You know the forms that bud buddies want signed etc, do you think a doctor, if they felt like it, could refuse to sign it and if they do this, what could a patient do?

i have no idea! the one thing that's put me off asking my gp to sign a BB form was that i don't want him to know i plan on taking drugs in case it influences what he'll prescribe me...i don't want my supply of valium & codeine to be cut off

i doubt there's anything you could do - it's up to the gp really and their views on medi-mj

4 doctors refused to sign my BB Forms.Gave up like talkin to a brick wall.They just said they wouldnt condown my drug use bla bla bla.But if you want some diazipam or tamazipan or other highly addictive drugs then no problem

But thats just my doc all are different to different people..

Iam not one for makin a fuss so after one argument i gave up..

Mine just refuses to discuss it at all - 'illegal drugs cannot be recommended, or good' is his view.

He won't entertain the forms either...

Oh yeah my morphine is wonderful I love not talking to my kids,my beautiful kids. I can get as much morphine as I like, my doctor knows I hate the stuff.

i know what you mean - i don't like the way diazepam makes me emotionless. i sort of go through the motions but i'm not there. i wait until later evening to take it coz of that, but by then i'm in bloody agony with cramps

What's an emotion? I seem to remember them...

My GP tells me the Evils of the Morphin ,Oxycontin (hilbilly Herion).& t5hat i should start easing off them but still gives me a repeat precription .That figures.

What's the difference between Doctors and God?

God doesn't think he's a doctor.

boom, boom, oldies but goldies

They're all arseholes in my experience. Keep changing 'til you find one you like.

Good Advice Hvy, and joke My Doctors are quite sympathetic to my needs, yet I have had to change quite a few times, to get a good one, ask any toking mates in the area, I am sure you'll find one...Good luck

winnie

Sorry to report the same attitude by my gp practice - their response is that their insurance company won't cover them if they have anything to do with signing the BB form, or some such excuse - it was definitely to do with insurance though.

Neither will my orthapaedic consultant sign my forms. It has been recommended that I change my consultant and see if that helps..... but there don't seem to be any guarantees - and I'm not convinced changing would result in anything but lots of hassle... I'm such a wimp when it comes to stuff like this.

One neurosurgen told me to stop the cannabis cause it was addictive. He had some students in the room at the time and they look at me gone out. I thought just shut your mouth cause he's an idiot. I like the saying "a fool remains undetected until they open their mouth" cause he certainly was one. I wonder if morphine is addictive hmmm.

hey ho - this is why i decided to grow my own and found this forum! it's just such a bastard that i'm now a criminal merely for trying to provide my own medication

I can't get access into my chemist, so my wife gets my morphine, but if I had to get it then I would be doing a proper legitimate drug deal in the streets

my GP was fine. She read the forms, listened to my comments and signed, she did state that she didnt want others in the practise to know as they were "a bit behind the times" and she is not a full partner. She wrote on it that she or the practise were not responsible for my cannabis use - and gave me them back, did it there and then.

Going back to see her on Monday to sound her out on her position regarding prescribing sativex on a named patient basis. Im expecting her to say she isnt so keen on this as she is then held responsible. I just hope I can explain to her my many years of cannabis use on and off and how it has helped me be more productive ...

all in all so far Id give her a 10/10. quiet, patient, thoughtful... (I think shes american - cant tell exactly where from by her accent though) although this score may drop if she isnt able to help with the sativex script.

So far it seems to be down to the local PCT and their opinions. CAnt find anything about what Ipswich PCT have/havent decided but had some good replies from MHRA ..

So pleased you got a good response daisy, and I really hope you get the sativex script....
winnie

After what Ive read here Im not all that optimistic - but you dont ask, you dont get.

Im feeling quite tearful about it (for myself and others who have been refused) which is unusual for me, cos I think something like sativex may just be what I need to medicate myself during the day safely and thus keep me at work. I have just started working three days a week in an office (temp basis) and my pain levels are back up to 7, my IBS is playing up something chronic again.. I'm starting to wonder if I could work long term in an office ever again..

the other day I was back to dreaming about pure cannabis extract injections. This only happens when Im REALLY worn down by it.

Im pretty sensitive to the fresh weed and seem to get stoned very easily on it. So I take the capsules before bed and let them work while Im asleep - trying to find better ways to use the weed on small doses, such as tincture, cooking etc

I feel sativex may be a good compromise - or at least worthwhile test.

I hope you get it daisy, I was going to go for it myself, till I realised that they have the drug alcohol in it
as I have got an allergic reaction to that substance... I have been more experimenting with eating my medication ..and my IBS tummy probs, have gone away, since my new diet, and as its so good I am reluctant to stop, now ( vegan style, with very little sugar) and caffeine free at the moment, I am having to check in the mirror to ensure it's me there.
Hope work becomes easier, not being able to take medication publicly, is a bind, as the quick smoke hit, is instantaneous, and is so easy to administer... not the healthiest way I know , needs must etc..

winnie

Ive spent the last two weeks staring at two spreadsheets of various dates in various formats and numbers matching them up with dates and numbers on a database. Suspect under the influence of weed this would be pretty impossible.


so far cannabis meds have had to be for evening recovery rather than prevention (mind you they do a bloody good job of that!)


excellent news about your change of diet and how you dont WANT to go back, this is such a great sign when your body starts saying "hey, do more of that.. I Like It!"

