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Randalizer
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I use a fan on my lumatechs. They get quite warm (not hot) without it. Mostly the fan is just to dispel heat build up in the local area. Plus it helps keep air moving in me room. With the small fan the ballasts are just a wee bit warm

Thanks for dropping in wazzup! always glad to hear about more data on these beasties! thumbsup.gif

eta: The reason for the fan is that heat is the number one destroyer of ballasts!
Nausicca
QUOTE(whazzup @ Sep 22 2008, 10:06 PM) *
So far we see more than 20% more light


I dont really understand how that works, surely its the same power going to the same bulb?
Randalizer
Just a guess here ... If you read some of the earlier posts here by OT1, apparently the digital ballasts switch on and off more rapidly. This I think, would cause a higher lumen output as there is less time for the lamp to have it's output decay before the next on pulse.
Nausicca
£160 seems to be the going rate for a 600W Lumatek ballast, i need to get working then biggrin.gif
Randalizer
Do it! The news ones (purple) are veddy nice! They can take mh or hps. They also feature a circuit breaker switch so that if anything shorts, they switch off.

btw I just recently got an am/fm radio. I did a brief test and it seems like there is no noise. I need to reread the notes. we also get a lot of electronic noise from the trolly car electrical grid it seems. unsure.gif
Om
There is no radio interference with the new Lumatek ballast, I have the purple one which is kinda nice as it matches my eyes. As for the circuit breaker switch is it an internal one as mine only has the extra lumen switch for a boost in flower. They do get warm or hot but not as hot as the traditional ballasts. Nice in winter not so good in summer but as they are silent I can move it out of the grow room in summer and back in winter.

That is one major advantage with these ballasts is that they are quiet ph34r.gif
Owderb
QUOTE(Randalizer @ Sep 22 2008, 10:31 PM) *
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eta: The reason for the fan is that heat is the number one destroyer of ballasts!


You still shouldnt need to use a fan on lumateks, i can press my hand on mine and its only warm

And just as a matter of interest

About 2 years ago we did tests on the claims of 30% more light with digi ballasts

We used a good quality light tester, and we tested the ventronic, lumatek, and a maxibright compact ballast

And guess what........No difference, in fact the digi was down on the maxibright, not so much as you would notice

Our findings were that they are all about the same, so dont get conned into thinking you will get 30% extra light cos you dont

When i moved on to a digi ballast i should have got roughly 20-30% more yield if that was the case, but i didnt, just the same

They run more efficiently yes, and run a hell of a lot cooler, but more light?????????????

Owd
djay
Gotta say the super lume switch is a nice little feature specially if you want to squeeze out just a tad more light towards the end of flower

had mine over a year i think now and bought it direct as a test ballast as nobody had this purple one with the switch, and while its silent and you can see a marked increase in light when you put the switch to on i still have problems with some metal halide bulbs i.e the sunmaster 7200 kelvin ones which do flicker sometimes as obviosly the ballast is not totally tuned into those.

But apart from that as posted there fairly cool to the touch and you do get a nice soft start with them.

Me i love mine and wish i had the balls to go for a 600 but i don't think i could handle the heat and dont really have the height unless i scrogged.

Randalizer
QUOTE(Om @ Sep 23 2008, 12:25 AM) *
As for the circuit breaker switch is it an internal one as mine only has the extra lumen switch for a boost in flower.



Odd. see the pic included. I got a purple one without the extra lumen switch and an external circuit breaker. It's the ballast on top.

QUOTE(Owderb @ Sep 23 2008, 12:38 AM) *
You still shouldnt need to use a fan on lumateks, i can press my hand on mine and its only warm


I like the idea of my ballasts not even being warm. Ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure and all of that. In addition my ballasts sit high up on the wall on a shelf. It's a wee bit warmer up there AND my ballasts sit side by side. It may be overkill on caution but that is the beauty of having your own growroom. You can do what you want! thumbsup.gif
scraglor
QUOTE(whazzup @ Sep 23 2008, 09:30 AM) *
However, light output does not always mean par light output.


yes it does, PAR is ANY wavelength in the visible spectrum, it is a bullshit measurement to sell products to growers.

