Good afternoon.

I thought that I would start this thread for two reasons. Firstly to show, with pictures, the coffee pot method of making BHO; and secondly to show that there is still oil to be had from trim/bud that has had all of it's capitate resin heads bubbled off.

First up, here's a picture of the trim/bud I will be using. It has already been bubbled once and at the time of this picture was on the window cill drying out again. As you can see, there are no resin heads left on the stalks.

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You really don't need much equipment to make oil this way. The main thing that you need is a cafatierre coffee pot. The one I use is stainless steel but if you were to use a pyrex one then I assume that you could see what is going on inside once the ice melts off a bit. This is my coffee pot.

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You will also need a flat pyrex dish to evaporate in, a coffee filter, 4xwooden clothes pegs and a wire coat-hanger! Oh, and a couple of cans of butane (Newport is the best but any will do).

Bend the wire coat-hanger so that it forms a loop and a handle. Like this:

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You can then peg the coffee filter to it and not have to touch it whilst pouring through the liquid butane.

If you take the stem out of the coffee pot (my handle unscrews and it slides out) and put a nozzle from the lid of the butane can in the lid instead. Like so:

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Then you can squirt the butane in the top like this:

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But be careful because it freezes up like this:

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You will need to cover the spout aswell whilst you squirt in the gas. I just use a tea towel.

When you have squirted in both cans of gas, replace the stem and filter back into the pot to slow down evaporation at this point. When it all warms up a bit, it looks like this, so you can see the level of the liquid butane inside:

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Here's a shot of the trim/bud in the coffee pot before I squirted in the gas:

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and here's a shot after, when it is soaked in liquid butane:

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I give it a good shake about with the lid and filter/plunger back on to make sure it all gets soaked.

So after it had soaked for about 5-10 mins, it was ready to pour out through the filter, into the evaporation dish. Here is the wire coat-hanger thingy again aswell:

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and a close up inside the filter:

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Plus a close up of the ice forming on the bottom of the filter to show how cold it all is:

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Next up comes the evaporation. This is easy with butane as it is a gas at room temperature. Obviously this should be done outside because the build up of gas can be explosive!

I find the easiest method is to put a tub of hot water under the 'vap dish and 2 minutes later it will have all gone. Like so:

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Here is a close up of the 'vap dish whe the butane has all evaporated:

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And even closer:

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Now all you have to do is scrape it all up. IPA can be very useful for this to redissolve the BHO in a few drops to help pool it all into one area for scraping. I just scraped it up with a stanley blade.

I put it on a wrap of plastic for keeping it. If you put this in the freezer, then return it to room temperature a few times, this will purge it of any remaining butane.

Here are a couple of pics of this batch. It is darker than BHO usually is but this I put down to it not being from the capitate heads. Oil from bubbled trim always comes out a little darker for some reason - but it is just as strong.

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Nice one Gro, might have a bash tomorrow

whats the best amount of trim to use in the coffeepot? Half full or to the top or somewhere in between?

Good stuff gro i still have trim in the tights from my last hash making venture , i may too give this a go

looks lovely just like "honey"

I find the easiest way of smoking it is to tack a bit onto a knife, gently heat it from below until runny, then spread it into a joint (or cigarette).

Tacked on a knife:

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Heated up:

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Spread into a roll-up, and this totaly stoned me!

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good work fella,

just one quick question, why use the coffee filter at all cant u just pour it in the evap dish and let nature take its corse?

grobag you're a star!

I've got 2 oz. of well-kiffed skuff (soon to be 3oz.) and I'm sitting here thinking, - "ooh, I don't want to use QWISO oil for the jellyhash this time, I'd like something a bit more exotic and flash: BHO!

I was about to look through the threads for ideas, and what do I come across? An illustrated and expanded edition of your cafetiere method! Perfection.

Cheers mate, I'll be doing it in a couple of weeks!

PS: Glad to see you confirmed my idea of using a dash of IPA to make collection easier.
BTW (OT) what on earth do you use as active carbon filter when filtering IPA?

its ok i just figured it


smoking in the day eh!!!!!!!

FD: I find it easiest when the pot is half to two thirds full.

Cheers for the comments guys.

Here's a few more pics of the finished product.

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I was thinking of using one of these pictures as a new avatar but then I do like the picture of the little trifoliate seedling. Plus I always find it confusing when people change their names or avatars, so I'll keep mine the same for the time being. A lil' puddle of Trichome Treacle would make a good avatar though eh?

Take it easy everyone and have a nice day - I'm off to bloody work now

Rionight: The paper coffee filter is just to make sure that no plant matter gets through into the oil, contaminating it, seeing as it is so pure - it would be a shame to have lumps in.

Gert: From another thread - you can use any activated carbon but it is better to use one with as little powder in as possible as it's hard to filter out itself. I don't bother with a carbon filter though as you loose yield and it doesn't really make much difference - just changes the colour a bit. By the way - their use is only for Iso washing oil anyway, not for BHO, there really would be no point with Butane extractions.

Onwards and Upwards.