My doctor said he would do it last week but his mother became ill and I was left high and dry. I told him my harvest wasn't ready for two weeks and I needed CBD for the pain and my blue moonshine has none at the moment. It's such a frustrating tease. It's the only time I have every gone in asking for help cause they just keep telling me they can't do anything for me medicaly, so I just keep smiling at them, making them feel so small for thinking they are as powerful as God. My doctor has a lot of respect for me and is bewildered by my ability to put on a positive appearence, but the truth is I am in agony, but I don't believe I should take it out on others.

Haven't even tried with my GP, since in the past he's refused to refer me to a psychiatrist cos I was smoking herb. I have to lie about my cannabis use just to get treatment. I KNOW cannabis helps my condition better than any of the meds I'm taking. I know that since I've ceased to be self sufficient, and have thus been without, my condition has worsened. I know the past few weeks have seen me closer to a psychotic episode than at any time in the past 2 years (coincidentally the amount of time I've been growing and so had herb all the time). But the medical establishment refuses to recognise that cannabis (or some of the chemicals therein) act as an effective antipsychotic. Hell, what do I know, I've only experienced the effects first hand, how can that be reliable evidence

just spoken to my mum.. after several incidents of inability to breathe, collapsing, low blood pressure and ongoing rheumatoid arthritis - thankfully all blood test result came back normal - however the attitude of the GP seems to be "youre on painkillers for the rest of your life, get used to it"
not one offer of any other available therapy such as acupuncture, massage, hydro or owt

Even worse, she was trying to get a GP to come and see her, she couldnt leave the house cos Dad was at work, she was breathless and in pain. GP said over the phone "you'll have to come to the surgery".. Mum explained she was having trouble even getting out the house and had no transport this time. GP said "Thats your problem night mine" and actually laughed apparently. Mum hung up. GP was there later that day with an attitude on her. She said "...and next time you'll have to get yourself in to the surgery, I'm not coming out to you. Dont call me out again"

now understand this, Mum is not one for calling the GP at the slightest thing, usually gets lifts to the GPs and always keeps her appointments.

I couldnt believe the attitude this GP took with Mum, and both me and my brother have suggested a letter to the practise manager, local MP and PCT manager. Usually Mum is first to kick up a fuss but her poor health has really knocked the venom out of her recently. Ive told her to contact the local PALS and pain management centre for advice and assistance to get some f**kin relief other than painkillers, and help with transport too.

gawd bless her though, she says my brother bought her some nurofen for emergency but she'll be buggered if she'll take em!! She has seen from her own family what damage it can do ... (Im the lucky one of the family by all accounts - how I dont have arthritis/rheumatism/diabetes is a miracle)

anyway, just mad as hell and venting a bit...

dads given her the odd back rub and she has really felt the relief but he is scared hell hurt her more - so I told her to get down the leisure centre and get some massage done - but shes scared she'll not be able to get back up again... Told her, theyre used it it and give you time to get yourself together a bit

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I did not get the sativex prescribed my gp did research it well and did request me to see her so she could explain .
As it is not licensed the Nhs Trust will not allow gps to prescribe it.
Not sure where we go from here, as on the one hand we are being told by the govt that it is available on a named pt basis and then we are told no we cannot prescribe it.

Still mustn't grumble.

could be worse we could be requesting a life saving drug , if people with cancer cannot get a drug prescribed to save their life what hope have we?

change your doctor and keep changing until you find one that will work with you. alot of their defensiveness is because they just don't understand canna and have no real interest in finding out. you want a doctor with an enquiring mind and an interest in medicine. they are out there but they are few and far between.
they don't like you switching practices 'cos it's money out of the kitty but it's your right if you feel you're not being looked after effectively.

My GP although a pain to actually get to see is very good regard cannabis, she even repeat prescribes my "normal meds" knowing full well i dont take them EVER, when i need to show the health police from the dSS.

If theres ever a question regard cannabis and its impact on any new illness/sympton she ALWAYS refers to me and the knowledge found here from the medi users.

I then report back and she takes it as read, as we have more knowledge on the subject than her, which is like a breathe of fresh air tbh a totally honest open doctor.

I've never asked her to sign any forms but she was ready to fight my corner in court, i'm hopeful she'll go far enough to prescribe sativex.

I think its down to the human being found within the GP as to their openness and honesty on the whole medi cannabis use, some seem tied like little gimps to big pharma, others like mine are more free thinking.

teabag - You could try what I'm doing and complain to your local Patient Advise and Liason Servics. You should at least be able to force the trust to explain the decision.

You're lucky sibs, I'm on the third in six months so far.

I knew you were having shyte but thats just plain fecking cruel, good luck lets hope you dont need a number four.

Already looking for four I'm but I'm working through the complaint procedure first. I might have an advantage as they were playing an advert for a local pub on a video/tv in the waiting room so they'll be wondering if I'm going to sue. Which I'm quite happy for them to think.

I'll not stop growing with or without sativex but it'll be as hard to say no as I can make it.