READ:

http://www.sunmastergrowlamps.com/SunmLightandPlants.html
scraglor
ah right, yeah i agree with you there, i've always wondered about that, always mention it when people decide they can run 400w lamps on 1000w ballasts too, but they often don't listen lol.gif
scraglor
well they depend on the energy of the collisions, so i guess it depends on how the extra power is supllied, i.e. how much of a voltage drop is caused by supplying the extra current to reach the new power level. dunno if this is 100% accurate, but basically the voltage across the arc determines the force of each collision between the electrons and vapour atoms, and the current obviously determines how many there of these and thus the brightness. but by supplying the extra current then the voltage across the arc will naturally drop (due to negative resistance, as opposed to rise as with ohms law) so the collisions will cause a smaller electron jump in the vapour atoms, means shorter wavelength, means colour shift. how much of a colour shift though i have no idea? a few nm a few hundred nm? dunno?
scraglor
couldn't tell you, i always thought there was a colour shift, but could be wrong.
Om
Hi Randalizer,

Your one I don't think is the latest one, it is more of a dark blue in the picture than purple which I have on the new one I purchased unless of course I have the predecessor to your one


QUOTE(Randalizer @ Sep 23 2008, 02:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Om @ Sep 23 2008, 12:25 AM) *
As for the circuit breaker switch is it an internal one as mine only has the extra lumen switch for a boost in flower.



Odd. see the pic included. I got a purple one without the extra lumen switch and an external circuit breaker. It's the ballast on top.
Randalizer
could be. I'm partially color blind (as most white males are to some degree). Thats fine by me as I have a very limited power supply at the moment for me room.

It really does look like a very dark purple to me. I can see some red in it compared to my other two.
scraglor
QUOTE(whazzup @ Sep 23 2008, 09:15 PM) *
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edit: followed your link, but I don't see anything about par being a bullshit term, other than that there is of course a difference in par light and what is really effective for plants.


that's what i meant really, i know it's a proper term, i just meant when it's used as a buzzword to sell envirolights and such with "!!!100% PAR RATING!!!"

will outperform hps as more light is turned to PAR bla bla bla

when really PAR on it's own is irrelevant
Om
QUOTE(Randalizer @ Sep 24 2008, 08:05 PM) *
could be. I'm partially color blind (as most white males are to some degree). Thats fine by me as I have a very limited power supply at the moment for me room.

It really does look like a very dark purple to me. I can see some red in it compared to my other two.


Maybe I am colour blind too that would explain the odd socks sometimes or it could be I get dressed in the dark.
KC
QUOTE(Owderb @ Sep 23 2008, 08:38 AM) *
They run more efficiently yes, and run a hell of a lot cooler, but more light?????????????

Owd


Not all coil ballasts run hot though, seems alot of digi owners only buy them because they think thats the only way of getting a cool ballast that doesn't buzz like feck. If they don't actually put out more useable light then i'd give them a miss until they are a decent price.
Although some of the leccy heads on here have said they are much nicer to the bulb due to not having such a high load on startup which can only be a good thing.


QUOTE(Om @ Sep 25 2008, 09:04 AM) *
Maybe I am colour blind too that would explain the odd socks sometimes or it could be I get dressed in the dark.


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scraglor
QUOTE(whazzup @ Sep 23 2008, 10:28 PM) *
Thanks, that's interesting! But does the wavelength really change or is the emitted wavelength typical for the agents used?



spectrum analyzers on rswww.com are going for about 700 quid! go on whazzup, take one for the team and splash the cash!

edit, that only goes into FM range, try 8000 pounds for an optical analyzer, pocket change surely lol.gif
scraglor
you can lease one for 100 pounds a month!

http://www.metrictest.com/product_info.jsp...20WALICS-0-Kit1

maybe if we all chip in a pound each!
Randalizer
methinks it's just cheaper to grow and experiment! thumbsup.gif as mentioned I am very happy with my ballasts and see no reason to change.
scraglor
yeah, but then you don't get new toys to play with!
choobasmoke
QUOTE
Digital Ballasts – The Definitive Test

We’ve heard it all about digital ballasts – from ridiculous performance claims to unachievable physics, there seems no end to the fanciful claims of some manufacturers. The list of so called experts who have added their 2p to the digital ballasts debate seems to grow by the day, so in search of some definitive answers we have decided to carry out some tests.

Background

In order to understand our test results, you first need to fully understand the mechanics of how a ballast and lamp work.

