Fishy
Oct 30 2006, 12:10 PM
I'm looking for some taming advice as i expect these to grow tall.
Hi all, seeds are soaking and this is my first attempt at a Sativa dominant strain.
My 8ft grow room will allow plants to grow to an absoulte maximum of 5ft 5" allowing for pot heigh and lamp etc.
I plan to grow straight from seed, veg for 4 to 6 weeks to pre-flower and then flower.
If you have grown Kali mist before i'd like to hear how and at what stage you topped,supercropped etc.
Kali Man if you read this i'd love to hear from you as i can see from your grow diaries you have grown out this strain at least twice and your results looked amazing.
Thank you all in advance
Jk12345
Oct 30 2006, 12:14 PM
hi fishy ive never grown kali b4 but the guy i get my seeds from is the uk distributor of serious, im not 100% but i dont think you want to veg that long you will get some absolute monsters
you can supercrop more than once so that shudent be a problem as long as you do it in veg only
hempstick
Oct 30 2006, 01:08 PM
i vegged mine for nearly 6 weeks from seed and at 52 days 12/12 shes only just over 25ins. I topped her twice and restricted her growth by leaving it longer than usual before potting up so she would show sex before bein put in 12/12 but not be too big coz of low-light intensity.
Shes still got a long flo period tho aint showin any signs of bein finished any time soon but i dont mind coz i know shes gonna be fookin great!
tbh i were hoping she would stretch alot more than she did coz i had to piss around with light hight
not sure if tyin 'em back would be better,
good luck, i were in the same predicament as you are
The Cygnet
Oct 30 2006, 01:09 PM
Four to six weeks in veg? Oh My!! Methinks you really don't want to do that. Now, bearing in mind I rarely grow straight from seeds, I'd much rather use clones....
I have grown Kali Mist. Once. Didn't find it too much of a 'stretcher', but then I'm used to growing Sativa dominant strains. Having said that, though, to me a whole week in veg is a VERY VERY long time.....
It's real difficult to advise from here. How long to be in veg for depends a great deal on your roots, i.e. how long does it take your plants, once you transplant to under the BIG LIGHT, to really get going?
Unless you're giving them lots of space in which case they'll need time to spread out (and with a 5'5" limit I'd pack them in tight) you want to give them their darkness almost as soon as you can see them really 'kicking in'. They will continue to grow for three weeks yet. Don't move onto bloom feed until you have flowers, otherwise they really will stretch.
To put this into perspective, I had a successful run with NL5 x Haze for many years, putting them into flower as soon as the first set of leaves came up after the transplant....i.e. one or two days veg growth AT MOST. I had mates used to rib me about my 11 week season, until they sussed I never used my big lights for more than eleven hours a day, and that my '11 week' season was shorter than their '8 week' season........
The only rider I'd add to this is that growing from seed it often takes longer for a plant to flower. Some of the more Sativa ones seem to also need to reach a certain maturity as well as get their darkness. So growing from seed, and putting in to flower early, I guess there's a possiblitiy that you'll dwarf 'em. Personally, with your height restrictions, I'd so a flower, choose the best, and work from clone.....
This all seems a bit muddled to me. Do feel free to pm me if you want more.....
Jk12345
Oct 30 2006, 01:20 PM
QUOTE(hempstick @ Oct 30 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]739626[/snapback]
i vegged mine for nearly 6 weeks from seed and at 52 days 12/12 shes only just over 25ins. I topped her twice and restricted her growth by leaving it longer than usual before potting up so she would show sex before bein put in 12/12 but not be too big coz of low-light intensity.
Shes still got a long flo period tho aint showin any signs of bein finished any time soon but i dont mind coz i know shes gonna be fookin great!
tbh i were hoping she would stretch alot more than she did coz i had to piss around with light hight
not sure if tyin 'em back would be better,
good luck, i were in the same predicament as you are

