Many arthritis suffers report that the application of a topical application to arthritic joints, twice a day aids with pain relief and reduces inflamation


Cannabis Cream

Required

500ml olive oil
75 grams of beeswax
50 grams of cannabis trim leaves
1 Litre of water


Ideally the cream should be made in a slow cooker, alternatively a saucepan can be used, however, simmer only, DO NOT boil

Add the oil, trim and water together in your pan or slow cooker

Simmer for 4 hours, stirring every 30 minutes or so

After 4 hours, allow to cool

Pour contents of the pan/slow cooker through a sieve into a clean bowl or plastic container. press the cannabis trim with the back of a spoon to force out as much oil as possible from the trim, discard trim

Place the water and oil solution into the coldest part of the fridge, after 24 to 48 hours (if your fridge is at the correct temperature) the olive oil will solidify, this will allow you to seperate the water from the oil, discard water

Alternatively, the oil and water mix can be placed in the freezer

You should now be left with a slightly green olive oil in solid form

Place oil into a saucepan and gently heat (simmer only) DO NOT boil

Add the beeswax (small pieces of wax disolve quicker than one big piece), keep stirring until all the wax has disolved

Pour into suitable containers, wide necked jars or margerine tubs are best, and allow to cool

Application of the cream twice a day (morning and evening) seems to produce the most favourable results

A few drops of essential oil of lavender can be added with the beeswax if you wish for a less 'canna' aroma

Thank you Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Just wondered if anyone has done any research on the different strains used in the preparation of the cream? When I saw MJ last year, she shared the above recipe with me and I have been making the cream for my mother who suffers, painfully, from arthritis.

I have made both indi dom versions, and sat versions and she definately prefers the sat version, though she does prefer the smell of the sat cream, too, and I occasionally get the feeling that she is using the cream to humour me. Anyway, just an enquiry, be good to know the strains that work best.

Thanks for sharing the recipe.. they can't bust information yet.

U

nice one danzig, i'll have to try it for my ma's pal.....


i hope you dont mind,i have a question and a related observation...


do you know how much(if any), oil do you lose from the 500ml after sieving ??

i dont know if it's the same with oil, but when i make my butter,
i soak the leaves first in the water then add the butter
because the leaf is soaked with water first, i've found i get more butter with the same(if not stronger hit)than when i added the butter without soaking first...

that's an interesting observation U, i hadn't thought about that.....

We have never had enough sativa for a full trial, as mentioned in the thread, if you add a few drops of essential lavender oil to the process the aroma of the end result is alot more pleasing, but it is down to personal choice

NOTE

Note of caution tho' laveder should not be used in you suffer from epilepsy and the cream should not be applied to open sores or wounds

Some people prefer to use as a massage oil, in which case do not add the beeswax

Also for longevity, keep it in the fridge if possible

Our latest batch uses hemp seed oil instead of olive oil, too early to tell if this is an improvement



Why not make her a batch without any canna in it? aka a placebo



The harder you press, the more oil you gain, also pouring boiling water from a kettle over the oil and repressing helps to gain more, between 10 and 20% of the oil is retained in the trim



This certainly enables more oil to be extracted from the trim, so the recovery rate is greater, however we have found that using this method seems to make the oil less effective, there may be essential oils in the trim that make the cream more effective as a topical application, and the essential oils may be extracted more effectively by adding the oil and water together without pre-soaking the trim

I just wish we had the resources to do more studies

Fantastic information that is Danzig.

I have a question tho, my mum has arthritis and I did mention creams to her, as she is reluctant to use canabis as a daily help as she really relies on driving herself around and worries that she would be impaired to drive . So I suggested the cream and she said that she was worried it gets absorbed into the bloodstream and she would fail an intoxication test if she got pulled, or was involved in an accident or something similar.

So basically my question is whether the creams act as a localised form of pain relief or if it does in fact get you 'high'?

EO

All localised and no chance of getting high,

Well informative and good info ,as I am getting more athretic in my spine now, so I am going to try the cream.

Good Info Danzig

winstoned

Hi Jeff...

thanks for the recipes!

Been looking at slow cookers & the thermostat controls keep the temperature between 110 and 190 degrees, is that ok? I thought it may be a little 'hot' for THC?

any guidance welcomed!


dikki

a little bit of info I found that might be of interest, in Shulgin's Pihkal TMA entry strangly enough.

sounds yummy - dunno what rue smells like - but rosemary - wow, sunday lunch or what!?

I like the idea of a nice rub down with cannabis oil/cream. I made a chamomile foot goo once with chamomile and petroleum jelly.