High Intensity Lamps such as the Sodium and Metal Halide lamps that are used in grow lights need a ballast to regulate the power supplied to them. Without a ballast to control the power to the lamp, it would simply draw massive amounts of power and instantly fail. This is why you need to match your 600 Watt Lamp with a 600 Watt Ballast – so that the right level of power is supplied to the lamp and that the lamp itself is not damaged.

HID Lamps have a band of operation at which they will perform to their optimum level, the gases within the lamp will ignite correctly (providing the intended colour of light) and no unnecessary damage is caused to the lamp. In a 600 Watt Sodium Lamp for example, this range is from 580-660 Watts. Any further power to the lamp and you risk damage and the colour rendition from the lamp will not be as intended. You may achieve higher overall light output from lamps that are overrun above this safe level, but it will be expensive both in terms of electricity used and the need to replace your lamps more often. It is therefore very important to provide consistent power to your lamp within the safe range of operation for that lamp.

How traditional (magnetic) ballasts work

You may have heard a traditional ballast referred to as “magnetic” or “core and coil”. This is because a traditional ballast regulates power to your lamps by means of a coiled wire around a metal core. This creates a magnetic field (exactly like an electro magnet) which restricts the power allowed to reach the lamp. In very basic terms, the ballast is designed to balance against the pull of the lamp so that the correct level of power ends up being supplied. This method has worked very well for a very long time, but there are a number of flaws in the design.

To accurately regulate the power to the lamp, the ballast is designed on the assumption that the input power will always be constant. In reality this is not the case. Everyone knows that UK mains power is supposed to be 240 Volts, but in truth this can range from between 215-260 Volts depending on your geographic location, the time of day or even how many lights you have on the same circuit. What this means is that your traditional ballast (which is designed to provide 600 Watts to your lamp when it has a constant supply of 240 Volts) will actually supply varying levels of power to your lamp depending on the incoming supply. This is bad for the lamp (as it will degrade faster) and is also bad for your plants as they could be missing out on valuable light.

Another drawback of magnetic ballasts is that over time they will become less and less efficient and supplying the right power to your lamp. They will draw more power (costing you more on your bill) and will not correctly regulate the power to your lamp (meaning that you may have to replace you lamps more frequently).

How digital (electronic) ballasts work

The purpose of an electronic ballast is exactly the same as a traditional ballast – to regulate the power to the lamp. The way in which it does this is very different though. Rather than pulling against the draw of the lamp, an electronic ballast regulates the power supplied to the lamp via circuitboards and microprocessors. In practice what this means is that they supply exactly the desired power to the lamp (in the case of the Lumatek ballasts exactly 600 Watts to a 600 Watt Lamp). There is no loss of efficiency over time either – a 5 year old Lumatek will still supply exactly 600 Watts to the lamp just as a new unit would as it will not lose efficiency over time like a magnetic ballast will. This means that your lamps will always provide the correct colour and will last longer thanks to consistent supply well within its safe range of operation.

Electronic ballasts are extremely efficient. In our tests, the Lumatek ballast “lost” very little power between the wall and the lamp. The Watts of electricity drawn at the wall for a Lumatek 600 Watt ballast is 634 Watts – meaning that just 34 Watts are lost between the wall and the lamp. On our magnetic ballast tests, much more power was being consumed (especially with the older ballast) and the electricity bills associated with using these units would have been considerably higher than the equivalent electronic unit. Typically, a brand new magnetic ballast supplying the exact same 600 Watts to the lamp would “lose” between 50-60 Watts between the wall and lamp in the form of heat, noise and vibration. This amount of ”lost” power increases as the magnetic ballast ages.

Electronic ballasts also compensate for fluctuations in the supply – so unlike the magnetic ballast where light output can vary depending on the incoming voltage, the Lumatek will stay consistent no matter what happens with the supply. Your lamp output will always remain the same no matter what time of day or where in the country you use your light.

Increased Lamp Efficiency

Digital ballasts aren’t just more efficient at regulating the power to the lamp – Lumatek claim that they also operate your lamps in a more efficient way than a magnetic ballast and actually achieve a higher lumen output per watt.