Gro

I've heard of the coffee pot technique somewhere.

I'm glad I've seen it being demonstrated here.

Nice one chap...

Good one mate, just got over my fear of explosions and did this myself. Got a stanley blade covered in what looks like English mustard downstairs! Watching the butane evaporate off was a seriously psychedelic experience as well. Perhaps I caught a whiff of it in the process. Thanks for the guide!

Hey Gro

Just wanted to say thanks for a really useful thread - never done Butane extraction before but just done it now on some tumbled weed and it works a treat.

I think the caffetiere idea is ingenious

Its going in the Uk420 favorites folder, can someone in the know just clear up the IPA bit for me, do you mean to say you filter the lager? Cool threads!!! keep it going grobag

IPA = IsoPropyl Alchohol

IPA = India Pale Ale

neither of the above is lager

Hi Grobag, excellent thread mate, easy to follow and good pics with it. Nice to know you can get more from your leaf/bud trim after it's been bubbled, and it doesn't cost a fortune.

Looking forward to future threads Grobag, making some good




Nick........

Here you go then mate, Link, next up will be jelly hash.

great technique u inspired me.
can i use something instead of the slik paper filter thing u got there such as the squeezer sheet that comes with bubblebags? or maybe a certain size of bubblebag? i can't find ay paper filter at my local shop. cheers

great thread grobag. im deffo gonna give it a try now, thanks

over to the jelly hash pages...............................

Sorry mate, I've only just spotted this question. The paper filters I use are just normal every-day coffee filters. You can buy them at any supermarket or grocery shop. They will be on the shelf next to the filter coffees. cheap as chips.

These are perfect - you don't need to get lab grade papers or anything as coffee filters are 5 micron filters anyway and that's ample. Anything finer and they take ages to drain and you'd want to filter through coffee filters first anyway.

Assuming one makes enough of this stuff for more than a few spliffs, is there an ideal way to store it without degradation. From what you mention in the method, I assume freezing it would be OK?

hope we meet again to smoke some oils mate

here is some fresh african rooi bart pure buds oil . Very tasty !

Check out this Link.



That looks lovely H4z3 mate, I'd like a taste of that. The Rooi Bart sounds interesting aswell, what's the story behind that one if you don't mind my asking?

Great looking oil.

well the one I tried it wasnt very good for a landrace , when smoked pure buds , so I turned it all into oil and bubblehash Half kilo went into the bags and through butane gas Well the smoke of the oil was , of course , very nice compared to the product I had before The cured oil was of the highest quality , totally pine-derived bee honey taste. I dont know if I will be growing rooi bart strains ( or any african swazi ) at the near future , but I will definetely try the malawi and durban poison

Have fun my friend !

hey my apologies for going a wee bit off topic, nice oil! shit makes me drool looking at it...

just curious do you guys have spots over in the UK? dont know what you might call it there, smoking with the knives on the top of the oven or better yet gas stove?

Hotknives, use to be with a glass milk bottle that had the bottom removed.Set light to a plastic handled knife once when trying to do hotknives in the grill of a flat top electric cooker!Luckily had a glass of water to hand ..

plastic

bone handle knives are the way to go

oh well

edit* come to think of it i did that myself once with platic handles and the knife fell into the gas element...

worst thing is when your too drunk and the red hot knives flick up and spot ya in the face... had some nasty burns from that heh

wow. you must have the patience of a saint is all i can say. i've been dabbling with the idea of making some bho from aronud a kilo of trim thats a bit crappy for bubbling. i did a little test with 1 can of gas and a small coffee pot to get the idea and went and got myself 3 cans of newport to have another go. its a real ball acher collecting it all up with the blade as most gathered on the curved sides of my pyrex lid. the end product is fine but the process is a killer. a few questions for you grobag.
1. what sort of yield does bho produce relative to bubbling? obviously losing the cell walls when oiling will lessen the weight but how much gram for gram does bho produce? obviously this figure will vary but in your opinion what is a reasonable ratio to expect?
2. apart from ipa is there another method of collecting it into a blob?
i thought about doing all the trim i have and keep evaporating in the same dish without removing the oil so i only have to scrape it up once. is that a bad idea?
3. when you say a plastic rap, what kind of plastic hard like a pop bottle or soft like a bag?
4. how may times is it practical to oil the same material?
cheers pal

Questions similar to iamafunkimumki,
I'm going to be water hashing an amount soon, and want to butane what's left.
Is there a decent return on pre waterhashed trim and bud? yours in anticipation, Jim

Can you be a little clearer by any chance, I can`t quite understand what you mean.

Burns

Alright Wazzup mate, I went through your thread in Dutch on your forum on making BHO. Nice results. I think however that maybe part of the reason that your quality was lower was not necessarily to do with your grinding the weed but rather the combination with the material filter you use. I think you'd get better results going through a finer filter again before the evaporation dish. Just a thought, then you could still use the quantities you want.

I just started another thread explaining the pros and cons of preparing trim before processing and it ties into this. Here's the Link to the thread.