Fantastic Danzig -I'm gonna make some up for my Gran. She's had arthritis for as long as I can remember.
Any other non - intoxicating recipes? And what is the best way to give seeds or to help Bud Buddies/THC4MS financially? Those guys are the true heroes in these circles.

Let us know how it works out





Intoxication is just a matter of dose





You can find details of how to donate on our website, or pm me

I know I've said this before but, without the support from members of UK420, BB would not be able to help all the people it does, so thanks from all at BB

True, but poultices are another method. Plenty history of use.

Hey there, this has been very interesting for me this read

What would happen if I for instance used 100g of outdoor buds? which are not as potent as nug but infinately times more potent than trim......

Would the cream just be alot more benefficial or would it not make much difference etc?

thanks

PS, would outdoor buds be acceptable to the bud buddies? I would like to donate some next year if possible

cheers

hi jeff

dunno if im running over old ground here but have you put up on the site a guide to make those tablets people use ????

im most intrested as missus peppi suffers with period pains but she is a hell of a lot better now she has had a laparoscamy (nice spelling ) for the endometreosis we visited you about some time back now she only has normal period pain thankfully i know that sounds strange but normal period pain is much better than the endo pain coz as you know it drove her to ........... ???????


peppi

Always wanted to know how to make this, thanks for the recipe

Gonnaa try it for muscular aches and pains, and see if my skin condition improves

If you have the buds to spare then it could be worthwhile to make a batch of cream with them, make a batch and report back , that's what Bud Buddies and 420 is all about, experimenting, evaluating and if it works, then share the knowledge





The process for the capsules is similar to the process for the cream, extractor hash is used instead of trim/bud tho'

Queen Victoria used cannabis for period pain

cheers jeff

the only bit a cannot get me head round is ....

1 where to obtain the empty caps from

2 how you get it into the capsule without it goin everywhere (i was thinking along the lines of a pipette or syringe

i dont have a iceolator but use the ice extraction method to get hash from my trim would this work the same

im assuming there is some type of steeping or slow cooking of the hash and oils then allowing it to cool then into the capsules ill give it a go soon as i have some trim ive been doing it recently by emptying out lemsip or similar caps then grinding bud as small as possible then just putting neat weed into the caps she has had some relief from these but it would be better if i could dissolve it firstly in a oil (olive or hemp) then adding this mix to the caps

thank you for your help and time !!!!


peppi

We struggled to, but found a supplier but we have to get them in quantities of 5,000 and they ain't cheap, plus we have to pay VAT on them !





Pipette is our approach, very labour intensive



Yes

and answer my pm !!!!!!!!!!!

hi jeff

i have pm,ed you twice hopefully you have got one of them


peppi

A little question again...

Using olive oil - does this not make the user of the cream greasy as can be? slimey and not very pleasant?

I mean petroleum jelly is slimey as is most creams ie E45 etc, but surely olive oil would linger on the skin and not dissolve in like most creams........?

Is there a substance that is in raw cream form, you could mix in butane or ISO oil? would that not be a better idea?

just a thought, in no way trying to diss this cream, just trying to upgrade it!

cheers

BB used olive oil but switched to Hemp oil a while ago, hemp oil seems more effective as it is more easily absorbed into the skin, olive oil is not ideal but it is easily available

I have wanted to try a batch using tea tree oil, but again that is very expensive

It may well work with oil extracted via butane or alcohol, however the risk of explosion in using butane and alcohol is not worth the effort in my book, Bud Buddies is about helping people, we aren't going take the risk of making new members by putting them in a situation where they can blow themselves up



ps, the cream also seems effective in treating psoriasis and eczema

If you happen to have a crystal sieving screen or just a pollenator grinder, can you do something with the crystals to make yourself a cream, like skip the 'extraction' stages or something similar?

Thanks for the recipe on this one. We've made a batch up using 500 ml of the olive oil, 75grms of beeswax and 9grms of what I hope is fairly potent bud which looks to have come out well so far.
It was fairly easy to follow the recipe ( I'm a complete noncook) I did have to freeze it to separate the oil from the water as our fridge wasn't cold enough to set the oil. That turned out good though cus it made it simple to split after and very clean too.
We took a few pics once it was out the freezer which may help anyone thinking of having a go,
First pic shows the oil in the pan once it was peeled away from the ice.
Pic 2 is the oil as its started to heat up with the beeswax ready to be chopped and go in. It also shows the slow cooker that made trying it possible. £9.99 at argos set it on auto and stir every half hour is whats worked with the bud and it simmered it lovely with little work involved I thoroughly approved of this one.
pic 3 is the oil/bud/beeswax just after its been poured and the final pic taken about 20 mins later was it pretty much set.
It does seem a bit greasy but it looks like it will go a long way. Obviously its too early to tell of its efficacy, that may be a while yet just wanted to say thanks for the recipe really and share a few pics for now.