A traditional magnetic ballast turns your lamp on and off 50-60 times per second whilst a digital ballast turns your lamp on and off approx 40,000 times per second. Lumatek claim that this high frequency lighting excites the gases in the lamp more efficiently and produces more Lumens per watt. At 50-60 times per second the amount of power the ballast provides the lamp (lamp power) is directly proportional to the amount of light it produces i.e one magnetic ballast providing 600w to the lamp will produce exactly the same light output as another that provides 600w lamp power. This is not the case with the lumatek ballast. For the same lamp power provided to the lamp the Lumatek increases efficiency by approx 5%. Combined with the better power management this gives efficiency gains by the Lumatek in the 10-20% range over magnetics (depending on voltage). At the time of writing, we have not been able to independently verify this additional lamp efficiency data, but given that all of their other claims have stood up to our tests with regard to power management then we have very little reason to doubt that this is also true.

To see all of our test results in an easy to read and easy to understand table by downloading our datasheet pdf here. You will need Adobe Acrobat reader to view this document, the latest version of which can be downloaded from www.adobe.com


Can any sparks on here confirm any of this? Would probably (finally) swing it for me to upgrade if this is true, especially the running costs bit.
Randalizer
excellent post that confirms my experience using Lumatechs. The grow shop man who recommended these to me is going to always get my business! thumbsup.gif
scraglor
think that confirms our thoughts whazzup!

"HID Lamps have a band of operation at which they will perform to their optimum level, the gases within the lamp will ignite correctly (providing the intended colour of light) and no unnecessary damage is caused to the lamp. In a 600 Watt Sodium Lamp for example, this range is from 580-660 Watts. Any further power to the lamp and you risk damage and the colour rendition from the lamp will not be as intended"

i'd say a 20% increase although more than the limits set here are probably not so harsh on the lamp with the square wave put out from electronic gear, i'd think lumatek would have tested their ballast/lamp outputs with a spectrum analyzer anyway
scraglor
all of that is true, the difference in running costs will be about 0.3 pence per hour (at 10p per unit) without taking into account light output, which with a 5% increase works out to roughly 0.5 pence per hour..... basically it would take a very long time for the ballast to pay for itself with just power savings alone!

but take into account your lamp should last for a few extra grows, say on a normal magnetic ballast you replace every 6 months, with an electronic once a year, then you save between 20-50 ish quid a year depending on what lamps you use, so taking this into account they should pay for themselves pretty quickly.........

providing they don't break after the warranty runs out!!!

as for the loss of efficiency from magnetic ballasts over time, this can be reduced greatly with a pot of epoxy resin.

lumateks from what i've read do seem to be proving themselves in the reliability stakes though, and good customer service if they do break

if buying a new magnetic ballast i would go for a standard style magnetic ballast in a vented casing, compact types like maxibright ballasts run much hotter and are much more susceptable to failure and degradation
scraglor
well if the intensity of the wavelengths change in different proportions then the colour does change, as hid colour temp is correlated colour temp, as the term colour temp doesn't actually apply to hid's, it's the correlation of the different wavelengths spikes. if the relationship between these changes then the colour temp has shifted
scraglor
for example, the green line in fig.3 has higher peaks in the blue end of the spectrum but lower peaks in the red end of the spectrum, compared to the blue line, which is a colour shift towards the blue end of the spectrum when used with a pfo ballast instead of a blueline ballast (and the same for a magnetic ballast when compared to the pink line).

"As seen below in Table 3, in the case of the 10,000K Ushio lamp there seems to be some advantage to using the
PFO-HQI and Blueline ballasts over the conventional magnetic ballast. Interestingly, although there is not much
difference between the PFO and Blueline ballast based on Table 3, spectrally the PFO ballast shows higher output in
the lower end of the spectrum as well as higher peaks in the 525-575 nm region. The Blueline ballast tends to have a
higher increase in the 600-700 nm region."

also these tests are just showing the difference between magnetic and electronic ballasts, not for the difference for input power.
choobasmoke
QUOTE(scraglor @ Sep 25 2008, 09:51 PM) *
but take into account your lamp should last for a few extra grows, say on a normal magnetic ballast you replace every 6 months, with an electronic once a year, then you save between 20-50 ish quid a year depending on what lamps you use, so taking this into account they should pay for themselves pretty quickly.........


