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Vlad (the impala)
having read the usual pidgin English online website for some new organic nutes, I noticed that one of the claims that they make for their product is that it is totally derived from plants, and contains no animal matter, and somehow hint that it is "healthier"......... now as a great devotee of that lovely sweet smelling nectar "Fish Mix", and long having had the stories of indian ganja growers burying a fish under their plants, and being used to the idea of blood, fish and bone as organic fertilisers of the highest order - what gives?.........is making your plants veggie a good move? - what advantages are there (if any) - and another point that doesn't compute is as long as basic hygiene is observed, why on earth should using animal products be dangerous - surely a plant is so far removed from an animal genetically, it just wouldn't pass from one to another.........any light anyone? 34.gif
Boojum
I reckon plants evolved on plant and animal based nutes, so to speak, cos wild plant 'fertilizer' is a mixture of dead plant matter, dead animals & animal waste broken down by bacteria. plants are no more 'designed' to be vegetarians than we are imho
nigfis
I wonder if it's more to do with the rape of our inshore waters for the ingredient 'fish'? unsure.gif
Dohped
what with cod becoming endangered and everything, maybe they are trying to lure people away from fish based ferts as they fear they may run out...... sad.gif
oldtimer1
Want a little Ot blah? lol.gif you are going to get it like it or not.

Taking aside man made artificial fertilisers, crudely speaking, every nutrient element initially came from the rock and gasses that form the planets crust. Once an element had been used by any plant, it is in a form that can be reused by plants endlessly. When higher life forms evolved they ate plants, carnivores ate herbivores that ate plants. Its the food chain so all of the living beings are made of plant derived nutrients.

You are made up of of elements that have been used and reused for millions of years by thousands of plants and animals that have lived and died before you. As they say you are what you eat.

The exception comes that over very recent times man has produced artificial fertilisers, so a small part of you will now be made of them rather than naturally derived nutrients.

It is known that plants grown in a natural environment actually select the nutrient elements they take up and will take ones that have been used before over newly available nutrients.

Plant derived nutrients are in a form where all of them are usable and will be used by plants, how quickly depends on how refined they are, ideally for organic purposes there would be some ready to use as plant derived chemical salts and some still part of organic matter to support the micro heard.

With nutrients derived higher up the food chain there are several possible problems some may be locked up with other things so they take a long time breaking down so the nutrients they contain are released slowly over a long period. The other problem is the higher up the food chain you go, ie the more generations you get from the plant source the more other contaminants are combined with them ie the pollutants created by human kind making making his pure chemical, build up through the generations.

It could be algae/seaweed, eaten by plankton, eaten by fish fry, eaten by small fish, eaten by Atlantic salmon, Some of this might make your fish fert and could contain some heavy metals, dioxins, the list goes on. But some will become fish meal and be fed to say cows as part of a compound feed so some of the pollutants build up every day for how ever long the cow lives and some are excreted and can also add up in the land in the manure. When its slaughtered you get byproducts that can be used as fertilisers dried blood and blood meal, hoof and horn, bone meal/flower.
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