pot bounding your plants is a realy bad idea your better of super cropping, and whats the deal with the lo light, you wana get as much light as possable, the more light = more yeald
hempstick
Oct 30 2006, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(Jk12345 @ Oct 30 2006, 02:20 PM) [snapback]739642[/snapback]
pot bounding your plants is a realy bad idea your better of super cropping, and whats the deal with the lo light, you wana get as much light as possable, the more light = more yeald
they weren't pot bound they were left "longer than usual before potting up", which means longer than i'd personally usually leave them .
Whats wrong with my light? I have a 250w so the light intensity on large plants (above 3ft for me) isnt all great below the top of the canopy which is the other reason i kept the kali short.
TBH, ur best bet is to take mature cuttings then flower them if you can, thats what i'd of done given the choice
Fishy
Oct 30 2006, 02:14 PM
Thank you for your replys.
Hi Hempstick. I'm amazed your kali has grown to just 25 inches, as i expect you are. Did you get your kali mist from serious seeds? it is supposed to be 90% sativa.
Cygnet whilst in the future i may set up a mother room and work from clones it's not really practical for me at the moment.
My room is 4ft square and 8ft high with a 600w MH light for veg and switch to 600w sodium for flower. I can fit 16 x 10 litre pots or more likely 9 x 15 litre pots.
Ideally i'd like 4 ft plants. Hempstick at what approximate height or time did you top? I'm thinking maybe topping just once could do the trick
hempstick
Oct 30 2006, 02:44 PM
Yeah serious seeds, i were surprised too i got them from the 420 shop so they are the real deal. they did their stretch under an mh lamp but heard that it makes hardly (if any) difference.
I topped at the 5th node then i let those 2 branches gro out a bit then topped again at the two branches 1st node (i guess it's the *sixth* node really).
I let the 1st topped branches develop bout 2 nodes before deciding which would be the best place to top, i dont kno if its bad practise to let it devolop more nodes then chop 'em all off in the end like i did but it leaves it in veg longer which was convenient at the time.
Just wanna add that when i put her in 12/12 two branches from the second topping were stunted with one more so than the other i took that one off to try an' root it and left the other one on but its twice as low as the rest of its canopy is

but not underdeveloped at all
How many seeds you got soaking?
Fishy
Oct 30 2006, 03:07 PM
Hempstick, cheers for the detailed info.
I've soaked 10 Kali mist.
I've just read something by ed rosentail that says Kali mist "Seedlings are ready to flower after 30 to 40 days of veg at which point they should be clipped to avoid ungainly heights".
As i have a bit of headroom i think i may go for one topping
Kali Man
Oct 30 2006, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(Fishy @ Oct 30 2006, 12:10 PM) [snapback]739550[/snapback]
I'm looking for some taming advice as i expect these to grow tall.
Hi all, seeds are soaking and this is my first attempt at a Sativa dominant strain.
My 8ft grow room will allow plants to grow to an absoulte maximum of 5ft 5" allowing for pot heigh and lamp etc.
I plan to grow straight from seed, veg for 4 to 6 weeks to pre-flower and then flower.
If you have grown Kali mist before i'd like to hear how and at what stage you topped,supercropped etc.
Kali Man if you read this i'd love to hear from you as i can see from your grow diaries you have grown out this strain at least twice and your results looked amazing.
Thank you all in advance
hi Fishy when i grew kali from seed i topped mine when it was big enough to leave 4 mian side shoots (hope that makes sense

) and they ended up very manageable
with 5ft 5" to play with clones im shure could go un topped just do a bit of tying down if they get out of hand
i only grew kali once and did'nt get the best out of her was my first grow in compost but its one of my fav smokes very spicey top smoke
me cureing jars that had kali in still smell of spicey pepper and that is with a few different strian having been in them
have just bought some more seeds to find a keeper
Fishy
Oct 30 2006, 04:49 PM
Cheers Kali,
It was your first go at organic in 2005 caught my eye.
Thanks for the tipping tips

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MDP
Oct 30 2006, 04:59 PM
I`ve had problems with mould when growing Kali as a single cola, I`ve preferred since to top her a couple of times in veg to try for a candelebra type shaped plant.
She is without doubt an absoulute blinding plant to grow/smoke tho mate, enjoy.
Fishy
Oct 30 2006, 05:08 PM
Got me checking my dictionary there MDP!
Good point.. I got severe mould on an outdoor plant this year, it was gutting
A large Candelstick shape plant it is then
pinhead1337
Oct 30 2006, 06:41 PM
Kali Man are your diarys still online? Looking to grow this strain next year and Im interested in reading em
Halfatree
Oct 30 2006, 06:59 PM
QUOTE(niceone @ Oct 30 2006, 05:30 PM) [snapback]740076[/snapback]
Hi Fishy, this first grow KM reached 5ft 10in.
chopped it around 85 days.
holy cow niceone that is one big lass

I can see why MDP said mould might be a problem.. with a cola that size
Fishy
Oct 31 2006, 06:26 AM
Niceone, What a great beast! You must of been mighty proud when waving that one around!
I'm tempted to take cuttings but i would need to build a new veg room. And as i do it in the attic i only have a 8 month window of guaranteed cooler weather to get good results. I think my mothers would stress out or worse fry as summer attic temps go above 30 without any light input. Hence i have been sticking to seeds and some of the randomness they bring.
Pin Head - Kali man has got a good string of images in memebers bud shots. If you search Kali mist/ bud shots, kali man's Kali mist is on page 3.
Fishy
Oct 31 2006, 07:06 AM
Niceone, How long did you veg for? How did the height of the clones compare to the straight from seed?
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