Hi Scraglor,

I can't post a link to the pdf that they refer to at the end of my earlier post as it's on a site that I'm not allowed to link to spliff.gif . It's that big shop that does catalogues wink.gif . If you can work it out (and its not that difficult), go to the lumatek page on their website and look at the pdf that you can download. If what they are saying is true, then the money savings are a lot higher than you are saying.

scraglor
well they've posted the power savings in your previous quote. the difference between magnetic and electronic is about 30w

this is easy to calculate. every 12 hours you save 30 x 12 = 360w/hrs

at 10p per unit this equals 3.6 pence per day

so therefore the difference in lamp life is the only real money saver, although 3.6p per day will eventually add up, it'd take years and years to pay for the extra initial outlay of an electronic ballast


the difference of 5% extra light for example a 400w lamp, you'd get the equivelant of 5% of 400w of extra power

this equals an extra 20W (Not an actual 20w of power, but the equivalent extra light 20w would bring if delivered to a magnetic ballast) well we've seen 30w is 3.6 pence per day, so two thirds of this is another 2.4p per day, so a total of 6 pence per day (or 0.5p per hour) so total saved from power savings and additional light output is just 6p per day... the only real saving is from lamp life.

i guess lamps may be usefull for longer than a year, but i wouldn't like to try it, the light output may be kept the same by an electronic ballast over time, but it requires more power as the lamp ages to do this, so this negates some of the savings here

an electronic ballast will still pay for the difference of the price of a magnetic ballast in a year or two though, but a magnetic ballast is likely to last MUCH longer than an electronic ballast and so it's an unlikely an electronic ballast will be more cost efficient overall.

basically if cost saving is your sole reason for buying an electronic ballast then i wouldn't bother, it wont save you any money in the long run.

e2a: and yeah, spam i get it i don't think it's against the rules just to mention their name! lol.gif
scraglor
hah, ok, i've just looked at that, and they claim a 600w new ballast uses over 700w!! i can tell you now that this isn't true for my ballast at least!! i have a 600w sunmaster ballast and it uses about 670w so i call bullshit, also they've convienently neglected to publish the wattage at the lamp!! outrageous!!! with a magnetic ballast the power at the lamp will change with input voltage, so they may be reading 722w at the wall, but this may equate to 670w at the lamp for all we know if it hasn't been measured!!

e2a: magnetic ballasts do use more power as they get older.. the iron core is made up from thins sheets of iron glued together, the magnetic forces and heat over time push and pull them apart and make them vibrate, this is why as they age they begin to buzz. the vibrations use up power and turn it into heat, which is of course lost power... this can be cured by effectively re-glueing the core by giving it a coat of epoxy resin, hence my earlier comment

e2a: again, just to add, they're claiming a 4 year old ballast puts out 200w of heat!! think how hot a 1k heater gets, this is bollox
Randalizer
Thanks wazzup! thumbsup.gif

I like how the lumatek has a seemingly smoother graph. That means the electronics are controlling the output of the ballast very precisely.

hugz his electronically controlled ballasts

eta: even if my ballasts failed after 3 years, I would still keep buying (or having rebuilt) lumatek's. To have that degree of control over the output of your ballasts means much less variables involved when you are field testing different environmental parameters in order to achieve the outputs in you're garden that you are looking for.
scraglor
what's that graph actually measuring? PAR?
Randalizer
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Any results from your testing yet wazzup?
Randalizer
QUOTE (whazzup @ Dec 16 2008, 04:10 PM) *
as you can see from the beginning of the graph there is still a short peak when switching on (the complete peak is not shown due to the slow sampling rate), but not enough to trip a 16A B standard household fuse. Do use contactors.



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Interesting. I have 3 X 120V, 600W lumateks. They are all plugged into a relay rated at 15A. The full load of all 3 ballasts. It's been running over a month now with no issues. The fact that our AC averages 115V to 117V may have something to do with it and/or the relay could be conservatively rated.

gooood ballasts!
scraglor
should be pulling around 5.2A each, so only 15.6A total, so your relay should be ok. the relay will be rated for x number of operations at 15A by pulling more amps through you just reduce the life of the relay, unless it's being exposed to harsh switching conditions such as heavy inductive or capacitive loads, which an e'ballast is neither. although it has light capacitance and inductance.
Randalizer
thanks scraglor. thumbsup.gif
Logik
Edit;

since reading OT1's post about radio inteferenc 2 years ago, has this been sorted ?
Randalizer
yes
get-r-done!!
couldnt get head round it so i got one will let u know how i got on
Randalizer
Cool! thumbsup.gif