Also, you can butane wash trim after bubbling, you just dry it out again first, that is what this thread shows - the first picture is of the trim drying after being bubbled.

Also check out the link in my sig - I you'll like some of the results and I explain my methods and reasons for them.

Happy hashing mate and good luck with the breeding.

Thanks Grobag I wouldn't have tried this if it hadnt been for your easy insruction and piccies
The end result..... wowee! If I could describe it, it would be a velvety chocolate hit Nothing like I've ever experienced before...saving it for weekends

Ms Powerband

hi and thanks very much, for this
easy to follow guide grobag mate.!!

gave it a go today and apart from a big ass
fuck up on my part, i think it went well.
while pouring the liquid from the coffee pot thru the filter
i managed to spill some of the trim out and into
the e-vap' dish!! tried to pic most ofit back out but not
all of it..
it came out quite dark and you can see a few bits init,
but i will do this again, and hope to get some better results..
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any idea why its so dark?? i know its a bit of a crap photo.
i thought it would be lighter in colour..
also what do u do with the left over trim??
once again thanks for the gr8 input..
s.b

well im back, and i've given it another go.
and it looks to of turned out well.
better than my 1st go anyway..
just need to find the best way of scraping
it all out of the dish. as thats the hardest part..

im smoking a j of it now...
it taste nice the after taste is like smoking
the trich's from your grinder. and its very sweet.
its nice licking my lips!! its very rushy too!!
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Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment.. sweet sticky goodness.

i cant thank you enough for this guide grobag!!
nice one mate!!

Hi SmOkEkYbOrG
Have you tried this method
Happy oiling

It looks alot lighter in colour than you last batch SmOkEkYbOrG. In my experience the lighter colour oil was stronger than the darker coloured oil.
Looks nice.

with all the people making bho im suprised uk420 isnt the reason for higher gas prices in the uk


theres some damn tasty goods on show there ...as soon as harvest is here im going to give this a go ..top stuff grobag

cheers madgiz, sounds interesting..
shame i cant get the right video on utube tho,
so i could see it in action..
nice one.



thanks mate.
my dark stuff is pretty weak next to my light stuff..
nice tip hardcoretoker.
thanks for the comment.




good luck with your batch vince mate..
s.b

nice thread growbag, gonna try and make some oil tonight.
problem is though, i bubbled some trim the other day and took it out to dry off so i could have a go at this BHO.
whilst drying it started to smell a bit damp, it is dry now and i want to oil it but i would like to know if its safe incase there is any mouldy bits in it!

is it safe to butane oil mouldy trim?

cheers for all your helpfull threads on all things hashy

i just tried to have a bash at this, its evaporating in the dish at the moment so il let you know the results in abit, hopefully some pics too

Late reply, but just stumbled on this thread - yeah, even using mouldy weed is cool with the BHO method, and in fact is used by many I know to rescue a li'l goodley summink from major bud-rot disasters. Just be sure to use a filter as fine as a paper coffee filter and the stuff comes out *pristine* <G!>

Again, late I know, but I HTH someone!

(been making BHO since way before I planted my first magic bean).

COMPOST IT!!! This is what I have always done with left-over pot plant matter, wheather for future weed grow use or for any of my other plantings (I didn't/don't always grow hydro/aero). I mean, the stuff is already quite well broken down, and has gotta contain shed-loads of the exact goodies your hungry green mammas are lusting after, eh? 'Swhat I figured !

Just a quick throw-in for those asking other ways to collect the oil together outa the evap dish!

1stly, towards the end of evap, tip the dish and prop it like that, so the majority of the oil collects in the 'corner', if you will - this should be easy to get out then.

For the remainder I bung my glass bowl into the freezer for 1/2 hour or so, then remove it and hold it up-turned over a steaming kettle, but *not too close!*, just long enough for the oil to be coated in a thin layer of vapour dew. Next I use a round tipped butter knife/small palette knife, and starting at the outer/upper edges of the bowl, gently let the blade scrape towards the centre/inner base of the bowl, using quick, repeated motions. The oil should just lift off the bowl and stick to the knife, leaving a small amount of *cold* water now in its place, discouraging the oil from sticking back to the glass! May take a little practice for some but it is essentially quite quick and easy ',;~}

Later!

Oh! P.s. BTW also etc. - used to use this method to clean out old and well-used glass hot-knife bottles during those 'desperate times' too !

fffffffffffffffff-ahk!

thank you grobag for this here thread...

i made some tonight, with bubbled trim. makes the bubble seem like throw away smoke. ..

Fu-kin BAH-trd

there was something else meaning to say, but its long gone

good method. thanks.

It worked then! Cool

Nice one chaps, good to see more people trying it. This thread was started to show that there are still goodies to be had even after you've bubbled the trim, but for more a detailed thread on the oilinng method check out my hippy crack thread.

As for collecting up the evaporated oil, a couple of drops of IPA dissolves any of the hard to get bits which you can re-pool together and scrape up again. Then after bunging it in the freezer and bringing it back to room temps, the IPA vaps back off. Just remember only to use a few drops, the minimal amount you can get away with.