Help needed. I have seen posts somewhere about some strains(or is it just one?) that will go into flower regardless of fotoperiod. Can anybody point me in the right direction please? Or did i imagine it? If so, i think i need to get out more

cm

Joint Doctor's Lowryder is the only high-percentage autoflowering strain I know of.

Forgive the spelling but it's summat like aurora boreallis. Anything with boreallis will flower regardless of the photoperiod.

Come to think of it, it might be just boreallis on it's own

Use the search function, and see what you come up with...

tx for the replies geezers. anymore that ppl know of?

I thought that was just another name for Northern Lights?

I thought all ruderalis strains were auto flowering ?

Lowryder is the only actual strain which springs to mind ..

- Kafka

Ruderallis!!!

That's the one... Boreallis indeed

No wonder I thought it was Aurora. Yes you are right, I believe that is the correct name for northern lights... Doh!

I think "biddy early" (Magus Genetics) is auto

Na biddy early is Skunk x with Warlock; Warlock being indica dominant and your skunk is a sativa / indica cross ....

- Kafka

Ruderalis is ditch weed and has little or no thc so you want something that is crossed with a ruderalis. cannabis comes as c. sativa, c. indica and c. ruderalis. stativa and indica are blended for strength of stone etc and to shorten the flowering period. i think ruderalis is inbred to shorten flowering even more so i assume that autoflowering is a development of this principle.

G m8, i would delete them posts before someone in charge sees em

ditch weed?

i thought ruderalis is the hemp side of cannabis, good for fibre as that is what is mainly made up of.

ruderalis comes from russia and places like that afaik

going to look at the strain base......

I am guessing that the autoflowering plants would be ones that come from close to the equator where the light is near 12/12 and also they take ages to grow....not positive though.

that's what i understand as commercial fibre hemp, it grows wild all over the world. there is still an active programme in the usa to eliminate it from the roadside. if wrong i sit corrected (again)

nice one, i juss didn't get what you meant by ditch weed

been reading too many books by the septics i think

good point bud. hadnt really thought of it like that.

Commercial fibre hemp isn't ditch weed But ruderalis is classed as 'ditch weed' in my mind ! (on both levels of the word ditch - as in the side of the road and to drop something)

Commercial hemp plants are tall (on the assumption they'll get more fibre the larger the plant - why grow short plants ?). They have just been bred for all the opposite needs of a smoker needing a smoke.

- Kafka

Ditch weed is a generic term from the USA for naturalised escapes from farmed hemp, it can be tall or short dependent on the variety ie:- from seed production or fibre or dual purpose. It is high CBD low thc. All are Cannabis sativa hemp.

For hundreds of years wild hemp used to grow all over the south of England, to just north of the wash on the east side, but it never auto flowered and the wild hemp was indistinguishable from the cultivated hemp. In other words it was acclimated/adapted to our climate and seasonal variations.

Cannabis Sativa Ruderalis was classified in the nineteen twenties, it is a specific wild sub species from Russia and Siberia, with very high CBD very low thc. Depending on the area it comes from, pure Ruderalis flowers at 3 to 7 weeks from germination irrespective of daylight hours, tends to have single stem and single leaf blades and only grows 4 to 24 inches tall at maturity.

Ruderalis has been bred with with hemp in Russia so seed and fibre crops could be reliably produced north of 55 deg latitudes. Lots of recurrent selection has been done over many years, these lines are not Ruderalis but stabilised inbred selected lines that carry the auto flowering gene from Ruderalis.

In Canada and the USA they often misquote acclimated cultivated hemp escapes as Ruderalis, its not, ditch weed almost never has the auto flowering gene in the USA, if it did it would be a hybrid. Nowadays sometimes in Ca wild stands of hemp have the auto flowering gene, probably because of cross pollination with ruderalis hybrid drug cannabis varieties grown by gorilla growers or from farmers growing Russian derived seed production strains. This still does not make these plants ruderalis, none of them are, they are hybrids containing the auto flowering gene.

As far as I know ruderalis has never been used by western hemp breeders to cross with seed or fibre hemp strains as most hemp is grown well south of the 55 line and varieties that respond to the natural daylight pattern are much much more productive making full use of the season to grow and fruit..

Neville was the first to produce hybrid seed products for sale by crossing Ruderalis or a Ruderalis hybrid with drug strains. He made crosses with both drug quality Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Sativa var Indica. I suspect he did not use pure Ruderalis but a hemp x R hybrid.

A couple of the original lines he made are still available today from the Sensi seed bank. As Ruderalis Skunk and Ruderalis Indica.

Sagarmatha have a stabilised autofloweing variety called Stuporsonic, they are out of stock, new seed expected 05.

Much more work has been done in Canada probably the best product to date is Mighty Mite and its hybrids.

One thing is for sure once you have the auto flowering gene in a breeding line its impossible to eradicate.

There is some interesting reading here even if I tend to disagree with some of what they say, have a read and make your own mind up.