I thought I would mention news about a new ballast on the market here in the US. It's called NextGen made by the scraglors fav enviironmental control company (CAP wink1.gif ). I bought a 400W HPS/MH ballast that takes 90 to 240V. Weighing in at 4.25 pounds. Comes with a hanging bracket and 3 connections for 3 different kinds of lamp/socket cord sets. $190 US

Almost forgot to mention that it has a 5 year warranty like the lumateks.
scraglor
dam, if we still had 2$ to the pound, that'd be pretty good, they'll retail for probably 200 quid over here doh.gif
Randalizer
Sometimes you're the bug. Sometimes you're the windshield. wink1.gif

So the new ballast is exceptionally quiet for having two fans in it. Just slightly warm. Lamp seems to be running fine on it's first day with a 400W Hortilux Daylight Blue MH. Here I have the ballast mounted on a board with my electrical.

The cords are on the right in the 2nd picture. You can also see a green status LED light. There is also a red LED and the two help with system diagnostics.
Randalizer
.:!!!FAILURE REPORT!!!:.


The New NeXtGen 400W HPS/MH Ballast



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Well checked on my room later today and say that my new spangly tent was a bit dimmer than usual. The 400 W MH wasn't on! shock.gif fear.gif shock.gif This is after being on for only two weeks! censored.gif

Since I checked yesterday it's only been about a day off and since there are fluro tubes (mums, & veg) on the same timer I'm not worried about the vegging girls flowering right away.

The diagnostic lights suggested a few things which I tried but still nada. I'm taking it to the shop tomorrow and insisting they give me a replacement! gunsmilie.gif Keep you all posted. yes.gif If it fails again I'm going back to a Lumatek! thumbsup.gif
Randalizer
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Sorry folks, false alarm. Sort of. Luckily the ballast is good. The lamp blew. After two weeks of use. 34.gif I talked to my shop again and again they recommended (after assuring me they would replace the lamp) that I season the lamp (let it burn for 72 hours before using as normal). Since it's my veg tent, I'm going to let it run for 3 days, then go back to my standard 20/4 schedule.

I'll keep y'all posted.

Man I need a bong rip! smoke.gif
potsmoker93
QUOTE (Randalizer @ May 2 2009, 01:58 AM) *
blushing.gif sweatdrop.gif blushing.gif


Sorry folks, false alarm. Sort of. Luckily the ballast is good. The lamp blew. After two weeks of use. 34.gif I talked to my shop again and again they recommended (after assuring me they would replace the lamp) that I season the lamp (let it burn for 72 hours before using as normal). Since it's my veg tent, I'm going to let it run for 3 days, then go back to my standard 20/4 schedule.

I'll keep y'all posted.

Man I need a bong rip! smoke.gif


Any updates on this matey, looking at buying a couple of decent 1000w ballasts and would like the best lumen output and also very cool to enable more lumen output instead of wasting electric on cooling ballast.

Randalizer
so far so good with the nextGen. I seasoned the 2nd lamp and it is over 3-4 weeks now without a hiccup. I'll get to my notes later today and pull up some exact info. wink1.gif
Randalizer
right.

So the new 400W MH lamp on the NextGen ballast is 23 days old and purring nicely. Even better! w00t.gif My shop will let me upgrade my 400W NextGen to a switchable 400/600W ballast (handles either MH or HPS) for another 20$. yahoo.gif The great thing is, that I can now season my 600W MH that I use in me flower room, in the veg tent. Which means I don't have to dismantle my rig in my flower room in order to season a lamp. yahoo.gif
Randalizer
QUOTE (potsmoker93 @ May 23 2009, 04:54 AM) *
looking at buying a couple of decent 1000w ballasts and would like the best lumen output and also very cool to enable more lumen output instead of wasting electric on cooling ballast.



The NextGens seem nice. Very quiet, very small, very light. Can accept variable voltages (90V-260V) and have the same warranty as a Lumatek. They have 1Ks. yes.gif
dm@n
I have just picked up a Lightwave 600w Digital Ballast, i did want a lumatek but could only get the lightwave locally.

Click to view attachment

It has now been running on 12/12 for 2 weeks with no problems using a grolux dual spectrum bulb.

I have just upgraded from a BAL 600w digi (ballast and reflector in one), to a mini gro star and the lightwave, all i can say is the difference is amazing.

I will update if i have any problems with it. stoned.gif
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