jamaican grows taller and lankier, with classical Xmas tree appearance. Leaf is thin and flowering time is around 12-13 weeks. The jamaican line has been stabilized here in Spain for 20 years reducing a little the flowering time of the original parents and improving cold resistance.

Nepalese Jam F1 hybrid is very nepalese dominant, growing compact and finishing fast like the nepalese mother but it's more vigorous and high yielding thanx to the jamaican influence.

Embalmer Nepalese Jam mother was very interesting so the F2 generation has the potential to produce interesting combinations. Please, keep us updated with your progresses! Thanks for posting!

Good luck with the grow! dubi

Your 303 surely is a worthy suitor for a potential cross?

But you say you've topped 2 of them?

I can't see it.What you on?or is it me?

Hya dr rockster, good to see ya!

It's you, I'm afraid .
As I described right at the start, I topped them after the fifth node, and then took only one clone, leaving the remaining tip to carry on growing as if it was untopped. (I have more vertical space than floor space - sigh). You can see this quite clearly (I think) in the middle "lanky" plant.

What light do you have these under Gert? You spoke of heat issues.Still tailoring your growroom set up, yes?

Indeed he will.........

I thought you didn't like the taste!

Obviously, anyone reading this should bear in mind that these are F2 seeds and that this is just one pheno (more on the way ) so it's quite possible that others' experiences may differ. Sometimes a lot.

Having said that, I was very impressed with this smoke, and it certainly gave me some of the "Nepali" qualities I was expecting and hoping for.
The smell of the weed was an average light lemony smell, very nice, nothing special, though. The "Momma" pheno, unfortunately did not carry the lovely true-Nepali smell of the "runt" pheno, described elsewhere in these pages. The smoke was ultra-smooth, felt like it had been cured for two months, let's hear it for water curing.

The taste: Well, I'm the world's last person to ask about taste. So long as it's not obnoxious,and mildly pleasant, that's all I need to know. This NepJam left a nice aftertaste, you might have smacked your lips if you remembered, but it's not the glorious thick Afghan taste of , say, a Durga (which is my taste benchmark). I'm pretty sure the taste freaks will like it, though, it has nothing off-putting to it.

The important stuff (high profile): Initially, after smoking a bowl, I felt very energised and clear, without too much psychoactive effect in the head. I couldn't help wondering if it would turn out like those "energising" weeds, which get you up and going, but not much in the head dept. Well, happily this was not the case. The psychoactivity of this weed creeps up on you after it's energised you, and very nice it is too.

You may be fooled initially because the weed has very little disorientation factor and stacks of clarity, so it's a while before you realise - "Wow, i'm high, now". The high is extremely cerebral, and if this is not meditation weed, I don't know what is. A very definite "temple" vibe throughout, even though it expands your mind, it doesn't send you "sidewise" to use an expression of a learned friend. It reminds you to stay respectful, without having to scare you into doing so. A weed for celebrating!

I'd say the weed keeps you very up, wonderfully motivated, and any thought-provoking revalations that pop into your bonce will not be forgotten once the effect has worn off. No, and in fact, if you're anything like me, they'll still make sense. I think this would be great weed for writers and literary creative types. I can also see why some people hoovered their whole house under the influence!

Let's put it this way, all this week I have mainly been smoking an extremely energising blend of 50-50 Green Devil and C99, mainly to keep me going due to the awful cold I had. So I had an established level of "energising weed" to compare against. The NepJam was easily as energising as this blend, but far more civilised, with an extra "spiritual" dimension and NO rough edges.

If there was one quibble I had, I found the smoke to be a tad less strong than I expected, although you can easily remedy this by taking an extra puff. I don't view this as a major setback, could have just been the pheno. So I'm definitely keeping this mum, at least till a better one comes along. And so far, I've only tested a little bowl, I'd like to do a session with just this stuff, should be interesting.

Joolz has recived recently the Highland Nepalese backcrossed version, which is Nepalese jam F1 crossed again to Nepalese Highland (same nepalese strain). The compact and fast flowering nepalese pheno is very dominant in the new version.