... oh, sorry, thought that was something else, byeeeeeeeeeeee

now thats some yummy lookin cream

Hi All,

I made a massage oil for my Mum's arthritis, which was 50% hemp oil and 50% grape seed oil.

I used an indica to make it but she said it was very good for muscular pain but did not help the arthritis much.

I guess I am going to have to try a mostly sativa strain or maybe the chemicals do not penetrate deep enough and it needs to be made into an form that can be eaten?

Oni, I have yet to find a Strain that could do anything for my Arthritis. For me Ganja is great at reducing muscle spasm, but as far as Arthritic or Neuro pains are concerned, not much good unless alongside conventional analgesics, which it amplifies greatly, thus allowing a reduced and consequently safer dose to be used.
Its a very individual thing, the human response to Cannabis.

Emu oil seems better. Our cream hardly touches my partners wrist where he's damaged it in the past but we bought some emu oil as it contains much the same acids as canna resin does and passes through the skin too so it can get at the nerves underneath easier.(the only oil to do so).
It gives him instant pain relief and did the same for me last week when I burnt my thumb it literally took the pain away in seconds and I'd highly recommend peeps try it for arthritic pain.
We got ours online from the garden pharmacy for a tenner which is pretty good pricewise. The only complaint I've got is that I've had to ditch all my plans to add highgrade THC to it cus it doesn't need it.

Would love to know what peeps think on this if anyone does (or has) try it for their arthritus as I've got a feeling this may be a good one.

excellent thread!!
thanks for sharing.

Hope nobody minds me reviving this thread but I was wondering if you could use petroleum jelly/vaseline instead of beeswax? Also what sort os shops sell solid beeswax?

Thanks in advance,
Wendy
x

Not sure about the vaseline but we got our beeswax from here last year and it turned up timely enough.

Just to add I've tried mixing equal parts of rosemary, rue and canna in the standard cream and have had very good responses from peeps with arthritis and general aches and pains so far even being told its an improvement on the original.
Could be useful if you don't have a ton of weed handy and still want to knock some up.

I know this isn't for everyone, *but* if you want some very quick and powerful relief, wrap a bit of cling film around your finger, stick a blob of cream on the end of it, and shove it up your arse.

Its worked very quickly to get rid of the abdomen pain, and I can feel the healing wave go into my legs and arms as I write this.

DIY suppository rulez ok....

Hiya Stu,

My wife is a fully qualified professional Herbalist and Hydro therapist who has her own practice. She makes her own herbal suppositories out of cocoa butter for vegetarians, vegans and people with allergies to other types of suppositories or the more regularly used Glycerine suppositories made out of Gelatine, Glycerol and water for patients that need or require them and have been referred to my wife by there GP. But the sad thing is, she said to me that there is no time release for the above two suppository ingredients or techniques I’m sorry. Also and most importantly, using Glycerine now and again is fine as a suppository as long as you have made your doctor aware of your intentions of what you plan to do and if it is safe to do in the first place, but using it regularly as a delivery system for THC will cause irritation to the bowel walls and can also cause inflammation of the bowel my wife’s medical book said, it also says that using Glycerine for suppositories will matt and knot any pubic hair it comes into contact with around your bum, OUCH is my thoughts there and personally I would leave well alone and make an appointment at the GP’s. We know THC wont have any serious effects on us short term, but I did not no any thing at all about the adverse effects of Glycerine has on your bowels and your insides and even bloody knots up pubic hair around your bum permanently and until I asked my wife about suppositories for this thread, I new nothing and I’m pretty shocked just how serious it could be, especially if your already really poorly and suffer from MS or Muscular Dystrophy like my mother in law does. I think it could be dangerous if you are already very poorly. But if your GP is happy for you to make your own THC laced suppositories and administer them your self to complement your doctors prescribed medicines, then go for it. If you are already poorly, get your doctors advice before trying any thing, you don’t want to add to an already bad situation. Take care and stay healthy folks.


Peace,
GG

Hiya Guy's,

My wife is a fully qualified professional Herbalist and Hydro therapist who has her own practice and she has just informed me that Devils Claw is also very good like Rosemary for pain relief. Herbs really are amazing and mixed with Sativa weed I’m not at all surprised he felt great pain relief having some fully matured Sativa mixed in with beneficial herbs whilst your actually in Mexico.

Peace,
GG

I know this is probably going to sound silly, I have got Multiple Sclerosis and I suffer alot with tight muscles from my toes to my waist well I was wondering do you think this might help and secondly does it smell of cannabis. xxxx

Hi

I have got lots of leaves that I want to use for the cream but what I want to know is does it have to be dry or can it be still be green ?